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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS M Vanishes from Canon USA Web Site
« on: May 30, 2014, 04:05:25 AM »
The prediction above was that all pros will be using small format cameras (smaller than full frame) and that only hobbyists will use full frame, and that this would happen in the not too distant future.  The past does not tell us that.  If the march to smaller formats were so inevitable, then NO commercial or landscape photographer would be using medium format today.  They would have all moved to full frame or smaller.  That's obviously not not true, as many continue to use medium format, as do some  portrait photographers.  Likewise they won't all move to smaller than full-frame in the near or not too distant future.

There was a time that Wedding photographers uses mostly Medium Format, etc for weddings. Then it's mostly 35mm. Nowadays there's even people that's doing paid weddings via Fuji or M43. Some will stay at 35mm of course. But MILCs are now getting to a point that some are willing to bet their livelihood on them. Whether cropped cameras will replace FF as the predominant format for various professional work (not for all of them, just as Medium Format still exists), only time will tell. But it can be assured that as cropped systems become better and better that more and more will adopt it for paid work.

Well, I agree with all of that as it's a reasonable, realistic assessment.  I disagree with c.d embrey's claims that "In the not-to-distant-future only hobbyists will use Full Frame, and pros will have moved-on to smaller formats."  Some hobbyists, yes.  Some pros, yes.  But it's too much of a blanket statement to be true for everybody.  Full frame and optical viewfinders have a lot of appeal for pros, and pros have *very* diverse needs.  EVFs and small formats are great, but they don't meet everyone's needs all of the time.  I'm using 3 formats for paid work and finding each is good in its way.

Since the beginning of photography pros have always moved-on to smaller formats. Really large format cameras were replaced by 8x10 cameras which were replaced by 4x5.

At one time there were 6x9, 6x8, 6x7 and 6x6 medium format film cameras. Then these camera were mostly replaced by 6x4.5 film cameras, which were replaced by 6x4.5 digital. But that doesn't stop Martin Schoeller from shooting covers for Time magazine with 120 film, using a Fuji rangefinder camera (Texas Leica).

Like it or not One Inch cameras are good enough for many pro jobs right now. By the time that the iPhone 7 comes along there will be an App that triggers strobes (just like a Pocket Wizard) And there will be young pros shooting with an iPhone and Profoto strobes ;)

There are some hobbyists (and a few pros) shooting 8x10 cameras. Other hobbyist ares shooting panoramas with 4x10 cameras instead of stitching digital. There are also a few people using Banquet Cameras (7x17 in. and 12x20 in.) Nothing in photography ever truly goes away. The Impossible Project is bringing back 8x10 Polaroid  https://www.the-impossible-project.com/8x10/  Me, I'd like to see them bring back Type 55 film. BTW in the future there will be hobbyists added to this group who will use Medium Format and Full Frame ;)

Heraclitus (c. 535 BC – 475 BC) is reputed to have said: "There is nothing permanent except change." Sounds reasonable to me. YMMV.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS M Vanishes from Canon USA Web Site
« on: May 29, 2014, 05:08:22 PM »

Why?  Such general pronouncements are baffling.  How does someone presume to know what all pros in all areas of photography will do in the future? 


All you have to do is look at the past. When was the last time you saw a Photo Journalist using a 4x5 camera ??? A Sports Shooter using a Hasselblad ??? The list goes on and on. The New York Times and Sports Illustrated have both used iPhone photos. Like I said "time marches on!"

BTW there are still people shooting wet plate on large format cameras. Nothing ever goes completely away  ;)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS M Vanishes from Canon USA Web Site
« on: May 29, 2014, 11:33:29 AM »
Full Frame and Optical Viewfinders are the past. APS-C/DX, M4/3 and One Inch cameras with EVF are the future.

In the not-to-distant-past Full Frame 35mm cameras where called Miniature Cameras, and most professionals didn't use them. In the not-to-distant-future only hobbyists will use Full Frame, and pros will have moved-on to smaller formats.

Did I hear someone whining about bokeh?? Bokeh will be handled by the camera, sorta like custom white balance is today -- just dial in how little or how much you want.

Time marches on!




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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS M Vanishes from Canon USA Web Site
« on: May 27, 2014, 08:58:44 PM »

Don't underestimate micro 4/3rds or Fuji or Sony. 


