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The 1D/1Ds created product confusion amongst Canon's customers.

The 1DX is a unified product to remove confusion.

I use both the 1DMK IV & the 1Dx, I also have a 1DsMK III sitting gathering dust, there's no confusion in my mind, and the large majority of people that bought into the 1D line, bought for the higher frame rate that a 1.3 crop sensor made possible (and the perceived extra reach on a long lens), those that bought into the 1Ds line bought in for the better Image resolution of a FF sensor.

Why Canon amalgamated the line in my view had zero to do with dim & confused Buyers, it had more to do with the fact that Canon were spreading there eggs among three sensor developments, FF, 1.6 & 1.3 crop, it was a decision based on Market & Economics, nothing to do with how intelligent the chosen market happened to be, most people buying into the 1D line of Canon products are either professional, semi professional, well healed Amateurs or less well healed amateurs that know pretty well exactly what they want in a Camera body.

Why Canon didn't go down the path that Nikon did & continues to do where most Nikon top end Bodies allow at least 2 or 3 different in camera crop factors, Canon to my knowledge have never done that, which is a shame in my view, regards this point, I acknowledge some confusion.

Lenses / Re: What New Lens are You Most Excited About?
« on: September 13, 2014, 06:38:35 PM »
Yeah, from the images I've seen, the Otus lenses are amazing. I'm not sure the non-Otus lenses are that far above Canon's, but the Otus definitely seem to be.

Regarding the higher MP body...have you considered the A7r with EF adapter? Since the Zeiss lenses are all manual, it's not like AF is going to be an issue. You would get that nice high resolution, high DR, which would go GREAT with the Otus lenses.

Hi John, Yes, I actually purchased the a7r, The EVF is a little difficult to get used to for me, the lag thing is just annoying so it's mostly manual focus via live view, size is just perfect, the menu system is quite good, the Sensor & Images from the a7r are pretty good, it's such a pity Sony crippled the E system with too little lens support, I have the metabones VIII adaptor & the Otus 55 works very well on it, it's mostly just that lag in the viewfinder.

I've looked at the Pentax 645z & if they had a better lens line up I'de jump on board for Landscape & Portrait type Images, still nothing around quite like the 1Dx for Wildlife.

Such a shame Canon have dragged the chain on a +/- 40MP body, I do agree wholeheartedly with the comments you make on CR regards the DR of the Canon sensors versus the Nikon, I used the D800 for a while, wasn't happy at all with it, but I still keep my D3x so I can use the 14-24f/2.8, damn pity at the moment we couldn't pull the sensor out of the D810 & put it in the 5DMK III, I'm probably going to get slammed by the Canon puritanical brigade over the comment, but in my view Canon lately have been less about innovation and more about Status Quo. Real innovation seems too be coming from the likes of Sony, Pentax, Fuji etc, what would we give for the Sony 50MP sensor in a Canon 1 series body & 3 FPS, a lot.

Be nice to see Canon do a 40MP sensor, better DR or at least as good as the Nikon & drop a EVF similar to the Fujifilm  XT-1 into it, I guess this is enough to have me banned   ;) But we can dream & hope, in the meantime it's 1Dx, 5DMK III & the a7r ( I don't post the a7r Images anywhere here, it is after all a Canon centric site).

Lenses / Re: What New Lens are You Most Excited About?
« on: September 12, 2014, 10:14:30 PM »
The Otus 85 to go with my other Zeiss Lenses, then hopefully an Otus 35f/1.4.

Just don't see Canon anytime soon developing lenses that stand next to the Zeiss Lenses (15/21/55/135 & soon 85), would love Canon to develop a 14-24f/2.8 as good as the Nikon, but that also seems Pie in the Sky.

My wait for a +/- 40MP Body from Canon also seems to be part of the Pie mentioned above, love my 1 Dx, the 5DMK III is Ok, but a 36 to 45 MP Sensor that works as well as the Sony 50MP in the Pentax 645z, that's a worthwhile wait, starting to look like that old movie, "A Bridge to Far".

1D X Sample Images / Re: Any Thing shot with a 1Dx
« on: September 11, 2014, 06:42:24 PM »
1dx and 300 2.8IS

Cheerleader shot at 10,000 ISO.

Northstar, that cheerleader Image is a cracker, lovely Image.

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Zeiss Otus 1.4/85: The New World-Class Lens
« on: September 10, 2014, 08:27:33 PM »
Well Edward, you live a hard life. Using a pair of Nautilus as headphones requires a phenomenal physique :)

For those of you who have not seen these, an image is attached. People (a very few I admit) buy Moore sculptures for millions of dollars. With the Nautilus you get something just as beautiful with the additional feature of producing mind blowing sound quality. I must admit I wonder what other components you have in your sound system ...

