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Or just carry around the 50mm. Not enough reach? Get closer. Not wide enough? Step back!
Though for travel, and if you want scenery/indoor then of course, carry the 16-35.

As for extenders, yeah- no, you'd be better off with cropping, that's right, you indefinitely lose quality
by using an extender, especially on a unsupported lens, and if you don't mind quality then
heck go get yourself a compact super zoom. And I also agree that either the 85 or 100 F2 are good alternatives.

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Lenses / Re: Bokeh confusion.
« on: December 28, 2012, 12:06:56 AM »
I like radial/swirly crazy bokeh, as long as it's smooth enough, and as the above shot isn't bad at all.
While if anything, the overexposed table top on the second shot is rather unpleasant IMO

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Lenses / Re: Do other lenses compete with the "look" of L primes?
« on: December 26, 2012, 09:35:54 AM »
A lot of the unique 'look' a lens gives is with the bokeh, how the back/foreground is rendered. Almost all the L lenses produce great bokeh, smooth with good CA control and not too much 'distortion', although this isn't necessarily true with every lens. Beyond that there's color reproduction, the L lenses bring out good colors, like reds and blues, though that's not considered so important these days as so much can be altered in post for color.
Then contrast and sharpness do help, but yeah, they don't do much in giving a certain look.

But, other lenses compete, or are just as good as the L primes. Try telling apart Sigma's 85mm to the 85L, or Sigma's 50mm to the 50L, they're very close in overall look, the only real teller is that both Ls can go F/1.2, and that has a special feel to it, and super shallow. Really, pros these days will choose L for the build quality, weather sealing and reassurance that they will work and get the job done. Sharp all around and will last a good while

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Lenses / Re: New lenses for 46mp camera?
« on: December 24, 2012, 08:20:59 AM »
can't imagine i'd ever need 46mp.. so i'd stick to what i have anyway..

I bet you couldn't imagine that you needed 12mp about 10 years ago. The worlds changing buddy, get on the train and hold on tight, or be left behind :P

Well, even today I can agree that all one ever really needs is 10mp, I rarely ever crop or even print.
But, for speciality purposes like panoramic zoom-in pics, and referencing off of a photo for modeling data, it all makes more resolution very desirable. Of course, if speed and storage aren't greatly sacrificed, then why not, as long as ISO performance, color bit data, and (everyone's favorite) DR are greatly increased as well then awesome!
And if it doesn't cost anymore than a nice new car...

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 60D Stock Levels Getting Low?
« on: December 23, 2012, 11:55:41 AM »
I went FF and never looked back... well, just a little~
There's a crop-only UWA I'd like to see if I'll ever get use out of, and if it's more sports/action I'm trying to capture and naturally the 5DII won't handle that well, then a performance crop sounds like a second body for me.
I'm fine with getting the old 5DII, but the 7D needs better ISO performance, or a 70D ?

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 60D Stock Levels Getting Low?
« on: December 23, 2012, 07:57:18 AM »
Wait... people have actually been buying the 60D??
Ok jk jk, if it weren't for the lack of AFMA I'd have one too (but only because they're dirt cheap some places).

So, a sure sign that a 70D will be announced? Or again, no one was really buying this, they had to cut the price down several stops for plenty to even get interested, and they finally gave up?

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Is it hard not to buy 3rd party lenses now?
« on: December 22, 2012, 10:47:14 PM »
In the last 12 to 24 months we've seen an array of new lenses from Tamron and Sigma that seem to be laying down the gauntlet to Canon/Nikon in the area of providing good IQ that perhaps started with the 50/1.4 from Sigma. Why the Sigma 50/1.4? Because it tests better than both the Canon and Nikon equivalents albeit, it is more expensive however when Canon replaces the 50/1.4 with a 50/1.4 IS, the Sigma will be cheaper.
I was reading up on the Sigma 50/1.4 recently.  The review on The Digital Picture (TDP) and reviews by some customers on B&H were somewhat disappointing.  I'm referring to the comments about autofocus consistency (and the Canon 50/1.4 is no champ in this either). 

TDP says, "Inconsistent focus accuracy is definitely the downside of this lens. It is possible that another copy of this lens would focus more consistently, but my guess (helped by feedback from others) is that my lens is representative of this model. Thus, unless you are primarily using manual focus or shooting at narrow apertures (f/4), I suggest buying the Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM Lens instead."

The ISO12233 chart crops on TDP suggest that the Sigma is a bit sharper, but the Imatest results in LensRentals.com's "Great 50mm Shootout" suggest that the Canon 50/1.4 is a bit sharper.  Imatest results on Photozone.de also suggest that the Canon is mostly sharper.

