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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Can someone help me with low light settings
« on: October 06, 2012, 12:24:32 PM »
From my own experience, if it is dark enough, the flash light dominates the exposure for the foreground, so 1/10-1/30 sec can be used to light up the background a bit and still get a sharp foreground image...

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon EOS-M Begins Shipping
« on: October 06, 2012, 10:37:31 AM »
That's discouraging. I was really hoping for at least competent performance out of the M.

Even then, the price seems a bit high for what it can do. it's definitely making me have second thoughts. In any case, I've decided to move ahead with the 5D purchase instead.

That said, I would rather formal tests with hard numbers that tells us exactly how long it takes to focus on average.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Once you go "L" you'll never go back....
« on: October 06, 2012, 10:27:03 AM »
I look at it this way: Every camera has its limits. Lower-cost cameras (and phone cams) tend to have much tighter limits than professional-level models, for example. But- if you learn those limits and work within them, you can get great shots with anything.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Options for 60D upgrade/replacement?
« on: October 03, 2012, 04:34:19 PM »
Pulled the trigger on that 5D3 + 24-105 combo that was posted earlier. Hopefully all goes well and I'll have the new camera next week! Thanks for your comments. I can sell my copy of the lens and make up the difference.  I also want the 24-70 (new one)...17-55 is on ebay, and the 35 might have to go too...we'll see.

Unfortunately the 24-70 they had at the store seemed to be meh compared to the one I played around with a couple of days ago, which was a WOW... so I'll wait for new ones.  (QC issues for a $2K lens? Seriously??)

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon EOS-M Begins Shipping
« on: October 02, 2012, 05:41:16 PM »
Like I posted in the other thread, photo samples can be viewed on Flickr:

http://www.flickr.com/search/?s=rec&ss=2&w=all&q=%22eos+m%22&m=text

I have to say a couple of (not-so-good) things stand out to me:

1) Distortion/curvature. For a 22mm (35mm) lens it seems to have quite a bit of it?

2) IQ doesn't seem to be QUITE on DSLR level (but still a step up from P&S). Maybe it's the optics of the EF-M lenses which may not be quite as good as the DSLR versions, but...not blown away by the performance.

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Lenses / Re: 24-70 MK II or 70-200 MK II?
« on: September 30, 2012, 11:36:19 AM »
The equivalents on APS-C are 15-44mm and 44-125mm.

Pretty sure your math is backwards.  Crop focal lengths would be 38-112mm, and 112-320mm for the 24-70mm and 70-200mm respectively.

No, that's right too. Comes out to be the same thing, perspective wise. A good indicator for exactly how much reach one would lose when going to FF. 24mm is fine for me on 1.6x but is significantly wider on FF (which would actually make it usable indoors in small rooms). Consequently I think the 24-105 becomes 15-66 from an APS-C perspective, which seems like a decent range for a walkaround. 105mm even on APS-C is too short for many shots (at least for me). Would be interesting to see the perspective of the 70-200 on FF though. Seems like the 70mm end would be MUCH more useful (I find it awkward on 1.6x)...but obviously would have to get quite a bit closer on the long end, which is fine for events I guess, but bad for sports.

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EOS Bodies / Re: New Canon EOS-M
« on: September 29, 2012, 05:22:44 PM »
The camera was released today in Japan, and sample pics from new owners are starting to appear on Flickr...check 'em out:

http://www.flickr.com/search/?s=rec&ss=2&w=all&q=%22eos+m%22&m=text

ETA: Looks like it's capable of some very nice results if you put a good lens on it...

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Upgrading from 500D to 5D Mark 2 or 3
« on: September 29, 2012, 11:55:06 AM »
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Also minimum focus distance is longer for a given field of view (for example, 50mm on APS-C focuses much closer than an 85mm lens on full frame)

Ah, interesting. Never thought about this possibility...makes sense though.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Options for 60D upgrade/replacement?
« on: September 29, 2012, 02:09:17 AM »
I was actually quite amazed w/60D's AF performance at the last show, especially given the crappy show lighting the AF system had to deal with, with skaters constantly out of spotlight and all. My thinking is, if the 60D's basic 9-point system could handle that, I can only imagine what the advanced 5D/1DX focus system is capable of...implement this in a 7D2 and we'll be all set!

But I think for now the 60D does what I want it to do in terms of this type of use. I don't do it often, and I don't get paid so it's not a travesty if I miss a few shots. For events/general photography I would welcome the better IQ/high ISO performance of a FF camera. It would be nice to keep the 60D as well

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Lenses / Re: what filter for my first "L" Lens
« on: September 28, 2012, 06:52:01 PM »
I like the Hoya Super HMC series filters, that's what I use.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Options for 60D upgrade/replacement?
« on: September 28, 2012, 10:44:56 AM »
Interesting. I agree that the 70-200 can be awkward (especially at the 70mm end) on the 60D...the shots it has enabled me to get, though, are just phenomenal. Love that lens! And it has good range for sports/action as well when you are right on the sidelines. I still think the lens is far too big/heavy for general walkaround use though. 70-300L is better for that.

