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EOS Bodies / Re: More Talk of an October Announcement of a DSLR [CR1]
« on: September 27, 2014, 09:59:41 AM »
I am not satisfied by the rate of Canon's sensor improvement.  The way I see it the 70D II was a year late.  The 7D II is two years late.   A high MP camera is 3 years late. 

Every year my expectations for what a camera should do increase.  And every year Canon falls further and further behind. 

Couldn't have said it better. Me already considers a Sony 7s as well :-((((

The baby steps someone already mentioned here in comparison to others are really easily ignored. I guess the next 1Dx will give:
* - 120 all cross points AF
* - 3 double crossed in the center
* - A third generation of DUAL AF
* - finally 400k ISO
* - probably 4K @ 30 FPS just because it's their flagship DSLR
* - probably 28 MP or 24... who knows... :-(
* - Dual 6+ DIGICs + could be with another 5+ regular for focusing...

Make some shortened/crippled version of the above. and just swap the MPs for some 40 (and above) MPs. Put all that in another FASHION/STUDIO oriented body. And there you go... Again flagship divided in two bodies... :-(

Now having in mind that NIKON is ALSO falling down with no other but the same baby steps recently. I don't expect anything big.

What both can do is to come out with some MF body in 1 or 2 years.

Actually what I really believe is that the new CANON rumored mount is either:

1/ improved EF for video AF servo
2/ MF mount!!!

I am pretty sure since in the last year all the time there are rumors about a big MP, that it should come before September 2015. However is this good enough among such strong competition?

Now since in high PRO we have even most probably SONY any time soon (they are the only one missing from the whole MF DSLR story, aside from NIKON and CANON). Having in mind that they are the FIRST VENDOR of MF CMOS - they sold it quite well to almost everyone pushing aside CANON and NIKON from the leadership.

And I know that John (Jrista) will explain how they are the current leaders we have to face the fact that it is only due to the totaly amatuer segment of the market.

And as long as it is profitable their status quo would be eminent. However here comes the MILC age.... what then?


Here it is: THE CAT IS OUT!

According to latest rumors Canon is expected to announce a High Resolution DSLR in October 2015, so there are two possibility
#1. Canon may also do a development announcement of new product in October or
#2. If a new product is announced then it won’t ship for a long while, however Canon fans are now tired of waiting for Canon Megapixel Monster and as per unconfirmed reports a  huge number of Canon crowed already moved to purchase Sony A7R and Nikon D8XX series….Stay with us more coming


This pathetic whining is really getting boring..
Yep and your comments aren't any fun either ;-)
I am awaiting a NEW body that deserves my money aimed for an upgrade

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EOS Bodies / Re: More Talk of an October Announcement of a DSLR [CR1]
« on: September 26, 2014, 06:13:51 PM »
I am not satisfied by the rate of Canon's sensor improvement.  The way I see it the 70D II was a year late.  The 7D II is two years late.   A high MP camera is 3 years late. 

Every year my expectations for what a camera should do increase.  And every year Canon falls further and further behind. 

Couldn't have said it better. Me already considers a Sony 7s as well :-((((

The baby steps someone already mentioned here in comparison to others are really easily ignored. I guess the next 1Dx will give:
* - 120 all cross points AF
* - 3 double crossed in the center
* - A third generation of DUAL AF
* - finally 400k ISO
* - probably 4K @ 30 FPS just because it's their flagship DSLR
* - probably 28 MP or 24... who knows... :-(
* - Dual 6+ DIGICs + could be with another 5+ regular for focusing...

Make some shortened/crippled version of the above. and just swap the MPs for some 40 (and above) MPs. Put all that in another FASHION/STUDIO oriented body. And there you go... Again flagship divided in two bodies... :-(

Now having in mind that NIKON is ALSO falling down with no other but the same baby steps recently. I don't expect anything big.

What both can do is to come out with some MF body in 1 or 2 years.

Actually what I really believe is that the new CANON rumored mount is either:

1/ improved EF for video AF servo
2/ MF mount!!!

I am pretty sure since in the last year all the time there are rumors about a big MP, that it should come before September 2015. However is this good enough among such strong competition?

Now since in high PRO we have even most probably SONY any time soon (they are the only one missing from the whole MF DSLR story, aside from NIKON and CANON). Having in mind that they are the FIRST VENDOR of MF CMOS - they sold it quite well to almost everyone pushing aside CANON and NIKON from the leadership.

And I know that John (Jrista) will explain how they are the current leaders we have to face the fact that it is only due to the totaly amatuer segment of the market.

And as long as it is profitable their status quo would be eminent. However here comes the MILC age.... what then?