Got that right. For those that think you can't get good bokeh with M4/3, check-out Robin Wong's work with a 75mm f/1.8 http://robinwong.blogspot.com  How to Box a Chicken and Portrait of a Stranger, they look good to me.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS M Vanishes from Canon USA Web Site
« on: May 27, 2014, 08:49:12 PM »
40mm pancake is a great lens. I'm sure Canon shooters won't mind adding few more to their kit. UWA pancake - like 19mm would be awesome.

Yes! I would love to see more small primes in the EOS system.  For example, I love the tiny size of the SL1, but how about some more small lenses for it?

For me the main attraction of mirrorless is the lack of an optical viewfinder. When I got my NEX 5n (2011), one of the things that impressed me was the WYSIWYG nature of the screen. Good enough to set exposure. Sometime later, Austin Tx Pro Kirk Tuck, coined the word pre-chimping. There is no way I'll ever buy a camera without an EVF. YMMV.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS M Vanishes from Canon USA Web Site
« on: May 27, 2014, 11:48:12 AM »
Hello Kitty Kameras don't sell well in the USA! There should have been a Pro M from the start. Canon could have given us an A6000, an X-Ti, a GH4, or an OM-D E-M1, but they choose not too.

I've been using Canon cameras/lenses for over twenty years -- but no more. Cameras are just tools, and for me, Canon doesn't make the best tools any more. I'm keeping my Full Frame Film Elan 7n, but all of the DSLRs have already left the building.

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EOS Bodies / Re: An EOS Canon Medium Format System [CR1]
« on: September 28, 2013, 11:54:02 PM »
I wouldn't have the confidence to rock up to a job with what outwardly looks like a P&S camera!



Not all mirrorless cameras look like P&S cameras. Here are some comparisons from Camera Size dot com

Olympus OM-D E-M1 vs Canon 7D http://camerasize.com/compare/#482,154

Fujifilm X-Pro1 vs Canon 7D http://camerasize.com/compare/#258,154

Panasonic GH3 vs Canon 7D http://camerasize.com/compare/#381,154

Sony can build a small mirrorless camera like the 24Mp NEX-7 that is not much bigger than an EOS M, Why can't Cannon give us a Pro M about the same size as the NEX-7?
Sony NEX-7 vs Canon EOS M http://camerasize.com/compare/#33,351
A Cano Pro M (with a M-mount f/1.8 85mm) plus a Canon MFD would satisfy all my needs

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EOS Bodies / Re: An EOS Canon Medium Format System [CR1]
« on: September 28, 2013, 07:06:12 PM »
I've considered dropping my entire Canon kit (3 bodies, a bag full of L glass) to go with a CPO'd H4D Hasselblad for primary work and a Fuji X for a walk around camera. I'm keeping a close eye on this Canon MF news though.

Same here. But I'll buy mirrorless and rent MFD when needed.

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EOS Bodies / Re: An EOS Canon Medium Format System [CR1]
« on: September 28, 2013, 06:58:05 PM »

Is there any hard evidence to support this ? I don't know any people in photography professionally who have, or intend to move to mirrorless, let alone MFD. I know many who moved from MF film to FF digital, and one who shoots MFD. The versatility of the current dSLR with live view option will take some time to improve upon.

UK Fashion Photographer Jonathan Posner http://www.jonathanposner.com/ switched from a Canon 5D2 to an Olympus OM- aD E-M5. Check-out his blog post on why he switched http://jonathanposner.tumblr.com/post/40780795719/my-olympus-challenge-10

UK Wedding Photographer Kevin Mullins uses Fuji X-Pro1 http://www.kevinmullinsphotography.co.uk/

HDR guru/author/publisher Trey Ratcliff http://www.stuckincustoms.com/ Why he switched from Nikon D800 to Sony NEX-7 http://www.stuckincustoms.com/2013/07/04/sony-nex-review-nikon-vs/

David Kai Piper is a UK photographer who uses Fuji X cameras http://www.davepiper.org.uk/

Craig Litten is a PJ and Photographer working in Florida http://www.craiglitten.com/home  “I wanted to share a recent shoot with you all taken with the Fuji X-Pro 1, 18mm, 35mm and 18-55mm lenses. The shoot was for a company called Sun Bum for their 2014 catalog ...This was my biggest shoot since switching to the X, and after two days of shooting, I didn’t even notice the weight of the cameras. Wondrous! http://www.craiglitten.com/trust-the-bum#1

Rob Knight shoots Travel, Nature and Landscape with M4/3 http://robknightphotography.com

Fashion Photographer Terry Richardson, who is known for his "snap-shot style" photos uses a Hasselblad when the job calls for it http://terrysdiary.com/post/1461509596/me-shooting-with-a-hasselblad-h2-with-a-120mm-lens

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EOS Bodies / Re: An EOS Canon Medium Format System [CR1]
« on: September 28, 2013, 02:40:32 PM »
I still see this rumour as rather strange, but they say there's no smoke without fire.
I first heard this rumor way back in 2006. A salesman in a Pro Camera Shop asked me if I'd heard anything about a Medium Format Canon and wondered what lenses they would need. Could he have been conducting a survey for Canon?

