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Read into things much? The examples were chosen *because* most people have opinions on the subjects.

So....you voted for Obama, love hip hop and celebrate popular youth fashion?  You'll forgive me for assuming that someone posting these things on a forum that skews heavily toward wealthy, middle-aged/elderly American and European white men had a specific opinion in mind.

You are right that ignorance doesn't stop people from forming opinions but it really really should.

This will be my last on the subject, ...continue if you please.

I am "the decider" re. whom/what I  will forgive  ;)

In this case I will base the forgiveness on your obvious lack of situational awareness. You really, really should note that your ignorance re. my voting/music/fashion preferences has not "stopped" you from forming an assumptive opinion about same. ( FYI, your score was 33 1/3%, ...in my experience, this is a failing grade. )   :o
At least we now know who you voted for ROFL

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EOS Bodies / Re: Multilayer Sensors are Coming From Canon [CR2]
« on: October 12, 2014, 04:21:18 PM »
I'd jump to buy a camera that had a max ISO of 100 and 1 fp 10 seconds if it offered better resolution and DR.

Get a 7D Mark II and a Gigapan.  In 10 seconds, you can shoot something like a 9 shot panorama with a 5-shot bracket at each spot.  That should get you 16+stops of DR and 115 megapixels.
I would go with the 6D instead ;-)

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EOS Bodies / Re: High Megapixel Camera to Come in Two Variants? [CR1]
« on: October 10, 2014, 04:56:51 PM »
You guys completely misinterpret and misrepresent everything I've said about this subject. You lump me in with your run of the mill complainer who jumps from site to site bitching about anything and everything Canon. I've been very consistent in my complaint...and it's just one complaint: Canon's sensor IQ, particularly the quality of their read noise, but their overall IQ that, IMO, suffers because of poor DR which stems from extremely old (ancient, in the tech world) technology. Stop misrepresenting me and my words to the rest of the community.

Jrista, it's the avatar. ;-)



You are a run of the mill complainer, you want something that isn't available in Canon's range, and you want them to make it for you.
IMO he is making an informed complaining. That means he's quite well aware what the others are doing or intend to do in the near future. He is informed about trends, brands and and all sort of tech stuff. So is Neuro. Both create opinions and seem to be among the most acknowledged in this community.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't argue with them. But at least make a point out of it. ;-)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Multilayer Sensors are Coming From Canon [CR2]
« on: October 10, 2014, 12:27:37 PM »
Not the patent, not sure where that is. Here is a paper on the topic, though:

https://graphics.stanford.edu/papers/gordon-multibucket-jssc12.pdf

Mostly by Aptina engineers.
Nice one, but main goal should be to get all the 32 bit of information and not some discrete auto HDR image.

I love to walk around with a brush or any other PS tool in order to get what I want.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Multilayer Sensors are Coming From Canon [CR2]
« on: October 10, 2014, 07:30:02 AM »
Yeah, I'm bummed the sensorgen.info domain expired. Those guys do seem to update the site with recent cameras...maybe it will come back when they notice the domain expired.
I will try to ask around about it :-(

Regarding the whole stacking/in-sensor HDR idea. Other companies are working on that. There are patents that support just that very thing. Some companies are even researching how to use dual-gain (basically the same thing as Magic Lantern's Dual ISO) to improve dynamic range WELL beyond 14 stops (20, 22 stops maybe more).
You sure about it? However a simple stacking of 3/5/9 frames @ different stops embedded in on image @32 bit is the best even without the multibucketing. The latter could only be useful for sport & High-FPS photography.

However if you have some time could I kindly ask for a patent or two links - it would be certainly of high interest to me and you definitely read patents better than me.  :-[

This is why I'm frustrated with Canon, and now open to alternative brands. Canon, while a highly innovative company, doesn't seem to be all that innovative when it comes to sensors. (Which is REALLY weird to me...given that they are an imaging company...pretty much everything they do revolves around digital image sensor technology.) Canon just doesn't seem to be in the sensor innovation game right now. They have had a couple, but none of it (at least so far...maybe their layered sensors will change things) has been very ground breaking. DPAF is pretty awesome for video...but even that was an evolution on an idea Fuji originally implemented (and I think Fuji got it from a much older paper.)