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EOS Bodies / Re: Just for Jrista: 2014 Market Data
« on: September 23, 2014, 05:28:26 PM »
Actually I am also interested in those numbers ;-)

I haven't read the whole 10 pages (yet). However I strongly believe that SONY is to eat quite some market from both NIKON and SONY and more likely from NIKON since they are not so much keen of the MILCs.

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EOS Bodies / Re: A New EOS Pro Body With 46mp Next Month? [CR1]
« on: September 23, 2014, 05:25:04 PM »
Some rumors from US and asian visitors: In the near and far next month there will be some new bodies announced. A mid priced competitor to the D810 with an much better AF system and a new sensor (no recycled one with a little bit more MP). Low light noise will be improved. And an high end body with superior features and an much higher price than the 1Dx. No details on exact improvements. But it will be an stellar successor to the 1Dx. Two Asians rumored that there will be an separation of the high end line, features like the current 1DX and another body, focussing on IQ.
And that there is an entry FF camera with an extended AF system in development, around 20MP, more AF points... maybe an 6D successor, focused on AF system, as the IQ is very good.
Other brands will release new technology too: Sony will get an big competitor in the next years. They realised that their lens line is a big weakness. New highend Sensors are "in the wild" testing, and will be released soon.  Nikon tries to pimp up the D7100.
I would love all those rumors to be true! And I am still awaiting that CANON MF camera (even though there isn't even a single rumor of  MF Glass from CANON)...

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EOS Bodies / Re: 7DII vs Samsung NX1
« on: September 15, 2014, 04:56:49 PM »
Not a big difference from everything else. So far the innovation is the servo af. Canon desperedly needs a new cmos tech. And perhaps we will see the stack/foveon like thing in the 1dx m2 april/october next year. Otherwise asidefrom the increase of the af cross points nothing really that does matter. Oh. And the price. It is still cheaper than 6d.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 7DII No Wifi
« on: September 15, 2014, 04:39:49 PM »
Cheaper than 6d. Ok. Why wi fi should have costed 800$?

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I have to admit I totally forgot the tele-photo dep. even though I am a proud owner of them L series representatives (read as "heavy") when I was thinking about MF.

When I read your post I was like sh#$t he is right!...

And I like saving a dollar whenever I can! So I saved one or two $ the white beauties. Got quite lucky on those dark risky deals.

However you know what makes me darn crazy every time when thinking about it:

Why is everyone in town producing those lovely GoPro like little cameras. Even HP!?!?!

And why such an important company like as CANON with all of its image and potential refuses to conquer this sweet pie?

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EOS Bodies / Re: New Sensor Tech in EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« on: September 10, 2014, 08:13:45 PM »
Yeah, right, I'm sure it's a completely different sensor that just happens to have the same resolution :->
Well how about that? And McDonalds and Korea both use red as primary colour ergo McDonalds is a communistic company? ;-)

As for 180 process - most probably YES. 1Dx after all is using it already.
Source?
FALSE ALARM.

Sorry my bad. In 3 am my memory seems to be out of order. I've just checked:

It's that damn SONIKON D800 and NOT 1Dx :-((((

They were in the same table and my imagination shifted the digits.... :-(

I guess everyone have already read it...

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I had an uber cool post somewhere here.... I've lost it. Darn tablets.... Need to fix my PC. :-(

Well never mind...

Quote
Q: What are the major growth areas in the image sensor business in 2014/5?

A: Along with general market growth in the volume segments, there is a trend towards physically larger sensors to improve all around performance. While the pixel-count war is not dead, the top mobile OEMS have seen the light. Smaller pixels matter, but are being seen as enablers for unique features rather than just a way to use more power and memory, while larger pixels are getting the credit they deserve for image quality.
An interview with the vice president of Aptina

NIKON and CANON are still quite quiet about it..... And NIKON either just broke with SONY... and SONY is not sharing any food... I mean MF SENSOR with NIKON.... or we are awaiting the big bang there....

As for CANON: I say they are not STUPID they just need time to prepare a few descent L glasses for MF.

What does it has to do with this topic: Nothing and everything.

Nothing - I am talking about tech and about no market shares...

Everything - the trend setter gets the market pie.  And the one is: PENTAX! MF with ISO of 200K. Not a bad idea.
unfortinatly Sensorgen haven't tested that awesome SONY MF CMOS... so we are quite away from understanding both its market and technology potential.

As for statistics.... WHY Amazon?!?!? I always have imagined you as prosumer. How many times have you bought a body there admit it?

Like 75% of this post's readers aren't B&H clients.... Come on! You don't have enough info to discuss it here.
Even e-bay stats might give you better understanding for the market leaders than Amazon.