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The lowlight usability of the 5D3 is just nuts by comparison.  With the 60D I was always trading slowing the shutter and opening the aperture to try and maintain a 100-800 iso.  I checked my Aperture library and only have two keepers above 1600 iso from the 60D.  With the 5D3 I dont even think about noise until I get to 12800.  And after pixel peeping some keepers in the 12800-25600iso range, I have to say its not just the amount of noise...its the TYPE of noise.  The noise in the 5D3 is soo much less distracting that the 60D.  Cant emphasize that enough.  The noise in the 5D3 typically looks more "artistic" than the 60D, much like film grain and less like the 60Ds "video camera" noise look.

Yup, just found out for myself yesterday after taking test shots on my memory card. Nothing short of amazing.

60D's (and T2i's) metering is often all over the place. 5D3 seemed to slightly underexpose (more or less consistently) when I tried it though?

The key to all this is that I think the biggest difference will come in amount of time spent in PP. I constantly have to adjust WB, exposure (minor), sharpness, and noise levels for shots. With the Raw files I took with the 5D I think only one of the ones that turned out needed adjustment. BIG difference.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Options for 60D upgrade/replacement?
« on: September 28, 2012, 01:56:50 AM »
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Just curious, if AF is 2nd most critical next to IQ, why do you think the EOS-M would be better than the T2i?

Actually, that is fulfilling a different need (a need for something compact, yet high quality). I think the EOS M uses the hybrid live-view focus mode so I'd expect it to be more accurate, if a bit slower. I don't imagine it would be any slower than my P&S, which can already take a couple seconds in dark settings...but the IQ upgrade (and the additional photographic controls) would be welcome by me.

As for the 5D3, went to play with one again at the store. Love it more and more. This time, actually got a decent lens (Sigma 50 1.4 I think) put on it. Ran some tests at high ISO and tested the AI Servo a bit. wow is all I can say. Up to 6400 perfectly usable. Even 12,800 is usable although quality degradation is visible. This alone would be a HUGE upgrade over the 60D which just squeaks by at 3200. Also, 5D photos appear much cleaner and more crisp when compared to my 60D (except for shots at ISO 12800 and 25600). 60D/APS-C has a more "digitized" look in comparison IMO. The Servo performance was just ok, perhaps even mildly disappointing- but I've seen how complicated the AF system is so perhaps have to spend time tuning it. The lens being 3rd-party might also have something to do with it. I bet/hope it would be better with Canon's L lenses. (As an aside, I ran into a really strange yellow banding issue I've never seen before, but apparently it was caused by the store's fluorescent lighting tubes)

Yeah, so if I can get a deal on the thing...might go for it. I've decided that EVENTUALLY it will get done (upgrade to FF)...but there are some lens changes that have to be made (give up 17-55 for 24-70, replace 35 with 50) and with the 5D3 price, can't afford to do it all at once. Looks like the 24-70 isn't even widely available yet anyway...store didn't have any, and haven't really found any on the net.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5Diii pink picture problem
« on: September 27, 2012, 07:38:52 PM »
EDIT: Nevermind, I figured out what happened. Sounds like the lighting was the issue and not the camera...so weird because I've NEVER seen it before...(but that's a relief)

original post below
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Played with a 5D3 in the store today and noticed something very weird...just wondering if 5D3 owners have run across this one:

Shooting in fluorescent lighting (what the store had), seemed to occur at higher ISOs (3200+) there was a weird yellowish cast across over part of the photo. It was usually across the bottom ~1/4 but it's occasionally in other parts of the photo as well. Very odd...was wondering if it was the white balance or something...even in RAW can't seem to fix the color cast since it's only in 1/4 to 1/3 of the pic... maybe it's isolated to the store model or something, but I've NEVER seen this before on either the T2i or my 60D (or any other camera I've shot with)


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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Updrade a 550D to ...? Advice needed please
« on: September 27, 2012, 02:35:49 PM »
A used 60D would seem to be the answer to your question. I went the same route- a T2i (550D) to 60D. It's not a night & day difference, but there are little things that you might appreciate (beefier grip, quicker access to key settings via the top screen among other things)

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 60D actually doesn't need AFMA?
« on: September 27, 2012, 02:32:31 PM »
Just to point out, though...AFMA also applies to the focus confirmation for manual focus.
We discussed that as well.  He commented that his 50 f/1.2L had back focus, which translates to imprecise focus with the focus confirmation.  His preference was to use the precision focusing screen; he did not pay attention to the focus confirmation.

His 50L might have had back focus, but might not.  What it does have is focus shift, which is back focus when you stop down from wide open, that varies with the aperture selected.

Anyone know if this problem has been fixed (or how it performs on the newest bodies like the 5D3)? While contemplating my move to FF, I've been thinking about trading in 35 1.4 for the 50 to get equivalent FOV.

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