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Software & Accessories / Re: Adobe Lightroom Mobile Version Official
« on: April 08, 2014, 12:57:23 PM »
This is why I have opted not to subscribe, and continue to use LR6 and PS CS6 (which do everything I need).
For now...
The next upgrade of Canon to say the 5D4 will require a Camera RAW upgrade that would likely only be available on the new CC platform regardless of whether or not they make LR a CC only subscription.

The majority of the features I use in LR and PS could be served with older versions but you fall into the trap of needing an update to support a filter or new device. I limped along with my 5D3 two years ago and I was running LR3 at the time and needed to upgrade to LR4 which at the time involved a new laptop (2k later). For months I converted files to DNG and then imported them - no tethered shooting, etc...

My point is, software has built in obsolescence and Adobe and Microsoft to name a few have adopted this model. If we want the new features we will need to pony up (or pirate) otherwise we can revert to our old perpetual licences or find open source variants.

Which is why many talented coders continue to hack around these scams so people have a choice.

It's a shame that greed is (and always has) driven the software corporate structure.  I'm all for developers being compensated but the software industry seems to be slowly following the incredibly flawed anti-piracy model of the RIAA/MPAA that intentionally burns everyone in a vain greedy attempt to lock people into spending tons of money for questionable value of products and services.

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Software & Accessories / Re: Adobe Lightroom Mobile Version Official
« on: April 08, 2014, 12:51:20 PM »
Thanks this is useful info. For travel this could work as a "shoot - edit - share" solution on the go. I suppose tethering is out of the question? That would seem like an Apple limitation. I hate the lack of connectivity on the iPad. It's like the perfect screen for tethered shooting but I can't use it!

My point exactly (about Apple's built-in limits), which is why I use other tablets with the same or better screens and more connectivity, etc.  Not to mention media card slots, etc.

And honestly, if I were going to spend $800 on a Apple tablet, that kind of money could likely be better spent on an ultralight touchscreen tablet/laptop hybrid which are getting so good that they are beginning to make more sense as a better alternative to an expensive limited tablet.  Check out the newest Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro for $1000 - $1200.  It's very nice and extremely versatile.  Compare that to the $800 Apple tablet that you still have to buy a keyboard cover for and all kinds of other gizmos to expand its limited storage and connectivity.

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Software & Accessories / Re: Adobe Lightroom Mobile Version Official
« on: April 08, 2014, 12:27:06 PM »
"I'm a techie but I don't do Apple.  It's too expensive for pretty hardware and a locked in ecosystem."

Ya, that locked-in ecosystem might be a solid reason the mobile app is limited to iOS at this time, doncha think? I rather doubt Adobe is going to stop there, iPad is a shrinking market, android and win8 tablets are storming the gates.

You're right, I don't think they will stop with Apple.  I just know they wouldn't be as successful starting this strategy if they tried it with the Android market initially.

"And now we have yet another example of how using Apple just sucks more money out of your wallet thanks to Adobe, Apple's long time buddy. "

Don't see that at all. Jobs littered the roadway, trying to stall Adobe market share - very much a love-hate relationship, an uneasy partnership at best. See "Flash".
Thomas Knoll remarked that they lost 2 million man hours of work when Apple decided Carbon wouldn't do 64bit.

Good point.  But Adobe software isn't Flash.  Totally different division.  Adobe Flash truly sucks and I actually applauded Jobs for telling it like it is and standing up to Adobe on this point.  I wish Flash had gone away years ago but there simply hasn't been a good enough alternative for universal web content yet.  Javascript is also a huge problem but yet again, until a decent alternative can replace it, Javascript will continue to exist and receive security updates into infinity.

It's another odd fact of the Apple media world that so many negatives about Apple fail to make headlines.  Many, many software companies were badly burned or put out of business by Apple's merciless App Store rules and arbitrary decisions about whether or not an app would be "allowed" to enter the sacred realm.  This is one of the reasons I hate Apple so much.  They not only abuse their consumer, they crucify their development community.  It borders on criminal how many developers have been burned by Apple with little or no explanation.  While hundreds of 'Fart Apps' would make it into the app store right away, truly productive apps that required hundreds of man hours to build would be summarily denied with no explanation putting some app developers out of business before they made a penny betting on Apple.

