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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 24-70 F/2.8L II USM Zoom Ring Smoothness
« on: April 08, 2013, 04:47:55 AM »
I just received mine  last week, the zoom ring is firm and a bit tight.  It is smooth to operate.
 
I prefer it this way, I don't like the zoom creep that can happen with a loose zoom mechanism.  I really never thought about it until I read the question and double checked mine.  It is normal.

yeah better to be this way than loose for sure.

i find if zooming whilst camera is in normal shooting position that it is firm and smooth, however at the 24-28 position and a bit also at 50-70 (so beginning and end bits of the range) if you are in a dead quiet room it makes a gentle ziiiiip sound (if you do it quickly) rather than just the shhh sound that you get over the middle range. using it outside though you'd barely hear anything though of course.

someone mentioned it's not as smooth as the 70-200 f2.8L II, well that's surely down to internal zooming as opposed to moving a lens barrel to and fro i'd have thought.

i did the pointing lens down and zooming in and then pointing up when zooming out thing and confirm when you do this its as smooth as a baby. again as Zlatko said, that's simply down to gravity.

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 24-70 F/2.8L II USM Zoom Ring Smoothness
« on: April 07, 2013, 07:27:23 PM »
The new 24-70 II has a stiffness in the zoom ring — I think it is ideal because I can set it at the focal length I want and expect it to stay there until I want to change it.  So my 24-70 can be a 28, 35, 50, etc.  I think this encourages the use of the zoom as you would a set of primes.  This is unlike the 70-200, for example, which is more likely to be used to frame fast moving sports action; for such a lens you want smooth-fast zoom action.

i've just got the 24-70 II and have also noticed the stiffness of the zoom ring. glad to see that this is fairly normal from the comments above.

i tend to agree with Zlakto's comment quoted above and thought the exact same thing as to the reason why it may have been intentionally designed this way, so as to be able to securely set it to useful focal lengths such as 24, 28, 35, 50, 70. makes sense to me.

seeing as how i've kind of resurrected this thread i wonder if anyone here has noticed the zoom ring loosening over time? my copy already after a few days of use seems to be ever so slightly smoother.

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Lenses / Re: 24-70 f2.8L II or.....
« on: April 05, 2013, 05:18:27 AM »
One thing I noticed is that the zoom ring feels a little bit less smooth at 24-28 then it smooths out nicely and then is a little less smooth again at 50 -70. Nothing dramatic but it is noticeable. Anyone else notice this with their copy?
I did not have that issue on my 24-70 f/2.8 L II lens.

actually it's already starting to feel a bit more fluid now so think it's just initial new'ness :)

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Lenses / Re: 24-70 f2.8L II or.....
« on: April 03, 2013, 01:14:34 PM »
Got my 24-70 f2.8L II  today :D Put it in my signature already  ;D
Only had chance to take some test shots indoors with and without a speedlight.
Everything seems pretty cool so far :) Very crisp and rich images. I actually did a quick comparison between the 70mm end with the 70mm end of my 70-200 f4L IS lens and it seems that the 24-70 f2.8L II is a bit sharper even without IS. Impressed as I thought I've read somewhere that the 70mm end is it's weakest area.

It balances well on the 5D MK III...I guess you could say it's a little heavy, though after a while of use i felt the weight helped me keep the camera nice and still. Actually, hanging round my neck with my optech super classic pro loop strap it doesn't feel a bad weight at all really.

The focus ring is really nice and smooth. The zoom ring is fairly tight but I guess that may loosen with a bit of use. One thing I noticed is that the zoom ring feels a little bit less smooth at 24-28 then it smooths out nicely and then is a little less smooth again at 50 -70. Nothing dramatic but it is noticeable. Anyone else notice this with their copy?

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Lenses / Re: 24-70 f2.8L II or.....
« on: March 30, 2013, 08:52:44 AM »
I decided this morning (i'm in the UK).
A 24-70 f2.8L II should be with me wednesday  :D

I've been considering this since the start of the year by the way not just the start of this thread  ;D

Haha...congrats..you'll never regret this purchase no matter the price and it's not a cheap lens but it give you satisfaction no other lens can...the ONlY issue i have with it..is the new hood..it's a great feature to have a "lock" but it's also troublesome to have to find that button to press to remove the hood..

pretty sure I can live with that 'issue'  ;)

actually thinking about that does it still fit on the lens reversed ok for storage?

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Lenses / Re: 24-70 f2.8L II or.....
« on: March 29, 2013, 01:10:52 PM »
For sure those two are great value.
I know some will groan when I say this but for now I'd like to keep to the 'all Canon' theme.
I'll maybe stray from that path at some point down the line though. Most likely starting with a siggy 35 next year sometime.

Makes it simple then,  24-70II and be done.  I think you already knew this, though.   ;)

yep it's done, as mentioned in my last post.
should have it by wednesday  :D

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Lenses / Re: 24-70 f2.8L II or.....
« on: March 29, 2013, 10:00:17 AM »
I decided this morning (i'm in the UK).
A 24-70 f2.8L II should be with me wednesday  :D

I've been considering this since the start of the year by the way not just the start of this thread  ;D

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Lenses / Re: 24-70 f2.8L II or.....
« on: March 28, 2013, 01:50:52 PM »
Since money doesn't seem to be an issue here go ahead and get the 24-70ii. If it was my money I'd be hard pressed though to ignore the value of the tamron 24-70 vc and a siggy 35 for the same price as the canon.

