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EOS Bodies / Re: Sony Sensors Coming to Canon DSLRs? [CR1]
« on: December 16, 2014, 06:29:57 PM »
One shouldn't expect Dual Pixel sensors manufactured by Sony. No way.
So probably Canon will manufacture most of their FF bodies with own, home-manufactured  sensors and use only Sony sensor for a special high quality (DR, high resolution) body. That makes a lot of sense because high resolution Dual Pixel FF sensor (being effectively 2 x 46 MPix sensor) would generate enormous stream of data  that would need processing not only for stills but also video (scaling, denoising etc.) and AF (dual pixel, CDAF).
.... You said it all by yourself:
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... would generate enormous stream of data  that would need processing not only for stills but also video...
That means that they would have to use DIGIC CPUs sensors with DPAF (CANON sensor tech). That means they can't be SONY.


They wouldn't even have to do that.  I don't think there's anything amazingly complex about dual-pixel from a design and fabrication point of view.  I'm pretty sure Sony would already be selling chips with DPAF capabilities if they didn't have to work around Canon's patents.
+1


I think you missed the point of this forum. It is called rumors for a reason. Wouldn't be much talk here if it only reported things written in stone. I think its interesting to hear peoples ideas and just maybe from time to time some Canon people will visit to see what we want them to improve.

No - I did not. Yes it is NOT a stone. Quite correct. And yet this rumor is old as Canon MF. I wonder when will be next speculation about the old rumor about it ;-)

As for Canon reading what is going on here on this forum... You must have been reading some of my previous post here. ;-)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Sony Sensors Coming to Canon DSLRs? [CR1]
« on: December 16, 2014, 06:46:49 AM »
I wonder why do from time to time CR begins to make storms out of nothing. I presume when the visitors stats begin to go down he brings an old topic just for the sake of a few tech geeks to comment around and say old crap in a new way.

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I think it would be a mistake for them to surrender chip design--both for Canon and for the users.  There needs to be MORE sensor competition--not less.
+1, totally agree! Canon just needs to actually compete on the larger format sensor front. I really hope they do next year...
I do agree as well. However they would need "a-pair-of-good-old-MF-L-lenses". And we have seen 0 patents so far.

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Check this guy out...
http://www.chipworks.com/en/technical-competitive-analysis/resources/blog/full-frame-dslr-cameras-canon-stays-the-course/?lang=en&Itemid=815

2 Years old article the outlines what we see today (Sony making sensors for Nikon, and now some of Canon) and points to tomorrow.

It's not economical these days for most companies to continue mfg their own silicon as with the fierce competition and constant upheaval of processes to stay competitive results in huge tool and die costs, which is what a CMOS sensor is, silicon. Global Foundaries, Samsung, Intel and others now dominate this market. Canon's 0.5 process is ancient, Canon knows this and will likely choose another fab to make their designs, or use someone else's designs but put their software or spin on the final result. I anticipate quantum leaps in Canon specs in the next 1-2 years as such. Look at what Canon did with Sony's 20MP sensor? 50 points better on the ISO processing with their DIGIC algorithms plus accurate color rendition and better UI.

Well, while true so far we know Canon IS using old-school 0.5 they are also employing new tech (although a later  than others, but definitely not bad) like DualPixel.

And I wonder how do you make a home-grown in-house tech go out to you competitors to produce it?
Or you just don't - and that makes you look like everybody else.


So in conclusion: Am I getting this wrong? Or CR Webmaster is just making non-sense?

I have received this information a few times over the years, but nothing has never come to fruition, so I’ve never lent much credence to it... It’s definitely possible, but I wouldn’t write it in stone yet
Why bother then writing now?

I leave it to you to judge on your own.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Another 50mp FF DSLR Mention [CR2]
« on: November 24, 2014, 12:59:48 PM »
PEOPLE!
It's far too early for a 5DMk4, Canon is not Nikon.

you know, a quick google would have told you how silly your post is.  5D was replaced in 3 years, 5dII in 3.5 years...

sept 2015 (next year) would be .. what? 3.5 years.
My my my! Is time passing by so fast?!?


BTW did anyone saw that coming?

Huge Sony sensor advance heralds amazing video features – 6K, and 1080p at up to 16,000fps

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Software & Accessories / Re: Adobe Lightroom 5.7 Now Available
« on: November 20, 2014, 03:29:25 PM »
I hope they fixed all performance issues they introduced in 5.6 for spot removal and selective brush.

