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I went to the store of a major retailer that also runs a major online camera/electronics site (One Call) at 1:00 PST, and they did not know what the camera was going to retail at, nor what dealer cost is going to be. The sales guy checked their internal pricing data base and could only tell me "it may be around $3500" retail. That may be where it ends up, but he clearly did not know for sure even now. He didn't invite me to "preorder" at that price, even though he knows I'm a serious buyer.

You're talking about one salesman at a shop, and I'm sure he'll tell you tomorrow that you can preorder for $3500.  And do you have a personal relationship with these people or are you just another customer walking into a photo store?  Is this store one of the 17 stores that Canon chose to carry the C300?

In my situation, I know the people at the shop very well, and have spent over $20k there in the last year.  They are also the biggest canon dealer in Georgia.  They didn't invite me to do anything, I went in there with $4k and demanded that I get one of the first ones they get.  They wouldn't take my money, but they put me on the list.  I asked if they thought it might be any cheaper or more expensive, and they said no, not to worry because they already had the SKU in the computer for it, $3499.99.

People have been saying $3500 all over the web and they said the same thing, meaning that is the set price until proven otherwise.  I go to the shop, and they say $3500.  If that's not enough for someone to believe that it's going to be $3500, they must really really want it to be cheaper.  See when you really want something, you'll cling onto any little shred of evidence that you may be right.  Even if you read 10 articles contradicting your belief, you'll only focus on the one article you found just to hold on to that little piece of hope.  It's called confirmation bias, and if you have a brain this affects you, and that's ok, it affects me too.  But in this situation I am indifferent, if it cost $4000 I wouldn't care, and if it cost $3000 I wouldn't care. 

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I'm sure it will, it's just a question of when, maybe Xmas 2012?  But hell if you can pay $3300 you should be able to pay $3500.

Do you work for Canon?

Nope, just an educated guess based on the information available.  I'm certain about the $3500 price tag, but any guess I make about the price coming down is as good as yours, just speculation.

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The listing of "RAW" between all the other video formats is very curious, I agree that without the JPEG listing, it seems to suggest a RAW format for video. I would consider this to be groundbreaking....

As others have stated, it seems there is something missing... perhaps it could be 720 RAW? Anyone know the bitrate on 720 RAW video? My guess is it would easily fall under the performance capabilities of certain UDMA 6 and 7 cards available now.

If the 5Diii does shoot RAW video, I think most DSLR videographers would agree this would justify the price. If not...then $3500 is going to be a stretch. You could buy a 7D and 5Dii for that. Im hopeful...

Time will tell- its going to be a long day waiting....ugh...

Considering the patent for RAW video was submitted almost 2 years ago, I think this is very likely.  And I agree it does seem strange that JPEG isn't listed and the fact that all the other formats listed are movie formats makes me think that it may have raw video.  Perhaps they'll have some external storage solution...

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III Full Spec List?
« on: March 01, 2012, 05:10:21 PM »
Seriously... has Canon introduced full-time AF (autofocus) during video shooting starting from 5D Mark III ? I have been longing for this feature for a couple years now.

I highly doubt it, there are too many situations that you would want manual control for that.  I do suspect there are some video features that we don't know about just yet, as the spec list didn't talk much about that aspect of it.

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I'm hoping the MSRP will come down even a couple of hundred bucks?? :-\

I'm sure it will, it's just a question of when, maybe Xmas 2012?  But hell if you can pay $3300 you should be able to pay $3500.

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Dang, I was hoping the $3500 was an error and it was going to be $3000 or less.   :(   Well I can't afford one now anyway even if it is $2500.  If figure I'm a year away and hopefully the price will slide below 3K.  Maybe there will a less expensive version without video.

There is, it's called the 5D Mark II  ;)  But seriously I'm sure the price will come down by Christmas time. 


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Also everyone needs to take the weakness of the US dollar into account, it definitely isn't what it was in 2008.  I think they are just trying to be safe in case the currency exchange gets any weaker.

And plus, you're still getting a camera with specs that are not trailing too far behind the 1DX, but for over $3000 less!

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That could've been a place holder price put in by the store itself.. possibly based on rumor... you never know

Nope, it wasn't.  They got the SKU last night and he said that is definitely the final price.  These guys have a great relationship with Canon and I have a great relationship with them.  Plus the guy that gave me the price got absolutely no information from the web, that price was solely based on the SKU they have for it. 

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Can someone please find the correct answer to the following;

1. which kit lens is coming with the 5D3? are there going to be 2 kits?
2. if the price of the body is $3499 then how much will the kit be?
3. how can one justify a $1500 increase on body only? $2000 vs $3500

It's not fair to compare the current price of the 5DII.  The 5DII was $2700 initially so really the difference is $800.

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Did they mention a delivery date?

He said he wasn't sure but he should know tomorrow and if not definitely by Monday.

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EOS Bodies / Re: The new 5D Mark III ?!?! PICS!
« on: March 01, 2012, 02:43:08 PM »
Just preordered mine, price is definitely $3499, they already had an SKU for it.  I was 4th on the list, which is crazy considering it hasn't even been announced yet.

Where did you pre-order from?

Showcase Inc in Atlanta, probably the biggest Canon dealer in GA.  They are one of the 17 dealers getting the C300.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III Full Spec List?
« on: March 01, 2012, 02:32:37 PM »

First, we dont know price, it's unknown until it really hits retail sites... secondly, you want objective comparisons of A) a camera that isn't RELEASED and B) a camera that isn't even announced.  Just looking at pure specs... AF advantage Canon, Metering/Tracking advantage unknown, MP advantage Nikon/maybe/depends/we will see, AF Pop-up flash advantage Nikon/depending if you pro/con pop up flash, FPS advantage Canon, IQ advantage unknown, is this what you are looking for?  Wait at least until tonight when we get the full scope and can compare paper to paper, but then again, we wont fully know until we get tests of production models... it's a pointless comparison right now.

I know the price, it's $3499.  I just went to my local store and preordered it, they already had an SKU.

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EOS Bodies / Re: The new 5D Mark III ?!?! PICS!
« on: March 01, 2012, 02:31:04 PM »
Just preordered mine, price is definitely $3499, they already had an SKU for it.  I was 4th on the list, which is crazy considering it hasn't even been announced yet.

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EOS Bodies / Just preordered the 5DIII, price is definitely $3499.99
« on: March 01, 2012, 02:26:16 PM »
As soon as I heard it was for sure I ran over to one of the biggest Canon dealers in GA, they already had an SKU for it and it's most definitely $3499 body only.  I figured I would be first on the list, but I'm actually 4th, but I dont really care since I'll still get one from the first shipment.  Nice to see Canon dealers acknowledging it's existence   8)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Pics of the Grip
« on: March 01, 2012, 01:58:21 PM »
Yes, the pics of that guy on he safari were definitely the 5diii and the joystick was visible.

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