Ahh yes, the Canon 50mm 1.4 is indeed sharp, but ugh, the non rounded aperture blades and general rendition of the bokeh is pathetic in comparison to the Sigma, and so much CA and flaring, even at F/2.
I read that the Sigma more consistently produces welcoming creamy bokeh than the 50L, and how Sigma at least maintains circular highlights more. Then it comes down to AF accuracy, that's the reason I haven't replaced my Canon 50 yet, and then there's focus shift with the 50L, but my 50mm 1.4 utterly misses regardless of the light and camera AF, and even with the needed AFMA it doesn't quite nail the shot...

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Sigma 35 f/1.4 DG HSM First Impressions
« on: December 22, 2012, 10:34:01 PM »


The bokeh, and the odd "sigma" color pallet apparent in the galleries that me and others have mentioned are issues to consider.

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You see, if I and others can afford the top quality stuff to begin with, or at least justify paying such a high price just for the 'colors' (which, as important as color fidelity is, sounds utterly ridiculous in paying so much for in this digital age). Then there wouldn't be these competitive brands releasing such products, and frankly, doing good business.
If you've got a 35L already and are upset that people are dissing 'your' lens and don't want to feel left behind then get the Sigma for yourself, while if you're happy with the 35L then KEEP IT! Sigma is here for people like me, who can pay just enough for their new lens and not quite enough for even a used copy of Canon's 14+ year old design.
So what if there's hype, it's there for a reason, let the potential losers be disappointed and run back to Canikon and have them say "sorry, you're right, I'm never getting Sigma" and then there will be winners who produce great shots with the lens regardless.

And bokeh rendition and how good/bad it is is so subjective, if it's busy, swirly albeit still smooth and not full of CA then that's great for me (sure, busy and smooth don't always go together), but I personally like what the Sigma is producing in terms of bokeh, and after reading some blog posts from real-world pros that ditched their name brand 35mm lenses for the Sigma and report how happy they are with it (with the "yeah the colors don't pop as much, but I don't care" response), I feel fairly confident that I'll personally report back that I'll like the lens once I get it.

As for their history of poor AF, yeah, my 70-200 OS is fast and spot on, never missed, although it needed some AFMAing after I adjusted I never had to touch that, if anything my Canon 5DII that has LOUSY AF might not lock focus. Oh, but we're not talking about camera but lens AF, reason for Sigma to bring out the USB lens dock to fine adjust the lens in the future... don't know how effective that'll be but at least they're not selling-and-forgetting.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Hand on SONY RX 1.............AMAZING
« on: December 22, 2012, 11:09:38 AM »
Ken Rockwell says the color is crap, so it cannot be worth buying :)
Oh and it's $2800 BEFORE you buy either the EVF $445 or OVF $650 and the OVF is just glass - no information :(

I keep telling everyone that the Fuji X-Pro 1 + 35mm F/1.4 has better IQ than my 5D MK3 but nobody believes me :)
If this were anything but a Sony, I'd be interested.
EVF only is not much use for street photography either (I've been playing with the EVF only Fuji XE-1).

There are serious rumors Fuji is working on a FF version of it's amazing X-Trans sensor, which will positively take names.
I'll wait for that...

ET

Very true, even the lens hood costs something like $200 extra! That's where they really hope to make their cash, or some way to make buyers believe that they really cut down on a lot to make it "super cheap" at 2800, so the accessories are to compensate... or whatever...

The rumors for an FF fuji have been around, but problem is the lenses, they are all built for crop sensors, and the lens roadmap still has many lenses to come, so having to design a whole new set of lenses for a larger sensor/different system, especially when Fuji can't keep up with their own lens production (they delayed one of their wide angles in favor of putting together more zooms), doesn't seem possible. Who knows, if anyone it's Fuji that can wow us again though.
I had a Sony DSC-P30 in Ecuador, and upon return to Switzerland I bought a Sony DSC-F828 only to find out I needed some other memory cards (if I remember correctly) then I crashed it slipping out on ice under snow in early 2006 and that was it. Being amazed by the 20Ds IQ back then, I saved up for a 30D which I bought the next year. This August I got back to FF as I purchased the 5D3. Wouldn't go back to Sony again. For these same reasons as mentioned above. Not even because of better sensor tech. Canon will have to get this fixed, if they want to stay in the market. Maybe they are doing so already, while my 5D gently clicks ;-)

I'm sure Canon is working hard, I'm ready to be wowed by whatever next incarnation that 7DII or 70D will be. Since, we will surely not see any other FF camera next year, and even with my 5DII that I am every pleased with, I sometimes wish my second body were a nice crop camera.
Though at the same time, with the mirror-less cameras going strong, I don't see the point of DSLRs having cropped sensors, and now that the RX1 is out and about too... so again with Fuji, I'm waiting to see what that X200 turns out to be like!