1/ Those issues date quite back before that.

2/ Dream on. I doubt that they would be able to fix those with LR 6 possibly  (coming out final release in March 2015).


They have big issues performance wise, because they have written it in LUA and since then (according to wikipedia) 40% are still using it. They also use SLQlite in the backbone of the catalogue. In the beginning perhaps it was the perfect combination, but with time and all those cool features added things begin to get ugly.

It's time to completely re-write in a more suitable
 

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An F 2.8 lens is a 2.8 lens regardless of the sensor size, the amount of light it lets in doesn't change by changing the size of the sensor. This camera is equivalent to 24-200mm in 35mm terms and the only thing that is different is the depth of field.

Oh, just the DoF is different?  Well, that's ok then...I mean, it's not like DoF matters for pictures, or like photographers care about DoF or anything like that, right??  It's a smaller sensor, so is noise or anything like that different?  Or is that something else that doesn't matter?

If you say 8.8-73.3mm f/2.8, that's fine.  Saying it gives a field of view equivalent to 24-200mm on FF/35mm is fine.   Calling it 24-200mm f/2.8 is a lie, since f/number is focal length / iris diaphragm diameter.  Calling it equivalent to 24-200mm f/2.8 on FF/35mm is also a lie, the DoF for equivalent framing is different, which means they can't be equivalent.  It might be done commonly, but it's still a lie.  People exceed the posted speed limit all the time, it doesn't mean they're not breaking the law.

You couldn't hold it now, could you? :-)

Alas I saw it too late :-(

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EOS Bodies / Re: A Bit About the Modular DSLR Rumor
« on: November 09, 2014, 06:51:59 AM »
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- 64-bit processing picture (much higher performance that anything Canon has today)
...

Could you please elaborate on this....
The raw computing power of the hardware is higher (A8 processor vs Dual Digic 6)(I am comparing iPhone 6 to 7D Mk II). Apple are doing some things with images they don´t say but some things are official:
- Tone matching flash
- HDR photo
- HDR video
- Slo-mo video (120 fps or 240 fps)
- Time-lapse video
- Cinematic video stabilization
- Continuous autofocus video
- Take still photos while recording video
Some things are more speculative:
- Picture stabilization using motion coprocessor together with gyros and accelerometers
- Near realtime composites of 4 separate photos to decrease noise and increase sharpness

I would argue that the A8 is a better platform for further improvements in picture processing and it is easier for Apple to propagate these improvements with the normal system upgrades.

Added to that is the immense number of post editing software that runs on the phone...not much of that on Canon...

I tend to agree with your idea. However please note:

1/ 64 bit has nothing to do with that.
2/ 2 CPUs on the CANON are for one sole purpose: more fps.

Otherwise most people here and elsewhere will tell you that Smartphone shooting is a lame (not even amateur-level).

I on the other hand have a different more like your idea about those tiny little miracles.

Smartphones as they may (still) be in their infancy. I see a great new expression tool.

Soon the difference between Smartphones' BSI CMOS based cameras would be as different as the Full Frame to the Medium Format - almost unnoticeable for the regular human eye.

Will see ;-)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 7D Mark II - DXOMark Review
« on: November 06, 2014, 03:41:34 AM »
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I’m not sure I agree with them as far as the Sony A77 II being a more compelling option, especially when you consider lenses and other accessories

Well, actually they are evaluating the camera and not the complete set, you know! ;-)
This last sentence was really not very in favour of Canon.

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EOS Bodies / Re: A Bit About the Modular DSLR Rumor
« on: November 03, 2014, 11:43:37 AM »
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- 64-bit processing picture (much higher performance that anything Canon has today)
...

Could you please elaborate on this....

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EOS Bodies / Re: A Bit About the Modular DSLR Rumor
« on: November 02, 2014, 02:04:40 PM »
I think that this rumor is way to unclear for a CR2 level.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Modular DSLR Coming from Canon? [CR2]
« on: October 29, 2014, 12:14:41 PM »
Wow a CR2 sounds quite interesting in the sea of CR1 speculations..

What else could be modular?...
  • Lens mount
  • Sensor
  • Storage options (SSD?)
  • Camera body mount
  • Communication
  • Power options
  • Processor(s)
  • Auto focus system

These few sounds quite nice as options to me. I don't mind Canon leaving the marketing segmentation up to the customer. Especially when we are talking about Pro Level equipment. One can buy what one needs and is important in his area of shooting.