"Apple products are primarily designed to generate revenue for Apple, not provide user functionality as a primary function."

Commerce must work differently on your planet.
I don't understand your comment    ???

On my planet, the Apple ecosystem is designed around consumption of all things Apple using all Apple hardware through the Apple App Store, iTunes Store, Apple Online and Retail Stores, etc.  Or they receive other money from licensing and patents.  They directly or indirectly discourage or downright punish any attempt to get around that using other software, apps, services or devices.  If all else fails, they just sue the crap out of you for just about anything they can dream up.

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Software & Accessories / Re: Adobe Lightroom Mobile Version Official
« on: April 08, 2014, 12:03:40 PM »
...would seem to point towards Adobe planning to force everyone into some version of a subscription model.

I don't think Adobe has made a secret of their desire to do that...

All software companies want a subscription model and they always have since the beginning of time.

The only thing stopping "Software as a Service" in the past was limited connectivity.  Today, always-on high speed Internet and connectivity saturation ('The Cloud') has made all kinds of subscription based models feasible.  As much as I hate the idea, it will likely be a reality and unavoidable in the near future.  My concern is not the model itself but the inevitable lack of value for the consumer once most companies have subscriptions in place and then fail to provide quality and good ROI for the revenue stream they receive on a constant basis.  Most people fail to consider the long term cost of a subscription model and so the provider is able to mask their poor product/service/support behind a low monthly cost model.  Just look at how much you like your local cable provider to get a taste of this.  That is a good example of charge first (raise rates) and provide better value, service or ask permission later, if at all.

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Software & Accessories / Re: Adobe Lightroom Mobile Version Official
« on: April 08, 2014, 11:26:11 AM »
Um, not NO, but HELL NO.  Doesn't sync with non-CC Lightroom?  What an insult.
And yet again I laugh.  Chuckle.  Shake head.  No Android version.  Why?  Well, sorry to be so negative here but...   :(

[ALERT:  BEGIN RANT]

I'm a techie but I don't do Apple.  It's too expensive for pretty hardware and a locked in ecosystem.  The devices are great but Apple isn't.  And Apple stuff isn't as perfect as people who have never used it think because many who do use Apple stuff sugar coat the experience.  They refuse to admit any faults exist whatsoever, even when they do complain they immediately excuse the problem or decide the problem isn't significant.  (I've never quite understood this but Apple has always had the best Kool-Aid ever made.  They've got their market HOOKED!)

And now we have yet another example of how using Apple just sucks more money out of your wallet thanks to Adobe, Apple's long time buddy.  Yes, I know Adobe practices aren't technically Apple's doing but their ecosystem is becoming very similar.  And so Microsoft, Adobe, et al all see the Apple consumer as a spendthrift that will keep spending to get the maximum limited functionality that they crave with Apple products.  That's why they feel comfortable testing their subscription model on them first, in an ecosystem that is already designed to be a steady revenue stream.

Ironically for me, the iPad Air is the first iPad I have even considered plunking down $800 outrageous bucks for and so this new LR app got my attention.  Then I read all the built-in LR limitations and subscription details and I lost all interest.  Just like every other time, I learn that I will be forced to spend, spend, spend to get the functionality I want, if it is even possible.  Apple has so many roadblocks to productivity and versatility that I gave up years ago trying to use their products because I wasn't willing to conform to their narrow vision and be punished for trying to expand past it or work around it.

Apple products are primarily designed to generate revenue for Apple, not provide user functionality as a primary function.  Every single thing is built to drive you to stay online, buy Apple media content, apps and hardware accessories in a vain attempt to reach an unreachable goal of usability.  Unless your usage goal fits within the Apple model of limited use which includes consuming media content, buying apps, web surfing and checking email, you will be disappointed.  Even something as simple as setting up an iPad to sync a Google Calendar (instead of or in addition to the Apple Calendar) often results in problems.  Apple rarely admits to bugs and problems and often takes forever to admit or issue fixes.  Their support is disappointing, esp for what they charge for their products.

