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EOS Bodies / Re: An EOS Canon Medium Format System [CR1]
« on: September 28, 2013, 11:54:02 PM »
I wouldn't have the confidence to rock up to a job with what outwardly looks like a P&S camera!

Not all mirrorless cameras look like P&S cameras. Here are some comparisons from Camera Size dot com

Olympus OM-D E-M1 vs Canon 7D http://camerasize.com/compare/#482,154

Fujifilm X-Pro1 vs Canon 7D http://camerasize.com/compare/#258,154

Panasonic GH3 vs Canon 7D http://camerasize.com/compare/#381,154

Sony can build a small mirrorless camera like the 24Mp NEX-7 that is not much bigger than an EOS M, Why can't Cannon give us a Pro M about the same size as the NEX-7?
Sony NEX-7 vs Canon EOS M http://camerasize.com/compare/#33,351
A Cano Pro M (with a M-mount f/1.8 85mm) plus a Canon MFD would satisfy all my needs

EOS Bodies / Re: An EOS Canon Medium Format System [CR1]
« on: September 28, 2013, 07:06:12 PM »
I've considered dropping my entire Canon kit (3 bodies, a bag full of L glass) to go with a CPO'd H4D Hasselblad for primary work and a Fuji X for a walk around camera. I'm keeping a close eye on this Canon MF news though.

Same here. But I'll buy mirrorless and rent MFD when needed.

EOS Bodies / Re: An EOS Canon Medium Format System [CR1]
« on: September 28, 2013, 06:58:05 PM »

Is there any hard evidence to support this ? I don't know any people in photography professionally who have, or intend to move to mirrorless, let alone MFD. I know many who moved from MF film to FF digital, and one who shoots MFD. The versatility of the current dSLR with live view option will take some time to improve upon.

UK Fashion Photographer Jonathan Posner http://www.jonathanposner.com/ switched from a Canon 5D2 to an Olympus OM- aD E-M5. Check-out his blog post on why he switched http://jonathanposner.tumblr.com/post/40780795719/my-olympus-challenge-10

UK Wedding Photographer Kevin Mullins uses Fuji X-Pro1 http://www.kevinmullinsphotography.co.uk/

HDR guru/author/publisher Trey Ratcliff http://www.stuckincustoms.com/ Why he switched from Nikon D800 to Sony NEX-7 http://www.stuckincustoms.com/2013/07/04/sony-nex-review-nikon-vs/

David Kai Piper is a UK photographer who uses Fuji X cameras http://www.davepiper.org.uk/

Craig Litten is a PJ and Photographer working in Florida http://www.craiglitten.com/home  “I wanted to share a recent shoot with you all taken with the Fuji X-Pro 1, 18mm, 35mm and 18-55mm lenses. The shoot was for a company called Sun Bum for their 2014 catalog ...This was my biggest shoot since switching to the X, and after two days of shooting, I didn’t even notice the weight of the cameras. Wondrous! http://www.craiglitten.com/trust-the-bum#1

Rob Knight shoots Travel, Nature and Landscape with M4/3 http://robknightphotography.com

Fashion Photographer Terry Richardson, who is known for his "snap-shot style" photos uses a Hasselblad when the job calls for it http://terrysdiary.com/post/1461509596/me-shooting-with-a-hasselblad-h2-with-a-120mm-lens

EOS Bodies / Re: An EOS Canon Medium Format System [CR1]
« on: September 28, 2013, 02:40:32 PM »
I still see this rumour as rather strange, but they say there's no smoke without fire.
I first heard this rumor way back in 2006. A salesman in a Pro Camera Shop asked me if I'd heard anything about a Medium Format Canon and wondered what lenses they would need. Could he have been conducting a survey for Canon?

Has the decline of p&s really got them looking at the other end of the market ?
I think that this is more about the decline of Full Frame DSLRs. A few professionals are abandoning their FF DSLRs for a combination of mirrorless and MFD. If this trend picks up speed Canon will already have a foothold in the market :

EOS Bodies / Re: An EOS Canon Medium Format System [CR1]
« on: September 28, 2013, 02:12:21 PM »
As long as I can true sync past 1/250th with a massive sensor. I'm in.

The Phase One Schneider 150mm f/3.5 LS (= about 100mm FF) has flash sync settings up to 1/1600.  If Canon builds MF lenses with a leaf shutter built into the lens, sync above 1/250 should not be a problem. The problem is that leaf shutter lenses are expensive. The Schneider 150mm f/3.5 LS sells for $ 5,390.00.

EOS Bodies / Re: An EOS Canon Medium Format System [CR1]
« on: September 28, 2013, 01:53:13 PM »
This makes me wonder.

Would a MF manufacturer agree to have it's lenses rebranded as Canon? If not, can Canon develop it's own MF lenses, and make a profit off of it?
Medium format lenses are very expensive. The Hasselblad kit lens (80mm f/2. 8 ) sells for $2,595.00. The HC 210mm f/4.0 (=140mm FF) is $4,195.00, the Canon EF 135mm f/2L USM is  $1,089.00 (about 1/4 the price of the comparable Hasselblad lens).  At these price levels Canon should be able to make a profit.

EOS Bodies / Re: Big Megapixel Tidbits from the Week [CR1]
« on: September 26, 2013, 11:37:20 PM »
AFAIK no Canaon DSLR lenses would work.

