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Lenses / Re: 24-70 II slight clicking sound when zooming
« on: June 05, 2013, 04:36:55 PM »
Hi guys!

Instead of completely highjacking another thread I'll post a new topic.

Does everybody experience a very slight frequent "tick.tick,tick" noise when turning the zoomring of the 24-70 mk2?

It's spanking new, only very slight afma was needed (+1 to +3) and AF works perfect, the zoom turns smoothly otherwise. I just want to make sure it's nothing wrong.

Don't know if this has any bearing on anything. Just something I experienced  :o

Thanks!

Huh how funny, I've just returned a copy that had exactly this issue! The replacement copy I've just got is perfect. In fact this is my third copy. The first return was due to a decentering issue and second one had the 'tick, tick, tick' sound you mentioned. New one appears to be a keeper with no issues.

It's a really weird sound isn't it? difficult to describe.
Personally if you can I'd get a replacement.
Out of interest did your copy come with the new center pinch lens cap or the old style?
The first copy I had was the old style, the new one I've got is old style too but the one I've just sent back with the 'tick, tick, tick' sound was the new center pinch cap. The only significance this really has is that if it's got the new cap it was made from the beginning of this year. Old style caps mean the lens was made last year.

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Lenses / Re: 24-70 f/2.8L II strange zoom noise + decentering issues
« on: June 05, 2013, 04:27:45 PM »
Got the replacement copy today. Zoom ring sounds perfect!  :D
Definitely must have been something strange going on with the one I returned. So I'm really pleased that I chose to send it back and get it replaced.
Actually the zoom ring action feels nicer too and smoother.
Obviously as I've only just got it today and attached it to the camera to check briefly I haven't done any extensive IQ testing but it appears to be very sharp in the middle of the frame at wide and tele end. Will need to check edges at 24mm properly but that also appears to be very good. So think I've got a keeper!
Also don't know if it's my imagination but this copy also appears to be quieter when auto focusing. The returned one was ever so slightly clunky sounding at times. Nothing serious but again this one is an improvement.
So all appears to be good. Even with the inconvenience I've had with getting a good copy without issues I'm still amazed by the near prime-like quality of the images this zoom can create.
Looking forward to putting it through it's paces now  :)

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thanks for the reply guys.
it's going back saturday as the zoom ring is definitely not sounding right. as I said before it's not that its a loud mechanical sound but rather like some static friction on something like the weather sealing or something. really weird as sometimes it sounded like it was going away and then the next second it was doing it again. never had anything like it with my other lenses. oh well it's going back for replacement. seller wasn't too happy as it's the second copy i've tried from them. both with seperate issues. maybe i'm just unlucky  :(

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Lenses / 24-70 f/2.8L II strange zoom noise + decentering issues
« on: May 29, 2013, 10:14:56 AM »
I've just received a replacement for my 24-70 f/2.8L II as after some shooting with the old one I felt it had some decentering issues (whole right edge was blurred).
The replacement seems generally sharper across the frame, though doing a brick wall test this weekend just gone I now believe this copy to have a slight blurry left edge, not as bad as last copy but still :-\ The right edge is pretty sharp. On this point can someone tell me if decentering issues can be fixed by Canon repair centers?
The other issue which is weird is a strange noise/sound when I zoom in and out. The old copy I had was fine..a bit more resistance than this new one but sounded normal. The new copy I've got makes a strange tiny 'crackling' sound. It doesn't sound mechanical at all and the zoom action is smooth all the way. Maybe something to do with rubber seal in the zoom ring or air/bubbles in lubrication maybe? Only way I can describe it is the sound kelloggs rice krispies make when they 'snap, crackle and pop'  :) It seems to be quite random too. Sometimes it's worse than other times (temperature?). If I've not used it for a good few hours it hardly does it but then seems to happen more as I use it for that session. It is quite faint in sound I must add. If you were outside in noise you'd never notice but in a dead quiet room you can just hear it from behind the camera and if you put your ear to it it's clearly noticeable. I fear that if I used it for video the mic may pick it up easily causing some peaks in the audio.

Anyone else experience similar?

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still love my old 40D :) used now as a backup/macro/crop body.
only thing i don't like is the low lcd screen rez.
other than that it's a classic which can take some really high quality images.

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Lenses / Re: Which Lens ... 24-70 II or primes?
« on: April 10, 2013, 07:30:15 AM »
I would go with the 24-70 II and add one of the primes later if you still feel a need for a faster lens.
+1 Good advice. The 24-70II is so good it has prompted plenty of photographers including myself to sell L primes in the 24-70mm range. My 24 f/1.4II has gone as has the Sigma 50 f/1.4. If I had a 35 it would be gone too. The 24-70 f/2.8II is a simply awesome lens and makes primes in this range all but obsolete.

-PW

the 24-70II is great. however i'm not sure i'd agree fully with what you say about replacing primes.
i myself love to be creative with shallow dof so fast primes are still very desirable and useful for me.
photography is my hobby not work so maybe thats the difference..

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Lenses / Re: Which Lens ... 24-70 II or primes?
« on: April 10, 2013, 05:12:32 AM »
Actually, except if you shoot very often at 24, I'd sell the 24-105 to get both 24-70 and the sigma 35. Was my move when i recently got the 5d3 kit.

yeah i thought of this option too. certainly another way to go....unless you really love your 24-105 that is.

