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1D X Sample Images / Re: Any Thing shot with a 1Dx
« on: March 12, 2014, 09:45:15 PM »
1Dx 200-400f/4

1st = 300L, 2nd = 300L + 2xTC, 3rd = 400L, 4th = Tammy 600mm, 5th = 400L + 2xTC etc etc, yada yada yada :o

I can only comment on what I own or have owned, mine currently would look like this.

300f/2.8 II
400f/2.8 II (Now Sold)
600f/4 II

With the exception of the 200-400f/4, all these Lenses show very minimal IQ degradation when using the 1.4x Version III converter.

Using the 2x Version III Converter on any of these Lenses shows IQ degradation, it's not bad, but it's noticeable.

The 1.4x can be used on the 200-400f/4 when using the built in 1.4x converter for reasonable results, use of the 2x converter gives poor results.

The difference between the 200f/2 & 300f/2.8 II is marginal in the areas of AF speed & sharpness.

The difference between the 400f/2.8 II, 600f/4 II & 200-400f/4 is again marginal in the same areas.

The other thing you have to remember is the big whites do not depreciate, and can be an investment, third party lenses are generally cheap to buy on the second hand market. Another reason to look at the big white's.

This is a good point & it has been my own experience, I owned both the version 1 300f/2.8 & 400f/2.8 Lenses, sold them for exactly what I had paid for them when I purchased the Version 2 Lenses, I could have sold them at a profit but I sold to friends so I was interested only in recouping what I'de spent.

On the question of f stop use, on all my White Lenses 200f/2, 300f/2.8, 200-400f/4 & 600f/4 I rarely shoot at anything more than f/2 on the 200, f/2.8 -f/4 on the 300, and f/4 - f/5.6 on the 200-400 & 600. I carry with me at all times a Circular Polariser to help with bright light conditions.

Photography Technique / Re: Can you share your workflow?
« on: March 12, 2014, 04:52:10 AM »
But, you can open your 1DX RAW files in LR3 if you first convert them to the lossless RAW DNG format via Adobe free and totally supported program DNG Convertor.

See I didn't know that, good one Private.

Photography Technique / Re: Can you share your workflow?
« on: March 11, 2014, 11:18:52 PM »

Eml58...I gather you were referring  to my earlier post, regarding Lightroom not supporting the 1DX.  I am using a PC based system, and I cannot open the raw files in Lightroom3...I was told by Adobe that I would have to upgrade to Lightoom4.  Is that correct??

Also, I would be very interested in viewing yours as well as Mackguyver's workflow.

I was yes, and Ahhhh, now I understand.

I believe that's correct to a degree, I generally have had very little issues with this as I always upgrade & currently I'm on the Creative Cloud option.

Adobe do drop off some updating I understand to older versions, ensures we conform and upgrade, I know I had to update to Camera RAW 7.1 recently to ensure I had compatibility with my A7R.

You may well find that you will need to upgrade to LR4 stand alone version to get 1Dx compatibility, it's a bummer, but I think most Software Companies operate like Adobe, Apple etc.

Photography Technique / Re: Can you share your workflow?
« on: March 11, 2014, 07:59:19 PM »

Seriously though, I haven't found a decent work flow on Mac. I had a crappy but functional workflow, but Mavericks made that impossible. Now I'm left with a painful procedure.

Interesting comment, could you elaborate on the issues you are having with "Mavericks" ??

I've been using a Mac based system for a very long time, currently I use a 15" MacBook Pro "Retina" when I'm in the field, at home I'm using a 2011 MacPro, the only issue I've found to date when I upgraded to Mavericks was with the MacPro where Mavericks does not support as yet the 2009 RAID Card in my 2011 system (in fact the 2009 Card is it, there is nothing newer), So although the RAID system works, it works less than at full efficiency. There has been zero issues on my MacBook Pro.

