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EOS Bodies / Re: 60D or t4i?
« on: November 27, 2012, 04:28:15 PM »

Another thing to note, for video purposes, is that the T4i does not support Magic Lantern. The 60D does. To get all the critical elements for video shooting (focus peaking, trap focus, resolution controls, etc), you'd have to go 60D. I'm not even sure the T4i does ISO in 1/3 stops like the 60D does, which is a big deal when you need to be shooting at ISO 160/320/640/etc.

And last I checked, the 60D was as cheap as the T4i if not a little cheaper for just the body (plenty of 60D deals out there)...so, price shouldn't be an issue
Dude, she's looking for her 1st dslr, she isn't going to install magic lantern, Af, and simple features on a rebel will due her well.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon's roadmap
« on: November 25, 2012, 09:50:25 PM »
Wow, almost 40 people are unhappy with Canon's releases this year. I guess they are about to go broke.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon's roadmap
« on: November 25, 2012, 03:33:37 PM »
A few thoughts about the poll options:   

an overpriced ff 6d package — wait 6 months to a year for the real price.

tons of expensive is primes — expensive primes are good primes, cheap one usually aren't; the new primes were eagerly awaited by many photographers; the real prices will be lower than the introductory prices.

a 24-70f4 is costing about $1,500 — high quality costs, but wait 6 months to a year for the real price; and the popular 24-105/4L is still available.

the pro l L primes are loosing to new zooms(24-70's), and the new Sigma lenses are coming out on top! (35mm 1.4) — pro L primes get replaced with better versions gradually (24/1.4 II, 85/1.2 II) but then people complain about the price; zooms and primes aren't in a war with one winning and one losing; they each have their advantages notwithstanding any particular updates in any particular year.

a very nice 1dx, but the extermination of a pro crop censor for wild life shooters. — 1.4X TC solves that problem; the 1DX has other benefits which outweigh any advantage of a 1.3X crop factor; wildlife shooters did very well before the 1.3X crop factor existed and will be OK after it doesn't.

2new rebels in 1 year with a third on the way — Rebels are fine inexpensive cameras; lots and lots of people like them and are happy to see more.

a curious mirror less eos m, with a second camera on the way, and only 2 lenses — Canon has to start somewhere in the mirrorless market; of course there will be more and better cameras and lenses on the way; no manufacturer has introduced a rich, full system all at once.

The combination of the 60d and the 7d, to make a combo, giving ameutures and pro's the same camera, no seperation — I don't understand the problem here, especially with eleven dslr's in the current product line.

The apparent idea of combining all the aps-c cameras, where all pros would have to move to ff, and soccer moms would get 20mp, 10fps, and a pro body and not to mention some crappy ef-s zoom — not clear what "combining" you're talking about; Canon currently offers eleven dslr's so if pros and amateurs can't find a suitable model, they must search elsewhere.

The 3d/4d talk, but no results — model names in rumor talk are meaningless; the results are the 5DIII and 6D and whatever models come next year and the year after that; and with eleven dslr's in the current model line what is missing?  I suppose a high-mp body, but surely that will come.

No word and long postponement of the 14-24 l and 200-400 — lenses are released when they are ready; meanwhile other great lenses are being released.

Canon is leaving the amateurs in the dark with no 7d ii or 70d, and no new ef-s lenses — new models are being introduced every year or two; just because something new doesn't get introduced this quarter doesn't mean people are "left in the dark"; again there are eleven current dslr's to choose from and 60+ lenses in the EOS system; if people "left in the dark" can't find a lens this quarter, they may be "in bright shining light" the next quarter.

In the end, there is no perfect camera company or camera system.  Something will always be missing or inadequate for someone's exact current needs.  If the grass is always greener elsewhere and the multitude of choices leave one "in the dark" and seeing doom and gloom, then maybe it's time to find another system.  I understand that some photographers may actually and urgently need a long list of new camera bodies and lenses and features that Canon isn't currently offering, but then I have to wonder why they got into the Canon system in the first place.

