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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 17, 2012, 11:12:24 AM »
I bet Canon sells a ton of these at BestBuy to soccer moms who will be told all about the benefits of a FF sensor and in a not so intimidating body.

Is this common on CR? - These 6D threads are pockmarked with posts where you're basically disparaging someone as unintelligent or lazy and concluding that only "those people" would buy something you don't want.

It's not just immature, it's also sexist, racist and classist. Stop generalizing people into "less than me" classes like "noobs" "soccer moms" "students" or any other kind of jim crow bullS___.

If you need more buttons and switches on your camera to feel like you're smarter than women whose kids play soccer, by all means, upgrade yourself to this beauty and leave the rest of us dumb losers to fiddle with our toys:

2D Photography Rube Goldberg Machine

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon Announces the Canon EOS 6D DSLR
« on: September 17, 2012, 10:52:08 AM »
I'm reading the complaints, and it seems that people are upset Canon actually relies on the user to create a photograph.

"Trying to breathe new life into the old focus & recompose technique?   "

Really?  That's like being upset because you bought a car without auto-parking. "Trying to breathe new life into the old parallel parking technique".

I swear, some of you want focusing technique to go the way of exposure: and that is to take the technique completely out of the equation.

You mean you have to use your hands? That's like a baby's toy!
Wild Gunman scene in Back to the future II, 80s cafe

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 17, 2012, 10:34:23 AM »
A thought I just had: There seems to be a lot of concern on this post as to who will buy this camera. That this camera won't sell well. And my response to this is.... Who cares? I would be totally fine if this camera only sells 1 unit worldwide (and that would be to me of course...). We should really be less concerned with Canon's sales numbers and more concerned with our own creative output.

You may have just defeated the entire purpose of the internet.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 17, 2012, 10:12:18 AM »
The concept image for the 6D AF is interesting. It's more wide-set than I anticipated.

The design shows they really managed to build the anti-5d3 af: no cross type sensor at f2.8+ ...

... this is ridiculous beyond belief, no way to give this a positive spin even if it's up to -3ev. I've shot for a long time with an analog eos620 with no cross-type sensor - the pattern detection simply isn't reliable enough if it's only one point.

From Canon's product page: High Performance Composing and Focus

Canon marketing says otherwise? Well, I'm not quite convinced :-p

Maybe it's another type of AF completely different from what we've seen so far?  I'm going to give Canon the benefit of doubt.

What has me intrigued is that the 6D will use the same AF tuning as the 5D3 and the 1DX, where you can set thresholds for focusing based on how subjects move across the points. It's possible that they've refined the software to the point where 11 AF points are acceptable for most shooters (accepting that this is not a camera built for high-end professional sports photography).

It would also explain why the AF points are so tall and long - maybe this AF system is more concerned with how subjects cross the zones as opposed to moving into individual points.

Either way, there's no way to tell if it will work or not until its put into practice. I think it's presumptuous to assume that only a multi-cross point AF system could be reliable.

Having used the 5D3 at work quite a bit, that AF system was overkill. I would tend to cluster my AF points so I can reach each zone with one push of the trigger in any direction. I find it's much faster and more reliable to move the camera slightly while pressing the stick once while autofocusing, as opposed to walking the cursor across 63 AF points one at a time; but that's a workflow that makes sense for me shooting fast action street photography like protests, riots, etc. Other people are doing studio or product photography and would need more selectable points. Some are shooting sports and need more coverage. Luckily Canon makes cameras for that.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 17, 2012, 09:09:52 AM »
The concept image for the 6D AF is interesting. It's more wide-set than I anticipated.

From Canon's product page: 

High Performance Composing and Focus

The EOS 6D has an entirely new 11-point AF system for fast, accurate AF no matter the situation. With its new centered cross-type AF point with EV -3 sensitivity for improved performance and focus in low light, and a newly developed and bright 21mm eye point viewfinder with 97% coverage, the EOS 6D offers impressive performance in both composition and AF, even in the dimmest lighting situations. Offering not only One-Shot AF, AI Servo AF, and AI Focus AF, the EOS 6D’s AI Servo focus can be customized with tracking, acceleration and deceleration tracking sensitivities, and 1st or 2nd image priority adjustments. For even more customization, adjustment levels for the wide-angle and telephoto ends of particular lenses can be entered and recorded into the camera’s memory.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 16, 2012, 11:53:48 PM »
You and other pros use SD cards???

SDXC Cards are looking pretty good these days. I would guess that ditching the CF slot gave them room for stuff like WiFi and GPS.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 16, 2012, 11:24:11 PM »

AutoFocus Micro Adjustment. It lets you tune the focus on lenses. http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/article_pages/cameras/1ds3_af_micoadjustment.html

Thanks Ryan... but I was asking if the 6D had it not what it is.

Oh sorry. I mean, every XD camera they've put out in the past 4 years or so has had it, so here's hoping.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 16, 2012, 11:18:50 PM »

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 16, 2012, 11:00:58 PM »
What I would have liked:

pop up flash

No built-in flash? Why?

Hopefully, that's the price to pay for a bright, quiet, 5D3-style pentaprism viewfinder with silent mode. The XXXD series use pentamirrors, which are significantly dimmer, and can make accurate focusing difficult under fast action.

Further, with f/2.8 lenses at $200 and under, and usable ISO at 12,800, there's no good reason to use a pop-up flash anymore.

What concerns me is the 97% and not 100% coverage. I can only hope it was an effort to trim weight. Anyone who has shot for an extended period of time with a gripped 5D3 knows that they are intolerably heavy, especially with bright glass.  If this thing is lightweight, I'll forgive the 3% loss of area very quickly. 

If it's some kind of hybrid that's as noisy as a pentamirror, however, it belongs in the trash.

Other thoughts:
The AF concerns me, but I'll wait and see. An 11 point AF is 10 more than I use 99% of the time. If they use the new AF software system in the newer bodies like the 5D3, they might be able to get away with it, especially if the coverage is fairly large.

When I shoot with our 5D3 at work, I use center point, or I cluster the AF points into zones and use the thumb stick to choose on the fly. I tell my camera where to focus, not vice versa. If this little guy has the same style AF, I can't see the difference, but if it's lightweight and lets me auto-upload files via WIFI to a macbook air for filing with my editor, I most certainly will.

This seems to be a camera built for street shooting. Two years ago, I bought a t2i to have something I could afford to break that was light enough to carry around 100% of the time when I'm not shooting for work. My biggest problem with it is the dim viewfinder and creaky shutter noise. If the 6D eliminates that without adding too much weight, it'll be my new carryaround.

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