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Sigma 35 f/1.4 DG HSM First Impressions
« on: December 22, 2012, 11:02:52 AM »
I don't recall anyone nitpicking a lens so much for it's bokeh when everything else is fab, generally the consideration for the quality of bokeh of a lens, especially at these price points and class of lenses is always there, but this must mean though that Sigma just has no other faults to look at, so everyone wants to point at something it's not the absolute best at. And talk about onion highlights? The 35L can produce those onions too!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pong0814/5596735626/#

And, unlike the Sigma, the 35L doesn't keep rounded circular highlights when stopped down if that matters for anyone.

+1

Very, very well said.

I've always complained about Canon's 8-blade apertures... you start seeing octagons in OOF highlights when you stop down even 2/3 of a stop on many of Canon's primes (e.g. the 'venerable' 85/1.2). What I hate even more is that 8-blade aperture lenses produce 8-point sunstars.

Just adding one blade gives you 18-point sunstars. AND circular OOF highlights.

Nikon's had 9-blade apertures for a while now.

What took Canon so long?

Mmm, yeah, the more I look into these things the more I wonder why I'm with Canon... well, if Sigma made competent cameras along with FF sensors then I'm lookin' at them, I'll practically be all-Sigma after I get that 35mm, just need to see if I'll keep Canon's 50 1.4

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Sigma 35 f/1.4 DG HSM First Impressions
« on: December 22, 2012, 10:58:12 AM »
i don't think this would qualify as thread jacking, but i've seen a few shots from the 50L that showed very nervous bokeh that was really a mess. so much so that photozone even pointed it out in their review. I'm not saying the 50L is a mess, i'm saying that even lenses known for their great ability can trip up sometimes. Most of the early samples i saw on the net of the sigma looked a bit nervous to me, but in my use, so far anyway i haven't seen a problem.

  BTW- and this probably is thread jacking, most people love leica bokeh, and almost everything i've seen from them is clearly a bokeh disaster, so who knows? perhaps dropping that level of cash on something can cloud your vision. hey, i made a pun, hi five!
 

Yeah! *high five*
Even Leica glass has comma and nervousness that can make anyone wonder why all the cash for a few pieces of glass.
But as for me, I love nervous background bokeh, I want a crazy vortex of light and colors! But not always, it does get quite distracting.

Photozone is right, the 50L produces crazy bokeh in the corners, and I've come across several examples of that, nervous triangles tearing apart the rest of the smooth OOF background. I've seen tons of great example with the Sig 35, and like anything, you look for trouble and you'll find it, nit pick and try and find what doesn't look good and yeah, any lens will show a flaw/something dissatisfactory to someone.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Is it hard not to buy 3rd party lenses now?
« on: December 22, 2012, 10:52:54 AM »
Ger what you need now based on what you can afford and whether or not it make the cut.
The lens communication protocol changing could happen, but that's most likely what Sigma is doing with the release of a USB lens dock, not to fine tune and adjust the AF of the lens, but to possibly update the firmware if in case Canon does such a thing.

I started on Sigma gear, I briefly went with Canon, and now I'm back to Sigma and no complaints (my Sigma 70-300 was soft, it's AF accuracy was 1/10, but it was fine as a starter lens until the AF completely died). Anyways, it's hard to say whether it's easier to buy third party lenses, because people looked at alternative brands strictly for them being cheaper. Now, they're bringing out gear that holds it's own against the big names, but of course, you spend more money and anything's possible right? The new Sig and Tammy lenses are fantastic, but are by no means affordable for the masses, while Canon is pushing the price of it's new products every time as well, so relatively Sig and Tam are still affordable.

Like with the Sig 35mm, it's not quite "wow that cheap lens maker made a lens that beats Canikon!" but rather "They decided to make a really expensive piece of glass that... no wonder, beats the older lenses".
As for resale value... well, if you're insecure and feel like you will jump over to another system and need to get all your money's worth out of your gear you're getting rid of then yeah. But at least for me, I'm buying gear to use, not eventually sell.


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EOS Bodies / Re: why my 60D is working while it is off. help me
« on: December 22, 2012, 03:34:12 AM »
It could be with the on/off switch itself, try messing with the auto power off option.
But that's just to figure out what's going on, that won't solve anything... sending it in is the best option, sorry that this is happening to a camera you just purchased, but electronics are electronics, stuff just doesn't work right sometimes

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EOS Bodies / Re: why my 60D is working while it is off. help me
« on: December 22, 2012, 12:10:38 AM »
Take the battery out and put it back in while still "off" and see?

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Lenses / Re: Sigma 50 1.4 or canon 85 1.8
« on: December 21, 2012, 10:39:49 AM »
For video use it'll even be tighter with the 16x9 aspect ratio effectively cropping the image and making the lens feel even tighter. 50mm on crop worked well for video use for me, but only a tripod, for handheld/general stuff it's rather long, a fast wide angle would better for overall use, the Samyang 35mm or 24mm are great options too if manual focus is good. But again for portraits, a 50mm works well enough

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