However again they seem to be trend followers. Modular cameras are existing for quite some time. In their endeavor to conquer Hollywood they are a little late. Hollywood is not what it was 25 years ago during the VHS era.

A modular DSLR on the other hand would be perfect. However in times of migrating to both Mirrorless and Medium Format unfortunately it might not bring a lot of sense as well. :-(

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EOS Bodies / Re: 4K Products Coming From Canon [CR2]
« on: October 24, 2014, 03:34:23 PM »
I am not sure why there are so many freak outs and threats about switching to another brand.
...
When canon releases them they will be a solid reliable product. THey may not have the most cutting edge features(that seems to be Canon of the past) but they will be reliable, solid, functional. Thats what i want out of a product i am using to make money.
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If i have constant camera errors i become and unreliable person to use no matter how good i could be.

I do my living with that too and honestly I have NO idea what-so-ever what PRO brand have you used before Canon. But I know the following for me:

I am in a need of upgrade. At the moment dollar-per-feature is not good enough with Canon for my needs. Even now as rumors I might get a new sensor offer and a video servo focus (that I don't need that much). A better ISO (probably - having in mind the stupid 4 year cycle of their sensor generations) an incremental increase is to be expected. 4k - hopefully and it is really pain in the ass to have to wait for every one competitor out there in the pro market to be before your own choosing of brand.

Now my competitors on the market can offer better service, because they use different brand. This of course leaves me without the option to stay topcat in my field.

And slowly I have to begin to miss my lead and stay behind and that is about image and name... For the moment I am the only to realize that. In beginning of next year I might jump ships because my competitors might find out as well.

My creativity suffers as well. I know that there are features I can test out... but will have to wait. And no - I won't rent - because these are tests of well known features that will soon or later be mine as well and I don't make money out of tests!

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EOS Bodies / Re: 4K Products Coming From Canon [CR2]
« on: October 24, 2014, 03:25:09 AM »
Just like this was the year of the lens? I'm no conspiracy theorist, but maybe spreading rumors is official Canon policy right now for trying to stop video guys from jumping ship.
yes of course it was: CZ and Sigma got great lenses for Canon out :))))

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Read into things much? The examples were chosen *because* most people have opinions on the subjects.

So....you voted for Obama, love hip hop and celebrate popular youth fashion?  You'll forgive me for assuming that someone posting these things on a forum that skews heavily toward wealthy, middle-aged/elderly American and European white men had a specific opinion in mind.

You are right that ignorance doesn't stop people from forming opinions but it really really should.

This will be my last on the subject, ...continue if you please.

I am "the decider" re. whom/what I  will forgive  ;)

In this case I will base the forgiveness on your obvious lack of situational awareness. You really, really should note that your ignorance re. my voting/music/fashion preferences has not "stopped" you from forming an assumptive opinion about same. ( FYI, your score was 33 1/3%, ...in my experience, this is a failing grade. )   :o
At least we now know who you voted for ROFL

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EOS Bodies / Re: Multilayer Sensors are Coming From Canon [CR2]
« on: October 12, 2014, 04:21:18 PM »
I'd jump to buy a camera that had a max ISO of 100 and 1 fp 10 seconds if it offered better resolution and DR.

Get a 7D Mark II and a Gigapan.  In 10 seconds, you can shoot something like a 9 shot panorama with a 5-shot bracket at each spot.  That should get you 16+stops of DR and 115 megapixels.
I would go with the 6D instead ;-)

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EOS Bodies / Re: High Megapixel Camera to Come in Two Variants? [CR1]
« on: October 10, 2014, 04:56:51 PM »
You guys completely misinterpret and misrepresent everything I've said about this subject. You lump me in with your run of the mill complainer who jumps from site to site bitching about anything and everything Canon. I've been very consistent in my complaint...and it's just one complaint: Canon's sensor IQ, particularly the quality of their read noise, but their overall IQ that, IMO, suffers because of poor DR which stems from extremely old (ancient, in the tech world) technology. Stop misrepresenting me and my words to the rest of the community.

Jrista, it's the avatar. ;-)



You are a run of the mill complainer, you want something that isn't available in Canon's range, and you want them to make it for you.
IMO he is making an informed complaining. That means he's quite well aware what the others are doing or intend to do in the near future. He is informed about trends, brands and and all sort of tech stuff. So is Neuro. Both create opinions and seem to be among the most acknowledged in this community.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't argue with them. But at least make a point out of it. ;-)

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