I do not have Nautilus. I have been an electrostatic freak since I got my first Quad ESL-63s in the mid 80ties. And using them as a metaphor for lenses, my current Martin Logan speakers produce phenomenal midrange and a beautiful soundstage, at the expense of a slightly less impressive bass. A bit like an 85/1.2L II, with a phenomenal center, beautiful bokeh, but an issue with CA. I'm sure the Otus 85/1.4 will be the equivalent to the Nautilus.

I was fortunate in my timing, I was living in Indonesia at the time, the Indonesian Currency took a 60% dive against the USD  & one of the suppliers here in Jakarta had a set sitting with no Buyers, i jumped in and bought the set for 1/2 normal price. Like so much in life, it's opportunity & being in the right place at the right time.

Granger talks about it...
And now we can start drooling ...  :P

Pick mine up early November, unfortunately too late for Japan this Year.

Lenses / Re: DXOMark Reviews Zeiss Otus 85mm f/1.4
« on: September 10, 2014, 08:11:22 PM »
When I'm shooting this Lens on my 1Dx or 5DMK III or a7r (Delivery first week November because it's Australia), I'm pretty sure what DXO think, or don't think of the Lens will not be high on my thought process, I'm reasonably sure it'll be Subject, Focus, f/stop, exposure, satisfaction and a Glass of good Red.

Pricewatch Deals / Re: Preorder Zeiss Otus 85mm f/1.4 Apo Planar T*
« on: September 10, 2014, 08:04:55 PM »
I'll be curious as to the excuses well reasoned arguments that people come up with for why they 'need' this particular lens.

Why do people need a reason or "need" as you put it?
I have one word to answer that question - WIFE ;D

The solution there is simple, get one for your wife.  I mean, that sounds like a pretty good trade.



That's what I just did, back living in Australia, prices are 15% over Singapore prices, but Pre Ordered the Otus 85 in my wife's name (Singapore Passport), so after GST refund $4600 Aussie Dollars, unfortunately as Australia is just next to Mars as far as the rest of the World is concerned, Delivery first week of November, not in time for my Japan trip, but there's next year.

I've used the Storm Covers from Vortex for some time, light weight, simple design, I have 3 of these for Camera Body & Lens arrangements, 5DMK III + 24-70 & or 70-200, same for the 1Dx then a longer Cover to Handle the 200-400 or 600f/4 on either the 5DMK III or 1Dx.

Born in Australia, lived in Indonesia & Singapore for +30 Years, but just 2 months ago finally moved back to Australia, Gold Coast Queensland, only downside I've found ? no one actually speaks English anymore, they mostly seem to speak something called "Strine".

Photography Technique / Re: Manual Focusing
« on: September 08, 2014, 05:54:01 PM »
Eldar, you're not helping my Zeiss 135 f/2 lust today!  Great photo and what a beautiful horse and farm.  Also, I was just looking through the 1D X manual and see that the Ec-S screen is not fully supported (beyond fitting in the camera).  I have one on the way now, and I'm not worried about it based on your & Edward's comments, but take a look at what it says:

That's interesting mackguyver, Thanks appreciated (at some point in my life I'll start to actually read the Manuals that come with this gear, or keep reading CR, which is easier).

I've not found any need as yet to apply compensation when using the Ec-S screen in the 1Dx, but having said that I set Manual Exposure 100% of the time when using the Zeiss Lenses, and about 50% of the time I use a Sekonic 758DR or more recently the Sekonic 478DR. When I have the time & compare Exposure between the Sekonics & the 1Dx on Auto, there's invariably some difference, but not to the point that exposure adjustments in Auto really make the expense of the Sekonics a must, I just like using the Sekonics I guess.

To the point I recently purchased the Sekonic C500R, not sure it's helped but it's techy enough to keep me interested.

Also, Nice Horse Image Eldar, they have big teeth & often bad attitude as well, worth shooting.

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Zeiss Otus 1.4/85: The New World-Class Lens
« on: September 08, 2014, 05:32:05 PM »
Folks, you are comparing this lens to all the wrong stuff!

A Koetsu Coralstone Platinum Phono Cartridge is $14.950, but an Ortofon Quintet MC cartridge goes for $299 and plays the same LPs

Ch. Mouton Rothschild 1945 is $23.000 (last Christie´s auction), but a Mouton Cadet 2011 shares part of the name and goes for $6.99

A black premium 14mm Mikimoto pearl is $2.000, but a synthetic black pearl you´d take for the real thing (if the girl is pretty enough) is $3.50.