[END OF RANT]

I'll continue to support the alternative Nexus, Kindle and Nook tablets that offer more functionality, better and more versatile hardware and a more diverse and supportive ecosystem.  It's no wonder that Android overtook Apple years ago in market share.  Once ver 4 arrived, the Android OS really started to shine.

Again, I think there is a reason why there is no Android version designed like this.  It's on purpose people.

Sorry again for the RANT but it really irks me that I could get a lot of anything else (tablets, camera equipment, moving vehicles) that provide much more use for what Apple thinks I should spend for a simple tablet device.  And slowly Adobe is working on getting more of my wallet as well.  So I choose to vote with my wallet and say NO!  (And try to convince others to do the same.)  Grrrr!!

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Absolutely agree with you once you collapse it it's just add an extra weight but I prefer to have it always on, to be ready for any changes ;)

Sorry to keep bugging you but... when do you (ever?) use the dome?  Do you keep it with you during the shoot and attach/remove or do you just throw a handkerchief/napkin/bride's veil over it or something?   :D  Me, I've just always left the dome on and shot (almost straight) up at an angle.  (And let the poor flash suffer!)

I like the device.  It seems to work well.  My biggest complaint is the weight.  Wish it was lighter.  Seems like they could have made it with the same material and gone about half as thick with the same result.

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So how did this story end?  How did it go?  Any pictures to share??

mack and rusty....lot's of good advice!!   (rusty, do you think he should practice first or just wing it ;D)
LOL!  I'm not sure what Rusty wanted him to do, either, but it sounds like he thinks practice is overrated ;)

I'd like to know how it went, too, but as with some other posts like this, sometimes we hear back, sometimes not.

I feel sooo used !!   :'(   ;)

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uggg...maybe i should not reply to things when i haven't read all 11 pages...uggg...11 pages....I want to sue all of you now!.....
Strange, how does it show 11 pages for you?  It only shows 4 pages for me.   ???

Regardless of pages, it is a loooong thread.  I'm a little surprised that it is still on the leader board after all this time.  Just goes to show how attracted most people are to soap operas vs. geeky tech shows.   ;)

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George, I really like the behind the scenes photos in your About page - I haven't see that before and it really gives the customer a really good idea of what you actually do at the wedding.  It gives a human touch to your site, too.  Well done.

I am captivated by your images as I mentioned previously.  However, after I saw the comment above, I went and looked at the About page.  Wonderful!!  You have a beautiful wife, baby and family!  She appears to really rock that camera too!

I find it exciting that you are from another part of the world and yet you have so much in common with many others on this forum.  The camera that you are holding is also held by many of us in CR.  And if not that specific model, another model DSLR being used to achieve fulfilling images.  I think it's really great that we can all enjoy a common hobby/profession/craft and relate to on another so well because of it.  Nice.

Another question:  I see the Gary Fong Lightsphere on your flash but it seems to be used in an odd way.  I see it on the flash but without the top dome.  It's pointed straight up and the flash is also rotated 90 degrees.  What is your technique?  Do you turn the flash down to the side and bounce the flash off of adjacent side walls a lot?  I'm wondering if you have a favorite and proven system with this technique or if it's just a coincidence. 

Again, you do appear to be living the dream with your wife and partner as you enjoy your craft!  I'm very happy for you!

