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Contests / Re: Gura Gear Uinta Bag System Giveaway
« on: March 26, 2014, 07:14:42 PM »
I guess I cannot enter?   I do not macebook or twitter/tweet....?????
I thought I had entered and then .. saw how to enter. No point. I have no social media account  >:(

You can probably buy more gear bags in the time you save and spend productively elsewhere...  :D

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I should inform you, however, that I got an offer via Greentoe for $ 995 before main-in rebate. That, with the $ 20 off first time purchase offer from Greentoe, makes the sale price $ 875 after rebates. I know this is a lot more than $ 697, but it is a really good price for a new US-warranty lens from an authorized dealer.

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The 135L has so many other great uses other than indoor sports. Except for Macro and Supertele I have and can use it in almost any situation with the proper sneaker zooming. I put this lens in the same category as the 85 1.2. It has a unique look and color unlike any other Canon lens.If you can get it , get it, especially if it's through the Refurb program at 696.


So did they end up sending you the refurb'd 135mm after all?


Still listed as out of stock at this time.  I expect it will get restocked, but possibly not during this (20% off) sale window.

- A


See this thread:
http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=20148.msg381187#msg381187

At that time it was listed as in stock but could not be added to the cart. I contacted them and they said it wasn't for sale and certainly not in stock and that this was a cached page. But slclick figured out a workaround and was able to order the lens, except he wasn't sure if they will honor the order. I was also curious because if they really don't have it in stock, it will be hard for them to ship one. On the other hand, if they did then the reps gave me incorrect information both over the phone and via email. It's all very weird and, unfortunately, extremely poor communication from Canon.
Now it seems that the lens wasn't in stock after all.

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The 135L has so many other great uses other than indoor sports. Except for Macro and Supertele I have and can use it in almost any situation with the proper sneaker zooming. I put this lens in the same category as the 85 1.2. It has a unique look and color unlike any other Canon lens.If you can get it , get it, especially if it's through the Refurb program at 696.

So did they end up sending you the refurb'd 135mm after all?

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I noticed that you also have a 100 L. How much do you use that lens for macro purposes? How much are you using that lens for portraits now? Or for other non-macro uses? I think another comparison question you should consider is between the 100 L and 135 L and much has been written on that comparison in these forums. It boils down to this: for your use, what will the 135 allow you to do that you can't currently do with the 100? How often will you want to do those different things and is the price worth it to you? Or, if you don't use the 100 L for macro purposes, do you want to sell it and get the 135?

Great question.  There is a 0% chance I sell the 100L to get the 135L.  The 100L scratches quite a few itches for me.

With the 100L, I bounce equally between macro work, general short tele use (candids at range, kids, 'the second prime in my bag', etc.) and concert photography with it.  It's desirable for all the practical reasons I've heard for the 135 over the 70-200 -- less conspicuous, lighter, smaller, etc.

The 100L is an underrated 100mm tele, and I've taken some great shots with it.    But when I do use it as a tele, I can only praise it for sharpness (which it has buckets of) but not color or bokeh.  The 100L is very good -- don't get me wrong -- but for color/bokeh it's 'modern-non-L-prime good' and not 'something magical/special about this L prime good' that I hear from the 35L, 50L, 85L, 135L, 200 F/2L, etc.  I think there is more to it than just the added stop(s) of light those lenses offer, and I welcome your perspective on that.

So I don't see the 135L (obviously) replacing the macro work or short tele with IS when I need it, but I would see the 135L becoming my go-to for dedicated portraiture and possibly as the '2nd prime in my bag' on days with good light where I don't necessarily need the 100L's IS.

- A

That sounds about right to me, although the 100L is far from underrated.  Almost everyone here has one, and as you can see, they think it's the best 100mm macro and short telephoto lens, ever.  So that's far from underrated.  In my opinion though, it's overrated.  If I need weather sealing on my 135, I just use a bag...seals it and the camera too.  The 100L and the 70-200 ii, are the most overrated lenses Canon sells...and are also the most popular, it seems to me...of the L lenses anyway.  Despite contrary opinions, the 135 is pretty magical.

It's all subjective. To me my 50 II felt magical when I first experienced shallow DoF.

Not to hijack this thread, I have a question for the vox populi:
I have a choice between a refurb 135mm (from Canon) for $ 697 vs a new 135mm (authorized dealer) for $ 875. Which should I go for? Torn  :-\

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A photographer will use that 70-200 but...an artist will use the 135.

I think this fits more in that myths thread I saw recently :)

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Thanks for sharing this very useful piece of information.

I got befuddled by the "AI servo not locking focus" a few days ago when I was focusing and recomposing, and kept taking one fuzzy image after another. It felt like witchcraft, that the image would go all blurry on me just as I recomposed to take the picture (I was using BBF but foolishly kept my finger on the BB) until I realized that I was on AI servo.