Thanks for the thoughts, I have my contradictions, and this could go on and on, but I'm just happy to hear new ideas :)

EOS Bodies / Re: 60D or t4i?
« on: November 25, 2012, 03:30:51 PM »
1)only the 60d is sealed, but not well enough for a downpour. Either camera could be used in a light drizzle.
2)only the t4i has video autofocus, put for photos both will work pretty much the same.
3)sadly both cameras will be discontinued in January, so there will be a new substitute for either. If you can't wait, get the t4i, it has a new processor, so it performs better, and the processor has been tested. The only issue, is that the video af is slow, and there were specific models on which the grip changed color but those were recalled and they have fixed the issue since.
4) the weight off the 60d is a bit hefty, and will weigh on you at the end of the day. The t4i will perform the same, it's just in a smaller body, it will fit in your purse without making your shoulder hurt.
5) battery life, I don't know, but will be enough either way, on a vacation, just charge it up at night and your set. The touch screen is ok, just remember it isn't a smart phone, so give the camera a second before you start clicking it rapidly over and over, it has to shift the glass for live view (LCD view) shooting.

So in conclusion, the cameras are very much the same, and you won't notice a difference in image quality. You pay for what you get, the bit of extra $$$ is just for a more solid body, if you think you're going to drop the camera accession ally, the 60d would be a worthy investment.

Lens wise, a canon 75-300 F4-5.6 or a canon 70-300 f4-5.6 is usm if you have the money, would make a great telephoto.

Standard zoom would come in a kit

60d:18-135 3.5-5.6 is

T4i: 18-135 3.5-5.6 is STM II

So again, the t4i really does everything better, it is just smaller.

But if I could choose, I'd go for the t4i with the kit lens! And with the saved money, get the 70-300. You get a smaller, lighter camera, and then you have better lenses.

Have fun shooting :)

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon's roadmap
« on: November 25, 2012, 02:56:28 PM »
Thanks for all the replies guys!
But in response to those who think I'm bashing canon, I'm not, I'm just asking opinion on where canon is going, and seeing how prices have affected, amateurs, or people with smaller incomes. Everything canon makes is top-notch, even the 6d will probably best the Nikon d600. But canon should open up more, offer cheaper 2.8s, put is in the lenses that matter, like a new 50 1.4, and think about the aps-c crowd.

EOS Bodies / Canon's roadmap
« on: November 25, 2012, 12:24:41 AM »
Canon's road through the photography world has become very bumpy, and I think many people have gotten lost.
Please help the community, and comment, add, or correct.

EOS Bodies / Re: What will be the issue with the 6D
« on: November 25, 2012, 12:01:39 AM »
I own a 60D and I actually prefer the 60D buttons (those beside the top LCD) compare to 7D buttons. One button, one function... clean and simple.  ;D

Some people or companies think that computer mice with two buttons confuse people - for me I'd like more functions to be available next to the lcd, but it's hardly essential for me.

The thing I really like about the 60d layout is that I can do nearly everything with the right hand, and I'm ok with the multicontroller (I have never used a joystick camera body) - so if the 6d builds on this Rebel-type layout it might not be pr0 but it seems to work for a lot of people, including me.

Got a little bit of a hard time when I used my friends' 60D in a party but I'd say it's not that hard to get used to it.  After around 30 mins, I got the hang of it.  True, it's easy to control it with one hand just like my 500D and that's what I'm looking for when I get my first FF camera.  I've used 5D2 but coming from 500D controls, I'd say it's a little bit harder for me to get accustomed to it since you need both of your hands.
I guess canon's buttons are like a love/hate relationship  :o

Lenses / Re: 6d Kid Lens
« on: November 24, 2012, 11:56:16 AM »
The 24-70 could be a supply and demand trick for the 24-105, they may just not produce a lot of 24-70 f4, because more people would go for the 24-10, and the prices should then even out, people would have to choose.