I believe the current TS-E lenses would work - they have very large image circles to accommodate the movements (although on MF, you'd be limited in TS capability).
90mm TS-E Image circle dia. 58.6mm
45mm TS-E Image circle dia. 58.6mm
24mm TS-E Image circle diameter   67.2mm
17mm TS-E Image circle diameter   67.2mm

The Phase One IQ2 series (60 & 80 Mp) are approx 40mmx53mm The  Diagonal is approx 66mm. Hasselblad sensors range from approx 40mmx53mm to a smaller approx 33mmx44mm (Diagonal 55mm). So it all depends on what size MF sensor Canon decides to use.

They could also do as Leica did with their S2 (45 x 30 mm sensor).
Medium format has been anything from 4.5x6cm film to 6x9cm film to today's approx 4.5x6 digital., there is no written in stone definition of Medium Format.

EOS Bodies / Re: Big Megapixel Tidbits from the Week [CR1]
« on: September 26, 2013, 04:38:47 PM »
Can you guys educate me on medium format photography?
1. What does it do better than a standard DSLR?
2. What doesn't it do as well?
3. What genres/styles of photography are better suited to medium format?
A DSLR and a Midium Format Digital (MFD) are two different tools. It's like comparing a hand held power circular saw and a table circular saw. They both cut wood 8-) MFD cameras are mainly  used for product shots, high-end portraits, architectural  and landscape. They seldom/never are used for sports or Birds in Flight (BIF).

4. Would medium format require specialized lenses or would the current EF/EF-S lenses work? (Ok, maybe not EF-S)
AFAIK no Canaon DSLR lenses would work. MFD require large and expensive lenses. The crop factor is to divide a MFD lens[ by 1.5 to get a Full Frame Equivalent, i.e. 240mm devided by 1.5 = 140mm.

Thanks everybody :)

EOS Bodies / Re: Big Megapixel Tidbits from the Week [CR1]
« on: September 26, 2013, 04:07:43 PM »
Would they not need to manufacture whole lot of new lenses of MF?

No they won't.  Phase One has lenses between 28mm (=18.6mm FF) and 150mm (=100mm FF). Hasselblad starts at 24mm (16mm FF), plus they add two longer lenses, 210mm (=140mm FF) and 300mm (= 200mm). All Canon will need at the start is a 24mm/28mm Wide Angle, an 80mm Normal (=53mm FF) and a Portrait lens 150mm/210mm.

EOS-M / Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« on: September 04, 2013, 12:01:42 PM »
I see no reason why FF would not go with mirrorless...

Neither do I - there were (are?) plenty of examples in the days of film.  Or am I missing something?

Film cameras were much lighter than today's Full Frame digital cameras. A Canon T70 weighed about 20 Oz. vs 33+ Oz for a Canon 5D3.

EOS-M / Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« on: September 04, 2013, 11:20:25 AM »

BTW not everyone wants/needs paper-thin DOF. For my advertising work I shoot a 5D3 at f/8 to f/16.

Fine, but although 85mm on APS-C gives the same FoV as 135mm on FF, the 85/1.8 on APS-C gives the DoF of ~f/2.8 for that same FoV.  If you want the equivalent of 135mm f/2 on your APS-C, you need:

3. EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM - Max. Diameter x Length, Weight 3.6" x 3.3", 2.3 lbs. / 91.5 x 84.0mm, 1025g

...and the 135L on FF will give you better IQ than the 85L II on APS-C.

What's so hard to understand? I shoot my advertising work at f/8 to F/16 with a 5D3. Clients like their customers to get a clear view of their product, not some arty blur.

IQ, you've got to be kidding, I've shot ads with a 40D using an F/1.8 85mm lens set at f/16. Were not talking about HUGH prints, just full page magazine work (print = about 150 DPI). If I was interested in High IQ I'd shoot chromes with my 4x5 or rent an 80Mp MFD (with a 240 mm LS f/4.5 IF leaf shutter lens.).

Different strokes for different folks!

EOS-M / Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« on: September 04, 2013, 10:04:14 AM »
But Sony is going to release a FF mirrorless.

Full Frame and mirrorless don't go together. An 85mm lens on an APS-C and a 135mm lens on FF have the same Field Of View. One of the BIG selling points of  mirrorless is small & light. Hanging a BIGGER FF lens on a smaller mirrorless body kills that advantage.

1. EF 85mm f/1.8 USM - Max. Diameter x Length, Weight   3.0" x 2.8", 15.0 oz. / 75.0 x 71.5mm, 425g

2. EF 135mm f/2L USM - Max. Diameter x Length, Weight   3.2" x 4.4", 1.7 lbs. / 82.5 x 112.0mm, 750g

BTW not everyone wants/needs paper-thin DOF. For my advertising work I shoot a 5D3 at f/8 to f/16.

BTW2 This is where advertising is headed ... shallow DOF need not apply http://nitrogr.am/blog/armani-instagram-ads/

EOS-M / Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« on: September 03, 2013, 06:04:19 PM »

I think we need to remember that we just got the SL, which sounds a lot like what c.d.embrey is looking for.

No, I'm NOT looking for the SL (I wouldn't take one as a gift). When the SL was a rumor I was hoping for a digital EOS IX http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/camera/film/data/1996-2000/1996_eos-ix-e.html?lang=us&categ=crn&page=1996-2000&p=1 An APS-C film camera that used EF lenses.

For a mirrorless the Sony NEX-6 comes closet to what I want.

EOS-M / Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« on: September 03, 2013, 05:46:01 PM »

To me, that sounds like bigger.  In the case of the M, I don't think bigger is better.

A Sony NEX-6 isn't much larger and it has a man sized hand grip http://camerasize.com/compare/#375,351

EOS-M / Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« on: September 03, 2013, 10:18:01 AM »
I'd be interested in an M with a built-in EVF. A camera with an awkward  hot-shoe EVF just doesn't cut-it with someone who uses a lot of fill flash. 

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