Someone mentioned earlier they don't use Adobe LR because it doesn't support the 1Dx, that's not correct in my experience, I have used LR since the first iteration through to currently LR5, all have supported my Camera Bodies, including my current Bodies, 1Dx, 5DMK III, 5DMK II, 1DMK IV, A7R.

As far as a devised system goes, I use the following system and software, all of which works without issue on Mavericks.

Shoot in Full RAW (90% of my Images are shot Manual with WB selected for the conditions and ISO selected)

I Import all Images direct from the Card, or from the External HD if I've been in the Field for a lOng time & already transferred to my 2 1TB HD's, I keep two HD's with 2 Copies of everything.

When I get Home I transfer all Images to my External 32TB Gspeed es Pro system set on RAID 5.

Import all Images into Light Room 5 (as a part of the broader Creative Cloud Suite)(from my Gspeed External HD) I manage Files in LR5 as it seems to do the job very well, Images are easy to locate even when you move them from one External HD to a new HD, just use "Locate in Finder" Tag One Image in the new Drive and Presto your complete Folder is found.

Work through my Images and make a selection by "Flagging" which Images I will work with (I delete nothing, even obviously poor Images, you never know what Software will be able to do in the future).

Once I have all Images selected that I want to work on I begin in LR5 by making the following adjustments in LR

Crop/WB adjustment if required (I make only these adjustments in LR as I like to keep everything on a separate Layer so I can go back and make adjustments if necessary, Layers still does this better than LR)

I then move to Photo Shop CC & make broad adjustments in these areas all on a separate Layer


If a more Local adjustment is required I will generally make a separate Layer in PS CC and go into NIK's Viveza2

If more work is required at this Point, all adjustments are made on separate Layers.

If required I will go into On One's Perfect Photo Suite 8 and utilise adjustments in On One on the built in system of Layers, it's more intuitive than PSCC I feel and everything comes back into PSCC on a separate Layer.

The only other Software I use is Filter Forge, I use Filter Forge for any last adjustments such as Broad brush lighting, Setting in place a Vignette.

I print from PS CC as I find it's better as a Printing Engine than LR5.

I adjust Image size in On One Perfect Photo Suite "Resize".

I adjust for noise where necessary in NIK's Dfine2

I adjust sharpening in PS CC.

A typical Image I want to just show may take around 30 Minutes (this is dependent on how much I dicked it in Camera of course, takes longer the worse job I made of the capture).

To Print may take a lot longer as I would typically go back to adjust for Printing which takes more work than just showing on the Web or on a Computer/iPad etc.

Software used on 95% of my Images

Light Room 5
PhotoShop CC
NIK Suite
On One Perfect Photo Suite 8
Filter forge

Like Macguyver I would be happy to put this process into a workflow Sheet with Images type arrangement, not sure once it's done though how people get to see it, so welcome to hear if there's interest & suggestions on how to show it once it's done.

I bought the 300f/2.8 II after owning the Version 1, I am of the opinion the 300f/2.8 II is the sharpest & quickest focussing of all the Large Whites, the 200f/2 is almost as good.  Use of the 1.4x converter gives very little appreciable degradation in IQ, not bad with the 2x as well. This is my go to Lens in dim light & where all day hand holding is required.

I've owned the 200-400f/4 since release date, this is probably used for 90% of my Imaging, I can find very little, if anything, to fault on this Lens. Fast Lock On AF, Sharp & clear. I don't generally hand hold this Lens, it's used on a monopod or tripod set up, with the 1.4x converter to flip in/out, plus the zoom & camera controls to adjust there's too much going on to make this Lens a comfortable Hand Hold for long periods, plus at 4 Kilos it get's old pretty quickly.

I've owned the 600f/4 II for about 18 months now, an amazingly sharp Lens, use of the 1.4x converter gives very little appreciable degradation in IQ, not bad with the 2x as well. Not exactly a Hand Holdable Lens although possible for short periods, fast AF sharp as a diamond Lens, it's size though when travelling is a bit of a PIA, but worth it where the 600-840 is needed in large open spaces, or Birding (although Birds are not what I generally use the Lens for).