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Has the decline of p&s really got them looking at the other end of the market ?
I think that this is more about the decline of Full Frame DSLRs. A few professionals are abandoning their FF DSLRs for a combination of mirrorless and MFD. If this trend picks up speed Canon will already have a foothold in the market :




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EOS Bodies / Re: An EOS Canon Medium Format System [CR1]
« on: September 28, 2013, 02:12:21 PM »
As long as I can true sync past 1/250th with a massive sensor. I'm in.

The Phase One Schneider 150mm f/3.5 LS (= about 100mm FF) has flash sync settings up to 1/1600.  If Canon builds MF lenses with a leaf shutter built into the lens, sync above 1/250 should not be a problem. The problem is that leaf shutter lenses are expensive. The Schneider 150mm f/3.5 LS sells for $ 5,390.00.

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EOS Bodies / Re: An EOS Canon Medium Format System [CR1]
« on: September 28, 2013, 01:53:13 PM »
This makes me wonder.

Would a MF manufacturer agree to have it's lenses rebranded as Canon? If not, can Canon develop it's own MF lenses, and make a profit off of it?
Medium format lenses are very expensive. The Hasselblad kit lens (80mm f/2. 8 ) sells for $2,595.00. The HC 210mm f/4.0 (=140mm FF) is $4,195.00, the Canon EF 135mm f/2L USM is  $1,089.00 (about 1/4 the price of the comparable Hasselblad lens).  At these price levels Canon should be able to make a profit.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Megapixel Tidbits from the Week [CR1]
« on: September 26, 2013, 11:37:20 PM »
AFAIK no Canaon DSLR lenses would work.

I believe the current TS-E lenses would work - they have very large image circles to accommodate the movements (although on MF, you'd be limited in TS capability).
90mm TS-E Image circle dia. 58.6mm
45mm TS-E Image circle dia. 58.6mm
24mm TS-E Image circle diameter   67.2mm
17mm TS-E Image circle diameter   67.2mm

The Phase One IQ2 series (60 & 80 Mp) are approx 40mmx53mm The  Diagonal is approx 66mm. Hasselblad sensors range from approx 40mmx53mm to a smaller approx 33mmx44mm (Diagonal 55mm). So it all depends on what size MF sensor Canon decides to use.

They could also do as Leica did with their S2 (45 x 30 mm sensor).
Medium format has been anything from 4.5x6cm film to 6x9cm film to today's approx 4.5x6 digital., there is no written in stone definition of Medium Format.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Megapixel Tidbits from the Week [CR1]
« on: September 26, 2013, 04:38:47 PM »
Can you guys educate me on medium format photography?
1. What does it do better than a standard DSLR?
2. What doesn't it do as well?
3. What genres/styles of photography are better suited to medium format?
A DSLR and a Midium Format Digital (MFD) are two different tools. It's like comparing a hand held power circular saw and a table circular saw. They both cut wood 8-) MFD cameras are mainly  used for product shots, high-end portraits, architectural  and landscape. They seldom/never are used for sports or Birds in Flight (BIF).

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4. Would medium format require specialized lenses or would the current EF/EF-S lenses work? (Ok, maybe not EF-S)
AFAIK no Canaon DSLR lenses would work. MFD require large and expensive lenses. The crop factor is to divide a MFD lens[ by 1.5 to get a Full Frame Equivalent, i.e. 240mm devided by 1.5 = 140mm.

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Thanks everybody :)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Megapixel Tidbits from the Week [CR1]
« on: September 26, 2013, 04:07:43 PM »
Would they not need to manufacture whole lot of new lenses of MF?

No they won't.  Phase One has lenses between 28mm (=18.6mm FF) and 150mm (=100mm FF). Hasselblad starts at 24mm (16mm FF), plus they add two longer lenses, 210mm (=140mm FF) and 300mm (= 200mm). All Canon will need at the start is a 24mm/28mm Wide Angle, an 80mm Normal (=53mm FF) and a Portrait lens 150mm/210mm.

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