A Leica APO-Macro-Summarit-S 120mm f/2.5 CS Lens is $8.495, but of course it has AF ...

The list can be made a lot longer and when you have made enough of these comparisons, you´ll end up thinking $4500 is a bargain ;)

Love it, have another to add that works for me.

Bower & Wilkins Nautilus speakers cost $90,000 a pair, a pair of Shure earphones cost $500, each have their place in the Market, I own the Nautilis speakers & enjoy them immensely, my son owns the Shure earphones & enjoys them immensely, he will never convince me we are listening to the same quality of music, how far apart are we, pretty sure it's not $85,500 apart but that's not the point, it's what you are prepared to outlay for that little bit (in this case, a lot) of upside. Although he does have a good point when he suggests the Nautilis speakers would look a bit ridiculous strapped to the sides of my Head.

Those that can afford the Otus 85, and feel it has a part to play in their Photography, will outlay the money & based on my own experience of the Otus 55, are likely to be Happy with the decision, those that can't afford the Otus will either quietly decide it's not for them & enjoy their Canon 85f/1.2 (or wait for Sigma to produce the 85 Art), while others will drop verbal bricks from a great height on the Otus for no other reason than, it's "expensive".

But for those People fortunately there is Sigma, and of course Sigma doesn't go overboard with the Marketing Blurb, do they ??

But what about the future? Unless Canon has utterly lost the plot they will have a D810 res sensor out soon. With this test we know how the Canon lenses would compare vs. Nikon with all sensors.

And this is where I believe this sort of testing is beneficial, at some point one of the manufactures other than Sony (a7r) will develop a +/- 50 MP Body with an interchangeable Lens arrangement, giving Photographers the opportunity to use the Lens line up that best suits their work at any given Lens Length, you may well find you have a collection of Canon, Nikon, Zeiss etc lenses that just do the job better than say all Canon, or all Nikon.

On wether or not Canon have lost the plot ?? seems to me they may have, perhaps they missed the need for a an a7r/D800/Pentax 645z type sensor in the Market, also seems to me enough people out there are buying into this MF DSLR arrangement, perhaps just not enough to convince Canon to get on the Hay Cart, in the meantime I'm sure Sony, Nikon, Pentax etc are quite happy with the status quo, unfortunately, I'm not, but then I'm not unhappy enough to seriously consider a switch, for now.

I think the guy just made a "typo" in the header, probably jumped the gun to get some forward advertising out there before anyone else regards an ebook ready to go.

The 7D has been a pretty good seller for Canon, and remains so, not a chance of a snow flake in hell Canon would jeopardise this Market by switching their flagship crop sensor to FF.

The nonsense on the amalgamation of the FF 1Ds line & the 1.3 crop 1DMK IV to the FF 1Dx was a somewhat different story, seems to have worked well for Canon, pity in my view, I like the 1.3 Crop on the 1DMK IV, but it was done to get back to basics, FF + 1.6 Crop.

If the Sigma 50 Art had a decent AF, I agree that it would be competitor. But it is so inconsistent that I found it useless. So, after having tried 2 copies, I returned it and will not buy another Sigma until it is documented that they have AF that works and a quality control to rely on.

I tend to agree, although I do have the Sigma 35 Art & I'm relatively happy with this Lens, I passed on the 50 Art due to the large amount of complaints there seemed to be regards the AF inconsistency, and like yourself Eldar I've set up one of my 1Dx bodies permanently with the Ec-S screen and have just adapted to the Zeiss manual focus to the degree that I pretty well only use the Zeiss Lenses now, except for situations where the subject is likely to move quickly, gives you an appreciation of how just how good the "old" school Photographers were getting the Images they did with only MF lenses.

I agree also your comments re the Canon 85f/1.2 L is a wonderful Lens, and on the 1Dx reasonable AF, but it is slow and I feel the Zeiss Otus 85f/1.4 will be a step forward, we'll see once it hits the Shops.

1D X Sample Images / Re: Any Thing shot with a 1Dx
« on: September 07, 2014, 05:31:55 PM »
I think he saw me taking is photo!

400mm @ f2.8, 1/1000. ISO 640.

Nice one Menace, these Guys look slow, but they don't miss much, Africa's most dangerous animal.

The Cousin with the pointy end, 1Dx & 300f/2.8 II @ f/8

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