I did own both the 400f/2.8 V1 & later the 400f/2.8 II Lenses, both of these are superb Lenses, not quite as fast to AF as the 300f/2.8 II but close, IQ is hard to beat, size is good, the Version II became almost a Hand Holdable Lens, but gets heavy quickly, if I hadn't bough the 200-400f/4 this would still be my main go to Lens for Wildlife, works very well with the 1.4x converter, quite good with the 2x.

I've never owned a Tamron Lens, but I see the attraction purely in price, I do own the Sigma 35 Art (excellent Lens), and a couple of Zeiss Lenses (15 & 55, on IQ immaculate, but MF).

1D X Sample Images / Re: Any Thing shot with a 1Dx
« on: March 10, 2014, 05:31:24 AM »
Last One, in B & W

Lenses / Re: Canon 600mm f4 IS II Vs Canon 200-400mm w/1.4x TC
« on: March 10, 2014, 04:42:00 AM »
And now Dylan a tough question. Actually a very tough one: Does your wife know? Does she even  know about this poll?  ;D ;D ;D

If the size and color is same as my 400mm f2.8 IS II, she couldn't tell the diff. That why I ruled out Tamron ;D

That is truly very Funny, deceitfully crafty, and smart.

1D X Sample Images / Re: Any Thing shot with a 1Dx
« on: March 09, 2014, 10:41:44 PM »
24/70 2.8 @ 7.1
great grandson  came over to visit so I had to get the camera out for a few fast ones

Beautifully lit Gary, love the Hair.

1D X Sample Images / Re: Any Thing shot with a 1Dx
« on: March 09, 2014, 10:40:49 PM »
I think the prize winning photo you refer to is the one above. Now better understand the combination of factors that led to the accident. I thought about how it was dangerous for the "runners", but now I think it is even more dangerous to unsuspecting photographers. It is ironic that poisonous snakes and lions kill fewer photographers that hippos "cute". Should I put the bulls on my list of danger from now.

That's the one, what made this stand out I feel was the "Rider" and his pose at the instant the image was taken, great Image.

Viewfinder Blindness is the biggest issue, leaving it too late to look up and see just how close the Bulls actually are, big mistake.

The attached 2 show how Happy some riders can be at the end, and also the method they use to get the builds to go faster, Bite the Tails, this in itself is extremely brave when you consider what happens around a Bulls Back End.

Lenses / Re: Canon 600mm f4 IS II Vs Canon 200-400mm w/1.4x TC
« on: March 09, 2014, 08:27:09 PM »

Be able to visit places you mentioned above would be a dream come true for me - maybe one day when the kids grow up a little bit more.

I live in California, 10min -15mins away from Huntington Beach. It's very well known place for surfing. The summer here is quite special. Be able to capture the pro surfers will be interesting in my photography collection.

Hi Dylan, I couldn't afford to get to most of these places until my mid 40's, I'de say you have plenty of time.

Huntington Beach is a lovely spot I agree, My Family & I visited the area in 2011, we drove from San Diego to Vancouver over a 5 week period, probably some of the most amazing Coastline on the Planet.

Lenses / Re: Canon 600mm f4 IS II Vs Canon 200-400mm w/1.4x TC
« on: March 09, 2014, 08:21:18 PM »
Sigma 50-500 or a plain Canon, which one would they take?

I was Photographing the Bull Run at Pacu Jawi couple days back, of the 11 to 15 serious Photographers 4 were using the Sigma 50-500 on a mix of Canon/Nikon & Olympus, One of the Photographers is a close friend and his Images were excellent coming from this Lens on a D800 all shot on a Monopod.

I was using the 200-400 on a Tripod, have to admit when it came to running from the bulls path I envied my friends rig.

