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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon T4i or wait for T5i?
« on: February 07, 2013, 09:42:51 AM »
Like others have said, it depends on your current situation. Do you have a camera now? If not, then buy it now. There is always something better around the corner. Meanwhile, you are missing pictures.

If you DO have a camera now (with adequate IQ), do you really need to upgrade? And if you do, how soon?

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: TAMRON'S thinking about making FAST PRIMES
« on: February 07, 2013, 08:13:08 AM »
Yes! I really like Tamron, and with their VC and USD tech, they could probably compete in the 200-400 range with fast primes. Hopefully they introduce something not offered by anyone else, like a 200mm f/2.4 or a 350mm f/3.5. Available in black... :)

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Confirms 70D; Future of Semi-Pro DSLR is FF
« on: February 07, 2013, 05:17:23 AM »
In that respect, Canon does a better job making cameras for photographers, rather than refining technology for obsessive-compulsive minutia-entwined techno-babbling batshit-crazy should-be-out-photographing-something wackos like myself and so many others on this forum.  ;D

Oh, this deserves a HUGE +1. Touché, my friend. :D

Ah, that is the point. I did not put style of photography in there on purpose. This list could be used for everyone. So you can suggest good UWAs, Macros, Tilt-shifts, Teles, zooms, primes, well whatever you feel is "good enough"!

I am reading up a lot on this, preparing for purchasing a 7D classic, and everyone seems to agree that the 18mp APS-C sensor is capable of excellent results, providing it is paired with a "good enough lens".

So, my question is: Which lenses ARE good enough for the 18mp APS-C sensor?

Lots of answers are: "L mark II"

So, is it only L mark II that are "good enough" for 7D? Where do you draw the line? At L-glass?
Is the 85mm f1.8 good enough? The 70-300 non-L? the 17-40L?

If someone had a list of "good enough" lenses, I would (and I think others too) appreciate it a lot. Especially where to draw the line. L mark II are WAY out of my budget, so lets set the limit to 1000$.

Which lenses are good enough (sharp and resolving power) for the 18mp APS-C sensor, below 1000$?

Come on! Give me some nice recommendations! (3rd party is fine too) :)

True that Scarpz! Convincing the partner is one thing we all have to deal with. :)
Good luck with your purchase!

Rienz: you are quite correct in the IQ and responsiveness comments. But, I would argue that the use the OP is suggesting for their setup, lends itself very well for the SX50. Usually daylight photos, not often fast moving objects, and I would like the possibility to get a close-up at the top of the rollercoaster, just before the first drop, all while standing on the ground. :)

For fun family and vacation pictures in daylight, the SX50 is more than capable of delivering nice pics, and you never have to switch lenses, and as I mentioned, it weighs less than the lens, making it easy to handle for kids and the like, when the OP wants a pic of themselves in the rollercoaster... :)

...if you do own a 7D and you don't need the FPS then sell it and get a second hand 5Dii.
But what if you do? Or need good/fast AF? Or if you are somewhat weak (sick, old...) and want a smaller setup? Or if you are into birding/wildlife/telephoto? And, most importantly, if you are low on funds?
I may even flippantly throw in my doubt that photog > equipment even applies any more...
I would not even go there :)

Seriously though. FF is great. I have tried the 5D and like you say, the "depth" is what makes it stand out from the APS-C pictures. I do not see any conflict between APS-C and FF. It is like debating if a Humvee is better than a BMW. For what?

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Confirms 70D; Future of Semi-Pro DSLR is FF
« on: February 04, 2013, 10:41:43 AM »
And given the overall IQ benefits of the 5Diii, I have doubts that there would be many, if any, 7Dii buyers out there. 
I think here you are just plain wrong. Yes, the 5DIII has superior IQ, but most of the potential customers are used to APS-C quality or less (think iPhone), and they actually don't care if the 5DIII is 10, 15 or even 50% better, since it is way outside their price limit for a camera. Especially with lenses added. Most will just be satisfied with a 15-85 and a 70-300 IS USM (non-L), or just the kit 18-135! Most of the potential customers will never exceed that 3000$ line.

And for the pros wanting a backup, they will accept the hi-iso limitations etc, because their style of work does not require noiseless pictures in the dark. They value the reach much more.

We'll only see a 7Dii when Canon develops a next generation of APS-C sensors in which the image quality is noticeably better than a cropped 5Diii image.
Not necessarily true, because of the reasons above. If it is at least 5-10% better than the current 7D, most customers will accept it as good enough, when combined with other upgrades, like wide-tele AFMA, GPS/WiFi, bigger screen etc. etc.

Lenses / Re: What's the best deal you've ever gotten on a lens?
« on: February 04, 2013, 05:54:43 AM »
Bought a used EOS 500N with a 28-105 USM for 50$ this fall. I thought it was the 4-5.6, which costs around 75$ used here. (I know it is supposed to be abysmal, I wanted it to try out the reach on a crop).

When I met up with the seller, it was a 3.5-4.5. Thank you!