Yeah! Tell me about it.

At least for one thing that Neuro imposter IMO was right:

"the real problems are the managers at canon
they are lazy and have made their fortune.
hell is there even one under 60?
"

Or Canon was more conservative on R&D spending (which I believe is not the case since if I recall correctly they have kept investing about 2% of their profit).

Back to the HDR sensor topic. I think the most viable technology at the moment is multi-bucket CCD-backed pixels. This is an Aptina innovation...they took the basic single-CCD backing buffer or "memory" for global shutter, and expanded it to four CCDs per pixel (it's a CCD, or charge-coupled device, as that's a very simple and efficient way to move charge from one place to another). With four memories per pixel, the charge in the pixel can be moved to memory four times.
Patent link, patent link PLZZZzzzzz

As for the global shutter - don't even remind me about that. Everybody is slowly getting on that ship too. If I remember correctly Canon has no such feature in any of its CMOS sensor within any Pro level camera.

And that is a good trend to follow at least.

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EOS Bodies / Re: High Megapixel Camera to Come in Two Variants? [CR1]
« on: October 10, 2014, 07:04:48 AM »
I say they separate again the 1D series or they might actually separate the 5D series perhaps.

* - 1 for sport (regular updated CMOS BSI tech)
* - 1 for studio (new FOVEON slower but better than Sigma sensor)

Additionally the speculation of mirrorless and DSLR also seems quite reasonable along with the astro version.

I love colour, don't I?  ;D

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EOS Bodies / Re: Multilayer Sensors are Coming From Canon [CR2]
« on: October 09, 2014, 07:17:02 PM »
Yep. Quite interesting is that Panasonic idea. And I hear about it here for the first time. Seems to have missed it.

About that 16 bit talk a few posts earlier... I wonder about one alternative (aside from Sport photography  maybe) Canon could develop an image processor to use stack/HDR-like/ photos to produce a 32 bit TIFF or even a RAW (which is similar). Perhaps combined with that dual ISO from ML exploit (which mechanics I honestly don't remember quite well). I enjoy quite to Adobe PS feature for 32 bit TIFFs. But Native is always better. I admit 10 FPS wouldn't be maybe possible, but who knows.... Anyways - tech is here: Hardly too much of R&D is required for this kind of feature compared to 16 bit Sensor option. Although having in mind Jrista's data on the wells... who knows. But 32 is always bigger than 16 ;-)


Jrista - you got your numbers from http://sensorgen.info/ ? BTW their Domain has expired... Bah! Google cache is still here :-)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Multilayer Sensors are Coming From Canon [CR2]
« on: October 08, 2014, 07:19:40 PM »
I'm curious if this new layered sensor is the one that uses UV and IR layers to remove skin blemishes. If so, is this next Canon DSLR a replacement for the 1Ds, a studio and portrait camera?

The patent with the UV/IR layers sounded like it was for P&S cams.

I don't believe that Canon would leave such a strong concept available only to P&S. It can might be also available to security cams.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Wifi on 5D MK IV?
« on: October 08, 2014, 07:12:40 PM »
Check this out. A cheap substitute. ;-)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Multilayer Sensors are Coming From Canon [CR2]
« on: October 08, 2014, 07:08:16 PM »
... I would love to replace my 5D2 with something worth upgrading to....namely a 5D4 with this rumored new sensor.

Just imagine the dual AF and that new sexy sensor .... in MF ;-) What do you think? If this was more than kust  daydreaming - prepare thy kidney :D

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EOS Bodies / Re: Multilayer Sensors are Coming From Canon [CR2]
« on: October 08, 2014, 06:59:57 PM »
Yep.

We've got an instant CR2 after stupid countdown non-sense from yesterday.

Neuro and I both wrote on that article mentioned.

And both were not happy with Canon staying behind others.  As many others in those comments. The main point was the lack of new product features and bold actions from Canon managment in such competitive times.

And today we have FINALLY an (almost) unofficial announcement of new products to come. Such an obvious action seems a little late.