1D X Sample Images / Re: Any Thing shot with a 1Dx
« on: March 09, 2014, 07:37:14 PM »
Great pictures EML. ;) But one thing I do not understand. ??? The guy who had crushed D4 and 800mm was so close to the bulls, and could fit even two huge animals in the camera viewfinder, or he attempted a portrait "head and shoulders" of the animal and did not realize the actual distance? :'( Should he have used a 1200mm?

Hi ajfotofilmagem, with my 200-400, I was set at 400 when they started the run, to get them full frame at this Point you needed a 600-800 (I tried 560 f/5.6 but it was taking too long to flip out the 1.4x so I stuck with 400 back to 200), waited until they filled the frame at the half way point then started to zoom back to 200, most of my Images were taken at 300-200 as this allowed most of the background to disappear among the flying mud ( a load of people & tents in the background), of course at that point the Bulls are 3 seconds from you.

The Chinese chap was with a small group behind us on a slight muddy rise that should have been safer & mostly was. Because the animals often took a while to get into the wooden harness,so unfortunately they released 2 & even 3 "runners" at the same time or quite close, that meant you pretty well had to do a runner immediately because with 6 Bulls coming down the patch at one time, your feet in a foot of the mud made escape a priority decision made sooner rather than later.

The Chinese chap just wrong footed himself, he ran Ok, but ran into a deeper muddy patch to one side where he was steamrollered by a Nikon hating Black Bull. He had a Nikon 200-400 & a D800 as a back up set up and was using the 800f/5.6 to get long shots of the riders from the start. The damage to his rig was mostly where the D4 Body parted company with the 800, the Tripod was fine, albeit a bit muddy, but the Body was missing the Lens Flange so a done deal, the 800 was slightly bent in the middle so you could possibly have saved it & shot around corners.

Within 10 minutes the guy was set back up & shooting, they make them tough in China.

The event is arranged once a year at the village level, there's not a lot of organisation that goes into the event, but the locals are very careful to try and reduce accidents, the nearest Hospital is at Padang a 2 hour drive away. This year apparently had the least amount of Photographers willing to set up at the end of the bull Run, and there was only the one semi casualty, last year they had to get a Malaysian Photographer to Hospital, and another Malaysian Photographer won the Sony World Photography award 2013 with an Image shot at this event in 2012 (Chen Wei Seng).

1D X Sample Images / Re: Any Thing shot with a 1Dx
« on: March 09, 2014, 07:35:04 AM »

Stunning images Edward! The speed, sound, splash, mud and excitement can really be felt.

Poor Chinese though. But I suppose, when you provoke the bulls with a Nikon rig, you only have yourself to blame ...  ::)

Thanks Eldar, it was a blast for sure, fortunately there were only 11 serious Photographers at the end of the Bull Run, what made it difficult was that often when the Riders were ditched the bulls would split apart, so it was always, run left, run right or stand still, the Chinese gentlemen made the wrong choice, with his gear as well.

However, given how I sometimes worry about my gear, shooting with expensive stuff like 1Dx & 200-400f/4, D4 & 800f/5.6... in Sumatran mud and water, with bulls running around... must be an adrenaline sport on its own ;)

The Chinese gentlemen & I had the by far the most expensive rigs, it's amazing though just how fast you can pick up that gear (mine was on a tripod) & run like hell when you have about 2 tonne of Beef bearing down on you.

The most amazing part were the "Riders", each Guy would do about 5 or 6 Runs during the day, very fit & very brave.

Superb ! I love the subtle colours you're getting.

I started without a Polariser, midway through the day I was finding I had a load of difficulty with highlights blowing out on the water & where you had a Black Bull & a White one together the white Bull was blowing out, I dropped in the Circular polariser, cranked up the ISO to 1000 & kept the shutter speed @ 1/800th, it darkened the Images but helped a lot with bringing out the colours, just added +1.5 stops in Post to compensate for the lack of DR in the Canon Sensor.

The guy with the crushed D4 wouldn't have had that particular issue.

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