EOS Bodies / Re: What will be the issue with the 6D
« on: November 24, 2012, 11:49:50 AM »
Really, the only problems I have are 3 things. The wifi is small, and either won't work for long ranges, or will drain too mush battery. The gps will be like new apple maps, because, it's experimental. And lastly the buttons, the original 60d's buttons were horrible, so I'm a little upset they are throwing the 6d in a 60d body.

EOS Bodies / Re: Possible positive 6D surprise? Should I wait?
« on: November 24, 2012, 11:44:43 AM »
They are right, the 6d will have an edge, for the same reason the 1dx has better iOS, because the pixels are bigger, and gather more "stuff". Look at digital rev's 1dx video on YouTube, you will see what they're talking about.

Lenses / Re: 6d Kid Lens
« on: November 21, 2012, 08:51:34 PM »
It might end up being a kit lens, they knock off 200 or 300 if bought with a body.  The 24-105mm L is a better kit lens imho.

I think 24-105L being a better kit will entirely be dependent on 24-70 performance.  For most people, they would want to get the macro capability of 24-70, food, flower, insect photography which is something you'll always encounter during travels 6D being marketed as a "travel" camera.
I think you have that entirely correct, with the exception of the fact that people then may have to carry along a 70-200/300

Lenses / 35mm 1.4 vs. 50mm 1.2: aps-c upgrade
« on: November 21, 2012, 06:16:23 PM »
If I were to upgrade to a 7d or the future 7d replacement what should I upgrade to for my standard lens.
I currently have a 50mm 1.8 and a 28mm 1.8. And I want to upgrade to some l glass. I will give my 50mm 1.8 to my brother who is beginning with his rebel. The question is, should I keep the 28mm and get the 50mm 1.2, making a 40mm and 80mm equivalent. Or should I sell the 28 and get the 35mm 1.4, which will make a 55mm equivalent. These are my options for portraits. I have a wide angle, and a telephoto already, so these are portrait specific.
Or, could this be an easy sacrifice of $500 by selling the 28, and getting the canon 50mm 1.2 along with the new sigma 35mm 1.4

Lenses / Re: X-mas: 16-35mm 2.8 ii vs. canon 50mm 1.2
« on: November 18, 2012, 07:20:27 PM »
50L.  A TS-E 17 or 24 might be better for landscapes than the 16-35L II.

Return I need versatility, what I have now is the 70-200 mm 2.8 is ii, so a 16-35 and a 50 will give a good range. I don'to shoot on a field or a court, I shoot on a boat for competitive sailing, that is really besides the question. Because I otherwise shoot portraits/landscapes. But now that I think about it, I should probably get the 50mm 1.2l, I borrowed it one time and loved it, and I make $$$ off of portraits, so maybe for now is the best option, I could always just grab a 17-40, or pick up the 16-35 after a price drop for the 14-24 release.
And when I do shoot indoors for my younger brothers highschool basketball game, it might come in handy.

Thanks so much guys, but I am still open to opinions :)

Lenses / Re: X-mas: 16-35mm 2.8 ii vs. canon 50mm 1.2
« on: November 18, 2012, 07:10:55 PM »
Great to hear, what may help, is that I currently use a rebel, but I'm moving up to eithe a 1d mark iv or 5d ii next year, since I've saved up enough, I could buy either now, but I'm lacking some stuff. My only super wide is my 18-55, but I also have a 50mm 1.8. My worry, is not having a sufficient lens for a future upgrade, but I could always ask to borrow money from my parents or hold off till.

Lenses / X-mas: 16-35mm 2.8 ii vs. canon 50mm 1.2
« on: November 18, 2012, 10:13:15 AM »
hey, guys, trying to decide which lens i should go for for X-mas.
the two lenses are the lenses above. i have enough money to buy one. so which one should i chooses. i specialize in sports, portraits, and landscapes, so i want to choose, what would be better first. please also consider a 14-24 2.8 and a 50mm 1.2 ii. example, if i get the 16-35 now, i'll get the 50mm ii later.

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