Thank you very much for your kind words "RustyTheGeek"
I like to bounce the light off whatever is possible and without top dome it's much easier and quicker to fold it when I don't need it. So I'm just folding it and it stays there in close position and not bothering me to much ;)

Thanks for the clarification.  So, I can see from your images that the light is indeed working for you.  I also have the same collapsible GF Lightsphere model.  I have always assumed that without the dome, the soft-sided part of the sphere would be somewhat useless since there is nothing in front of the flash emmitter to reflect light back into the semi-transparent sphere cone to achieve all-around light coverage.  I can see the advantage of having the dome removed for bouncing off of walls, ceilings, etc but once you are bouncing off a another large surface like that, what purpose does having the soft collapsible cone part of the GF Sphere serve?  Seems like at that point, it just adds weight since the light is projected straight out and away from everything behind the flash emitter.  Please understand that I'm not trying to argue or criticize, I'm genuinely curious.  Since I also own the same gizmo, I just want to understand a possibly better way to use it!  Thanks!    :)

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George, I really like the behind the scenes photos in your About page - I haven't see that before and it really gives the customer a really good idea of what you actually do at the wedding.  It gives a human touch to your site, too.  Well done.

I am captivated by your images as I mentioned previously.  However, after I saw the comment above, I went and looked at the About page.  Wonderful!!  You have a beautiful wife, baby and family!  She appears to really rock that camera too!

I find it exciting that you are from another part of the world and yet you have so much in common with many others on this forum.  The camera that you are holding is also held by many of us in CR.  And if not that specific model, another model DSLR being used to achieve fulfilling images.  I think it's really great that we can all enjoy a common hobby/profession/craft and relate to one another so well because of it.  Nice.

Another question:  I see the Gary Fong Lightsphere on your flash but it seems to be used in an odd way.  I see it on the flash but without the top dome.  It's pointed straight up and the flash is also rotated 90 degrees.  What is your technique?  Do you turn the flash down to the side and bounce the flash off of adjacent side walls a lot?  I'm wondering if you have a favorite and proven system with this technique or if it's just a coincidence. 

Again, you do appear to be living the dream with your wife and partner as you enjoy your craft!  I'm very happy for you!

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So how did this story end?  How did it go?  Any pictures to share??

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Please check out my work, I am only 18 but I try to be as professional as possible.

http://www.charlesbankephotography.com/


Dude, you are smokin' it, I wish I had been a quarter that good when I was 18, really nice work, and a generalist from my own heart. Keep it up.

++1, Well said!

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Great place to be.
Some really helpful info here.

Here is my little world, hope you will enjoy the view ))

www.isaacimage.com

Cheers
George


I like your journalistic story telling style with the wider angles, etc.  I see a lot of different venues and lighting challenges both indoor and outdoor.  I consider wedding photography to be one of the hardest jobs in photography.  No second chances and the photographer should be as unseen and unobtrusive as possible but still get the great shots and work miracles.  The intermixed B+W shots are great as well.  I love monochrome but it seems too trendy sometimes the way it is sometimes done these days.  These shots are more realistic IMHO.  In essence, I would hire you to do a wedding if I could.  Great job!!

One question:  I see a lot of other photographers in many of the shots.  Are those shots where you were just a guest or do a lot of your clients hire multiple photographers?

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Please check out my work, I am only 18 but I try to be as professional as possible.

http://www.charlesbankephotography.com/


Love it!  Great work!  It looks like you have some decent access to some of those sports events based on the vantage points.  Keep it up!!!   :D

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I totally agree especially when you say:

[Think a lot of the comments here are fuelled by "professionals" feeling a bit insecure about second shooters :P ]

There are few professional wedding photographers on this forum and few in this thread.  Rather, I think a lot of the comments here are fueled by people with a moral compass.  I'd trust a lawyer for legal guidance, but not for ethical guidance (and I wouldn't trust a law student for either!).

Frankly, your original post and subsequent comments (including the ones that are obvious backpedalling) say much about your sense of ethics.

I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt: I don't think he backpedaled so much, as filled-in more details that were missing in his OP.  My guess is that he thought he understood that he had rights, and was seeking a price.  After some discussion, he may have learned that his assumptions may not have been right.  He dealt with it.  Being wrong happens to every human every day.  The question is how you deal with it.

Not me!  I'm never wrong!  I'm simply mistaken sometimes.   ;D

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