And that is for the brave users.

ON the other hand are people like me who don't like their DSRL bodies without warranty.

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I would actually argue that besides competition from phones a lot of the reason why the compact market was in trouble was because competition had driven prices for basic compacts so low that profit margins were limited even if sales were high. You look back 15 years and pretty basic compacts by todays standards were selling for $400+.
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The future is I'd guess a move towards larger sensored more expensive compacts but I think its now much more of an uphill struggle as your having to user users back.

I don't really think so. Everyone carries a phone with them at all times. So, the convenience of having a phone that takes pictures was just too great for camera manufacturers to compete with.

The small sensors of compacts are frankly quite impressive, so I don't think most people using a phone as a camera would have changed their habits for a larger sensor (and a larger body) camera.
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All manufacturers, including Canon, have been embarrassingly slow in adapting to the new realities. People whine about esoteric issues like dynamic range, but here we are in 2014 and it sounds like the 7DII won't even have an integrated touch screen and wifi, much less an interface that allows users to access Photoshop's new Ipad app from their cameras, do some quick edits and post pictures straight from the camera.
The trend for bigger sensor is obvious already. And bigger sensor on MILC is not such a bad idea. That means NOT that big bodies at all.

The talk of a SONY powered (who else...!?!) CMOS MILC is already circulating the internet. And I'll be damned if I don't buy one of those one day when the technology is enough mature so devices are not slow as an old lady while the prices are as high as a NBA MVP.

The point is that the death of DSLR is inevitable in 10 years at most. That time is needed for tech to get smaller (e.g. autofocus mechanism), better (EVF with wider DR), and new concepts like DPAF to be invented. In 10 years MILC will come as a winner.

Give it 20 at most if the big players decide to get out every $ possible out of the MF DSLR class. You know first there will be 1.6 crop MF... then a true MF will appear. Someone even may dare to get  7x7 DSLR... but that aside from fashion don't see a true application anywhere else.... at all.

So what do you think of my daredreaming?

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Do you need a really high ISO?
« on: September 10, 2014, 04:16:52 PM »
One thing that hasn't changed is that size matters.  The low-light CMOS sensor you linked is FF...the 7DII/X won't be.

The affordable body for low-light shooting is called the 6D – you can buy one today at retailers everywhere!

Quite a good point:
Canon 6D vs Canon 70D: Noise Comparison (Low Light, High ISO) Video

The quite new 70D is an enormous step for CANON... is not that much for me.

Neuro, your comment is a strong point. We all know the well size DOES matter. However I started this topic with another intention. As I see my start wasn't that clear.

Need for ISO not as a general. Of course FF is better - MF the best. What I mean as next iteration of a model.
Let me rephrase: Will 7Dm2 finally jump over current CANON CMOS performance?

So far what we see recently is everything else but a good update over the under 50% QE. So far the statistics show that QE of about 55% a steady increase to be expected. Meanwhile some rivalry cameras can show off with QE of 67%.

I at least hope that the there will be some improvement over the older 7D  as there is between the 6D and 7S.

I know there are from different vendors, but I hope you get my point. ;-)

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Do you need a really high ISO?
« on: September 10, 2014, 02:53:50 PM »
Since the rumors of the 100 - 12 800 (native) ISO in 7D m2 I wonder why they don't pay enough attention?

I begin asking myself: Am I the only one that looks for an affordable body for low-light shooting?
I know Lenses should be faster. But lense is not everything. I say 3/4 the glass needs another quarter push from the body.

So if you remember: the fireflies perhaps about exactly a year ago there was this small discussion. And now have the things  changed?
Aside from my unchanged disappointment I ask you about it.

That way I might be able to reset my expectations...

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ROFL. I have no idea who writes those.... but the news there are brilliant!

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Don't feel bad, it took me almost five minutes to figure this out.  The dip***t who created this chart should be spanked IMO.  The natural tendency is to compare the rings against each other, which is impossible without a hand calculator.  Simple stacked bar graphs would have been much easier to compare visually.

I also would not place a lot of confidence in these projections as they sound overly optimistic.  Consider the source: a semiconductor company.   Something fishy in the fish market?  Perhaps.

You could be right. We'll see that. There are still billions of people NOT hooked on FB. And besides it all depends on the trend setters and at the moment the ONLY one I can think of is SONY. CANON IMO is already a follower in the trends business and a leader (not for long, I guess) in the sales.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5DIII dual cards
« on: September 10, 2014, 01:52:09 PM »
Hi Diko.
Cheaper alternate solution, ...
Cheers, Graham.
Will test it for sure. Thanks for the idea!

Cheers,
Diko.

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