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Lenses / Re: Which Lens ... 24-70 II or primes?
« on: April 10, 2013, 04:52:14 AM »
well i've just got the 24-70 II and although not had chance to put it through it's paces yet it seems to be as good as they say. however looking at your gear in your signature line, if i was in your situation i'd probably go the prime route seeing as how you already have a standard zoom in the form of the 24-105.

i'd go with the 24 1.4L II to get better sharpnes across the frame than you'd currently get with the 24-105 for landscape work and either later get the 35L or look at the new sigma 35 1.4 or wait to see if canon release a 35L II.

my next lens purchase will be one of these 35 primes.

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 24-70 F/2.8L II USM Zoom Ring Smoothness
« on: April 08, 2013, 04:47:55 AM »
I just received mine  last week, the zoom ring is firm and a bit tight.  It is smooth to operate.
 
I prefer it this way, I don't like the zoom creep that can happen with a loose zoom mechanism.  I really never thought about it until I read the question and double checked mine.  It is normal.

yeah better to be this way than loose for sure.

i find if zooming whilst camera is in normal shooting position that it is firm and smooth, however at the 24-28 position and a bit also at 50-70 (so beginning and end bits of the range) if you are in a dead quiet room it makes a gentle ziiiiip sound (if you do it quickly) rather than just the shhh sound that you get over the middle range. using it outside though you'd barely hear anything though of course.

someone mentioned it's not as smooth as the 70-200 f2.8L II, well that's surely down to internal zooming as opposed to moving a lens barrel to and fro i'd have thought.

i did the pointing lens down and zooming in and then pointing up when zooming out thing and confirm when you do this its as smooth as a baby. again as Zlatko said, that's simply down to gravity.

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 24-70 F/2.8L II USM Zoom Ring Smoothness
« on: April 07, 2013, 07:27:23 PM »
The new 24-70 II has a stiffness in the zoom ring — I think it is ideal because I can set it at the focal length I want and expect it to stay there until I want to change it.  So my 24-70 can be a 28, 35, 50, etc.  I think this encourages the use of the zoom as you would a set of primes.  This is unlike the 70-200, for example, which is more likely to be used to frame fast moving sports action; for such a lens you want smooth-fast zoom action.

i've just got the 24-70 II and have also noticed the stiffness of the zoom ring. glad to see that this is fairly normal from the comments above.

i tend to agree with Zlakto's comment quoted above and thought the exact same thing as to the reason why it may have been intentionally designed this way, so as to be able to securely set it to useful focal lengths such as 24, 28, 35, 50, 70. makes sense to me.

seeing as how i've kind of resurrected this thread i wonder if anyone here has noticed the zoom ring loosening over time? my copy already after a few days of use seems to be ever so slightly smoother.

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Lenses / Re: 24-70 f2.8L II or.....
« on: April 05, 2013, 05:18:27 AM »
One thing I noticed is that the zoom ring feels a little bit less smooth at 24-28 then it smooths out nicely and then is a little less smooth again at 50 -70. Nothing dramatic but it is noticeable. Anyone else notice this with their copy?
I did not have that issue on my 24-70 f/2.8 L II lens.

actually it's already starting to feel a bit more fluid now so think it's just initial new'ness :)

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Lenses / Re: 24-70 f2.8L II or.....
« on: April 03, 2013, 01:14:34 PM »
Got my 24-70 f2.8L II  today :D Put it in my signature already  ;D
Only had chance to take some test shots indoors with and without a speedlight.
Everything seems pretty cool so far :) Very crisp and rich images. I actually did a quick comparison between the 70mm end with the 70mm end of my 70-200 f4L IS lens and it seems that the 24-70 f2.8L II is a bit sharper even without IS. Impressed as I thought I've read somewhere that the 70mm end is it's weakest area.

It balances well on the 5D MK III...I guess you could say it's a little heavy, though after a while of use i felt the weight helped me keep the camera nice and still. Actually, hanging round my neck with my optech super classic pro loop strap it doesn't feel a bad weight at all really.

The focus ring is really nice and smooth. The zoom ring is fairly tight but I guess that may loosen with a bit of use. One thing I noticed is that the zoom ring feels a little bit less smooth at 24-28 then it smooths out nicely and then is a little less smooth again at 50 -70. Nothing dramatic but it is noticeable. Anyone else notice this with their copy?

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Lenses / Re: 24-70 f2.8L II or.....
« on: March 30, 2013, 08:52:44 AM »
I decided this morning (i'm in the UK).
A 24-70 f2.8L II should be with me wednesday  :D

I've been considering this since the start of the year by the way not just the start of this thread  ;D

Haha...congrats..you'll never regret this purchase no matter the price and it's not a cheap lens but it give you satisfaction no other lens can...the ONlY issue i have with it..is the new hood..it's a great feature to have a "lock" but it's also troublesome to have to find that button to press to remove the hood..

pretty sure I can live with that 'issue'  ;)

actually thinking about that does it still fit on the lens reversed ok for storage?

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Lenses / Re: 24-70 f2.8L II or.....
« on: March 29, 2013, 01:10:52 PM »
For sure those two are great value.
I know some will groan when I say this but for now I'd like to keep to the 'all Canon' theme.
I'll maybe stray from that path at some point down the line though. Most likely starting with a siggy 35 next year sometime.

Makes it simple then,  24-70II and be done.  I think you already knew this, though.   ;)

yep it's done, as mentioned in my last post.
should have it by wednesday  :D

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Lenses / Re: 24-70 f2.8L II or.....
« on: March 29, 2013, 10:00:17 AM »
I decided this morning (i'm in the UK).
A 24-70 f2.8L II should be with me wednesday  :D

I've been considering this since the start of the year by the way not just the start of this thread  ;D

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