And nobody can't persuade me that there wasn't that call to that member of Canon Explorer of Light who was told to tell to CR about it...

Come on! That's cheap!

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Canon General / Re: seeimpossible.usa.canon.com?
« on: October 07, 2014, 03:45:17 AM »
I've been taking screenshots of the page with the clock ticking down to use as a practical case of viral marketing to my students. Right at this minute I am not sure if it turned out to be the great example I thought it was!
We'll see. Good idea BTW :-)

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Canon General / Re: seeimpossible.usa.canon.com?
« on: October 06, 2014, 04:30:04 PM »
Speaking as a guy who long suffered with a job in ad agencies, some observations:

- Having a domain name reserved a year in advance is done generally only for very planned campaigns. This isn’t the product-to-promote-for-the-quarter, but rather a major effort budgeted in FY 2013 (I believe Canon has a calendar fiscal year).

- The watermark behind the text is of the box logo, which means that they had no budget for any sort of imagery, or - more likely - they are going to introduce a physical product and do not wish to step on their suspense by having any of it appear until tomorrow.

- There is no attempt to capture visitors to the site with an email notification or even a social following request other than the standard one that appears at the bottom of all Canon pages. This suggests to me that they are using their main traditional media agency for this project, rather than, well, someone who knows how things should done in 2014 (which isn’t a cut on Canon, as this is how it’s generally done with large brands).

- This is, indeed, a poor copy of the old Apple campaign framed as a toast to the “think different” crowd. Interestingly, they even copied the deliberate grammatical oddness in order to create a mind-sticking emphasis. It “should” have been “think differently,” and it sticks in your head the more for it being slightly improper. Canon dropped the article before impossible. It should have been “the impossible” to complete the cliche. All this said, they’ve done it poorly because “We see impossible” can mean that they *are* the nay-sayers. This suggests to me that the copy/concept originated in Japan, and the U.S. agency is, as usual, taking orders. It suggests that parsing the text isn’t terribly fruitful. One last note on the ad copy: it harkens quite consistently to Canon’s previous ads that feature users of their products, borrowing cool and artistic merit from the efforts made with their products. I think this last note is the most predictive of what we’re going to see.

- Canon has a long history of using teasers for very lame introductions that otherwise wouldn’t even be noticed. The most recent was that ad in India that got this forum all excited for a week.

- The subdomain is attached as a sub-sub domain to the USA website, which suggests this is not a global release. This is bad news for you guys looking for the 1D whatever, or other product that would fit into its global competitive offerings.

- The choice of the NYT does suggest an attempt to reach a national audience, rather than the artistic community in NY. Interestingly, they appear to have bought only print. They have purchased neither the biz, technology or art sections of NYT.com

- A rule of thumb in media is to purchase at least twice as much media in the main campaign as you’ve purchased in the teaser part. This isn’t hewed to very consistently, but they probably dropped a $150-200k on the NYT ad pags, so a follow-on campaign might be a half million dollars, which for Canon is a significant campaign.

- This leaves me guessing it’s
A) a printer that has some sort of networking or other feature to which IT departments will have an auto-immune reaction (thus explaining lots of the language, attempting to inoculate against the inevitable vetoes)
B) the launch of some sort of social media/media effort to show off cool things Americans do with Canon cameras.
C) something even lamer

Yeah! Most probably

* - a printer or
* - Cloud service (for selfies - different from irista.com)

or even a

* - CANON SMARTPHONE :D :D :D

I can hardly imagine a production or release event for US local market ONLY. I say a an ad that would attract a lot of talk for something that needs an artificial buzz otherwise quite not that interesting.

While some exciting news would be everywhere for free ;-)

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EOS Bodies / Re: More Talk of an October Announcement of a DSLR [CR1]
« on: September 27, 2014, 09:59:41 AM »
I am not satisfied by the rate of Canon's sensor improvement.  The way I see it the 70D II was a year late.  The 7D II is two years late.   A high MP camera is 3 years late. 

Every year my expectations for what a camera should do increase.  And every year Canon falls further and further behind. 