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Confirms 70D; Future of Semi-Pro DSLR is FF
« on: February 04, 2013, 04:39:59 AM »
I think that NOT releasing 7DII with an APS-C sensor would be immensely stupid of Canon.

  • They have a whole bunch of professionals (birders and sports) that wants it as a 1st or 2nd body.
  • They have a whole bunch of amateurs that cant afford/do not want to go to FF
  • There is now NO other APS-C body with magnesuim build and weather sealing
  • There is now NO other APS-C body that has AFMA and really good AF

So Canon has three groups of potential customers. The pros that need APS-C for backup/reach, the current owners of 7D that wants to update, and the consumers that wants up from Rebel/XXD but dont want/cant afford FF.

One has also to remember the effort Canon has made in EF-S lenses. Where do I go if I have an EF-S setup, and want to upgrade, but not have to sell off half my gear?

So, bottom line is: To release a 7DII (even with small tweaking, like 6D to 5DII) is a good business decision, as they will make a lot of money on it.

PowerShot / Re: A camera for backpacking into the wilderness...
« on: January 30, 2013, 11:13:42 AM »
Eos-M? I might be wrong, but fast autofocus isn't that important when doing landscape, i guess? The 22 prime would get you far, and an adapter and 10-22? Hell, Eos-M body plus EF-M 22mm prime plus EF-M 18-55mm zoom plus the EOS M adapter weighs in at 29.1 oz together, leaving ample space for a 10-22 if you like, with much more flexibility. Put the 22 prime on and off you go!

PowerShot / Re: Canon Announces 3 Long Zoom PowerShot Cameras
« on: January 30, 2013, 08:02:38 AM »
...high-quality images captured with an impressive 10x optical zoom lens and 12.1-megapixel High-Sensitivity CMOS image sensor...

?!? ...impressive??? ...impressive? ??????  ...impressive?? ????????? :o >:(

Nikon has a 42x (forty two) zoom with 18.1 MP sensor on P520.
(see http://www.petapixel.com/2013/01/29/nikon-overhauls-entire-compact-lineup-announces-seven-new-point-and-shoots)

Fuji has 30x stabilized zoom with 16MP for FinePix S4800
(see http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/01/30/Fujifilm-FinePix-S4800-superzoom)

Also, Fuji has the F900EXR - a 20X zoom, raw-capable compact superzoom with built-in Wi-Fi, offering what Fujifilm claims is the 'world's fastest AF'. The F900 uses a 16MP EXR-CMOS II sensor with Phase Detection AF technology. A near-identical twin of the F800EXR in other respects, it offers the same stabilized 25-500mm equivalent lens, captures 1080p movies, P,A,S,M shooting modes and the ability to wirelessly transfer files via the free 'Fujifilm Camera Application' app for Android and iOS devices.

(source: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/01/30/Fujifilm-announces-WIFi-enabled-F900EXR)

Really, the Canon offering is "impressive". But in other ways than the Canon management and/or marketing might think.



Ehm, this is in an ELPH/IXUS body. Putting a 42x zoom in such a body would require the imaging chip to be the size of a mobile phone camera or even smaller. (Not a bad idea though, an Iphone 8mpx with 42x zoom WOULD sell).

Canon General / Re: Why did you choose Canon?
« on: January 30, 2013, 07:50:52 AM »
For me, it was largely my wife's fault. When we met, she had a konica P&S for film. I accidentally put it in the washing machine (long story), and it was no more. Next up, she got a IXUS APS and liked it. Then she got a EOS 500N from her father, which we used for a loong time.

When digital turned up, we started from scratch, as we wanted first a P&S. We looked at all the brands, but my wife had two criterias: IQ, and skintones. She disregarded all other brands after looking at pics, and we became the owners of an A80, which we loved. Adored the vari-angle screen.

A year later, it falls out of our car, and we get an A95 on the insurance (same, but better than A80).

Three years later, we get married. (yes, she is my wife now, but we were together for many years before it happened). So, what to give my wife as a "morning gift"? (old tradition in my country).

The 40D had just come out, but I got a sweet deal on the 30D, and funds wer limited, so I went for it (thinking I can use the old sigma lenses for the 500N for it). The 70-300 worked, but the 28-80 did not, so I sold that package off to a relative, and bought the Tamron 17-50 non-VC.

And now? Several lenses later and flash etc.? I will not switch brands unless Canon goes bankrupt or starts using baby hearts to power their cameras (or something similarly unprobable royal screw-up).

So, pros:

Ergonomics. Nikons feel weird.
Total package. Room to grow that only Nikon can compete with.
Colors and skintones. (yes I know you can change it, but I don't know how, and with Canon, I don't need to...)
Lenses. Both Third-Party and the lovely USM ones
Build quality. (thats the reason I chose a 30D over a Rebel, it has been banged up many times, and still works as new, over 120.000 actuations later)

Well...price? (but you DO get what you pay for, both in houses and lenses)

DR does not affect me that much, as I am not remotely pushing the boundaries there. I want fast autofocus and good Hi-Iso performance.

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