For sure those two are great value.
I know some will groan when I say this but for now I'd like to keep to the 'all Canon' theme.
I'll maybe stray from that path at some point down the line though. Most likely starting with a siggy 35 next year sometime.

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Lenses / Re: 24-70 f2.8L II or.....
« on: March 28, 2013, 12:00:48 PM »
In your position, I'd get the one I need. 
 
Only you know which, you did not give anyone a hint as to what it is that you currently photograph, or problems you are having.

i photograph everything.
i want to be able to have this range covered. i don't want to be pinned down to a specific use but rather to be used for a broad range of applications.
If you have 50mm as your widest lens, you are missing out on a huge range of focal lengths.
 
I'd get the 24-70L MK II.  I have the 35L and 24-105L, but am going o try the 24-70 to see if I can get by in low light.  It might be difficult.
 
I won't sell my existing lenses until I can see how I do with f/2.8 and extreme low light.  I will be at ISO 12800 and maybe higher.

thats more the sort of reply i was after ;)
yep as I said in my opening post the whole point of my purchasing one of these options is the very fact that my widest lens is 50mm and this needs rectifying.

i have to say i am really leaning towards the 24-70 II considering the mostly positive reviews it's had.

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Lenses / Re: 24-70 f2.8L II or.....
« on: March 28, 2013, 11:44:38 AM »
Or Sigma 35mm 1.4 + Tamron 24-70 VC? If it was my money, I'd buy that combo.

Something else to know about me is that if I went my option A, I'd most likely further down the line get a 35 prime. Sigma or current Canon or MKII (if one is out when this happens).

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Lenses / Re: 24-70 f2.8L II or.....
« on: March 28, 2013, 11:34:21 AM »
In your position, I'd get the one I need. 
 
Only you know which, you did not give anyone a hint as to what it is that you currently photograph, or problems you are having.

i photograph everything.
i want to be able to have this range covered. i don't want to be pinned down to a specific use but rather to be used for a broad range of applications.

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Lenses / 24-70 f2.8L II or.....
« on: March 28, 2013, 11:25:33 AM »
ok just wondering what peoples thoughts are on this...
take a look at my sig for my current lenses. notice the widest lens i have is my 50mm. I need to rectify this.
now what would you do in my position:

A) 24-70 f2.8L II
B) 35 f1.4L + 24-105 f4L IS

note I can get either option for essentially the same money.
oh yeah.. will be used mainly on my 5D MKIII.

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Lenses / Re: Need your opinions on selling my 50L and 24/70L
« on: March 25, 2013, 10:50:07 AM »
i suspect none of the above has helped the OP make a decision  ;)  ;D
things would be so much simplier if we took that frustrating little thing called 'money' out of the equation  :-\

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Lenses / Re: DPReview: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II Review
« on: March 12, 2013, 03:22:33 PM »
lastcoyote.. I am in the same boat .. I have the

Canon 5D Mark III | 40D |35 F1.4L / 24-70mm F2.8L MKI / 24-105 IS F4L/50 f1.4 | 100 f2.8L IS Macro | 135 f2L  | 70-200 f4L IS |  580EX II/KENKO 1.4x and Canon 2x III
I have the 70-200mm 2.8 IS MKII and a 430EXII on the way ..

I want the 24-70 MKII ( already getting rid on 70-200 F4 IS (since 2.8 is on it's way) was thinking of getting rid of 24-70 MKI and keeping the 24-105 but looking at how good the 24-70 MKII is considering selling both and 50 F1.4...choices, choices..aaarggg. 
I have purchased a 24-70mm 2.8 MKI, 135mm F2L, 100mm IS F2.8 Macro, 35mm F1.4L, 1.4x Kenco and 2X III teleconvertors and now the 70-200mm IS 2.8 IS and a 430EXII in less than 4 months...just for vacation shots and family photos.. explain that one to your wife (That's after buying the 5D MKIII for my Christmas gift to myself..lol)

man alive that's a lot of gear in such a short time  :o

i reckon you should sell the 24-70 MK I and the 24-105 to then get the 24-70 MKII.
keep the 50 f1.4 though as it can come in handy.

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Lenses / Re: DPReview: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II Review
« on: March 12, 2013, 08:37:20 AM »
I just have this feeling that after getting the 24-70 II, I really won't use the 24-105L at all...and if that's going to be the case, why not get the new zoom that much sooner?

I'm sat here at the moment just thinking about the 24-70mm 2.8 II - I've still to sell my 10-22mm which was replaced by the 16-35mm on the 6D, I'm not using the 70-300mm since I bought the 135mm - cropping into a shot taken on the 135mm really is better than anything taken on the 70-300mm (non L) and then pondering about would I really use my 50mm 1.4mm if I got the 24-70 ?  Probably less, if at all... 

Need to stop looking at these threads, ou guys are costing me serious money ;-)

an uncontrollable desire is a terrible thing  ;)

i've recently purchased the 135L and love it to bits.
my next purchase when money allows (end of the year probably) will be either the 24-70 2.8L II or the 35 1.4L. i seriously can't decide which to go for. i love primes but a standard zoom is missing from my kit...what to do what to do?  :-\ then of course there's the thought in the back of my mind that possibly a replacement will happen soonish for the 35L. but i guess you can't go on thinking like that...

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