Couldn't have said it better. Me already considers a Sony 7s as well :-((((

The baby steps someone already mentioned here in comparison to others are really easily ignored. I guess the next 1Dx will give:
* - 120 all cross points AF
* - 3 double crossed in the center
* - A third generation of DUAL AF
* - finally 400k ISO
* - probably 4K @ 30 FPS just because it's their flagship DSLR
* - probably 28 MP or 24... who knows... :-(
* - Dual 6+ DIGICs + could be with another 5+ regular for focusing...

Make some shortened/crippled version of the above. and just swap the MPs for some 40 (and above) MPs. Put all that in another FASHION/STUDIO oriented body. And there you go... Again flagship divided in two bodies... :-(

Now having in mind that NIKON is ALSO falling down with no other but the same baby steps recently. I don't expect anything big.

What both can do is to come out with some MF body in 1 or 2 years.

Actually what I really believe is that the new CANON rumored mount is either:

1/ improved EF for video AF servo
2/ MF mount!!!

I am pretty sure since in the last year all the time there are rumors about a big MP, that it should come before September 2015. However is this good enough among such strong competition?

Now since in high PRO we have even most probably SONY any time soon (they are the only one missing from the whole MF DSLR story, aside from NIKON and CANON). Having in mind that they are the FIRST VENDOR of MF CMOS - they sold it quite well to almost everyone pushing aside CANON and NIKON from the leadership.

And I know that John (Jrista) will explain how they are the current leaders we have to face the fact that it is only due to the totaly amatuer segment of the market.

And as long as it is profitable their status quo would be eminent. However here comes the MILC age.... what then?


Here it is: THE CAT IS OUT!

According to latest rumors Canon is expected to announce a High Resolution DSLR in October 2015, so there are two possibility
#1. Canon may also do a development announcement of new product in October or
#2. If a new product is announced then it won’t ship for a long while, however Canon fans are now tired of waiting for Canon Megapixel Monster and as per unconfirmed reports a  huge number of Canon crowed already moved to purchase Sony A7R and Nikon D8XX series….Stay with us more coming


This pathetic whining is really getting boring..
Yep and your comments aren't any fun either ;-)
I am awaiting a NEW body that deserves my money aimed for an upgrade

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EOS Bodies / Re: More Talk of an October Announcement of a DSLR [CR1]
« on: September 26, 2014, 06:13:51 PM »
I am not satisfied by the rate of Canon's sensor improvement.  The way I see it the 70D II was a year late.  The 7D II is two years late.   A high MP camera is 3 years late. 

Every year my expectations for what a camera should do increase.  And every year Canon falls further and further behind. 

Couldn't have said it better. Me already considers a Sony 7s as well :-((((

The baby steps someone already mentioned here in comparison to others are really easily ignored. I guess the next 1Dx will give:
* - 120 all cross points AF
* - 3 double crossed in the center
* - A third generation of DUAL AF
* - finally 400k ISO
* - probably 4K @ 30 FPS just because it's their flagship DSLR
* - probably 28 MP or 24... who knows... :-(
* - Dual 6+ DIGICs + could be with another 5+ regular for focusing...

Make some shortened/crippled version of the above. and just swap the MPs for some 40 (and above) MPs. Put all that in another FASHION/STUDIO oriented body. And there you go... Again flagship divided in two bodies... :-(

Now having in mind that NIKON is ALSO falling down with no other but the same baby steps recently. I don't expect anything big.

What both can do is to come out with some MF body in 1 or 2 years.

Actually what I really believe is that the new CANON rumored mount is either:

1/ improved EF for video AF servo
2/ MF mount!!!

I am pretty sure since in the last year all the time there are rumors about a big MP, that it should come before September 2015. However is this good enough among such strong competition?

Now since in high PRO we have even most probably SONY any time soon (they are the only one missing from the whole MF DSLR story, aside from NIKON and CANON). Having in mind that they are the FIRST VENDOR of MF CMOS - they sold it quite well to almost everyone pushing aside CANON and NIKON from the leadership.

And I know that John (Jrista) will explain how they are the current leaders we have to face the fact that it is only due to the totaly amatuer segment of the market.

And as long as it is profitable their status quo would be eminent. However here comes the MILC age.... what then?

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