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According to the Canon sales rep I spoke with, and her supervisor, and the rep who emailed me, they don't sell that lens refurbished any more. The page you are accessing is a cached page. So there is no question of it being in stock, it is simply not for sale. Quite disappointing.
However, you may want to confirm this for yourself. Good luck!

Yep.  I can't confirm it's gone from refurb forever, but it's not on the main refurb lens page as of the beginning of the sale.  That cached page that CPW points to still exists but now formally says out of stock. 

It's a little surprising, b/c many are in the wild and it sells out instantly when offered.  This isn't a $10k supertele that they get one of per year that can sit for some time without getting sold.

But I think it will be back.  The 24 1.4L, 35 1.4L and others drop off the refurb site completely (i.e. not listed as out of stock -- the item just drops from the store) as they restock.

- A

Hope you are right.
I really want this lens, and my biggest reason for that is the size. I need something light in the 100-150 range that I often need. Of course, I could go for a cheaper zoom (70-300 non-L or Tamron) but I've owned those previously and it is hard to go back to that kind of IQ.
Now, if I owned the 70-300L that would be a very different question. So I wouldn't look at the 135L for it's new price (even with the rebate) because then getting a used or refurb 70-300L is better for me.

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Lenses / Re: Should I buy the 35L now or wait for the price drop?
« on: March 25, 2014, 12:57:08 PM »
If you haven't already, then I recommend borrowing or renting a 35L to get a feel for how differently it renders vs what you currently use. Shoot a range of shots (landscape, close-up, products, pets, family etc.) to really see what it really offers. Once you know how much of an image quality benefit can you get from using a 35L over the lenses you currently are using...

+1. It took me only a few shots to see the difference between the 35L@1.4 and my 24-70@35mm. This cannot be reproduced by images others have taken. If only the price was a few hundred dollars less... :(

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I have been seeking the 135mm purely because I miss having a light short telephoto because the 70-200 is so big and heavy.
However, here's an FYI: the 135mm isn't really available refurbished for $ 700 at Canon. It's a cached page: they don't have it for sale (not just in stock). I checked.

Of course.  I can't get it this moment, but they will restock throughout the sale and I might get lucky.

Normally, that deal ($696) sells out in minutes.  The 70-200 F/2.8L IS II (for $1450 or so) sold out within the first moment of the sale starting.  Stock levels vary, but a deal's a deal.

You can track all of this and set auto-notifications here:
http://www.canonpricewatch.com/canon-refurb-stock-tracker/

- A



According to the Canon sales rep I spoke with, and her supervisor, and the rep who emailed me, they don't sell that lens refurbished any more. The page you are accessing is a cached page. So there is no question of it being in stock, it is simply not for sale. Quite disappointing.
However, you may want to confirm this for yourself. Good luck!

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I have been seeking the 135mm purely because I miss having a light short telephoto because the 70-200 is so big and heavy.
However, here's an FYI: the 135mm isn't really available refurbished for $ 700 at Canon. It's a cached page: they don't have it for sale (not just in stock). I checked.

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Looks a lot like the little camera I have on one of my scopes, except it's boring Canon black instead of cool Zeiss blue…   ;)




Canon encourages you to look through it instead of at it ;)

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Lenses / Re: Should I buy the 35L now or wait for the price drop?
« on: March 25, 2014, 09:44:03 AM »
Really? do you think the older 35 will become a desired, somewhat unobtainable lens?

Nope, but after the first enthusiasm over the 35L2's stellar quality people will realize that for many, the ol' 35L1 is "good enough" and the successor isn't worth an additional $1000 = more demand for 35L1 = higher price for quite some time (look at the 24-70L1's price curve).

Do you think this still be the case, if the new 35 will not be considerably more expensive?

Looking at Canon's pricing policy, they either try to sell something unique like the IS primes or extremely high iq items like the 24-70L2 - I don't expect any upcoming reasonably priced L "workhorse" lenses anymore, for that you have to look at Sigma I'm afraid to say. But there always will be enough people demanding Canon, even if for cps alone.

Well, what would be the point of introducing another 35L if it's not significantly better than this one, right? Either it will have IS or f/1.2 or just amazing IQ  ;)

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Pricewatch Deals / Re: This is killing me
« on: March 24, 2014, 09:45:59 PM »
I have broken my head all through the weekend over this. Here's the lowdown.
They don't have any refurbished 135 f/2 L lenses. Period. Not only is it not in stock. It is not even for sale.
What we are seeing is an old cached page. I spent half an hour with a sales rep and then her supervisor over this.
However, Slclick, since you were actually able to make a purchase they might give you a new one for that price or something like that, which will be cool. Let us know what happened, and good luck!

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Contests / Re: Gura Gear Giveaway
« on: March 24, 2014, 09:38:05 PM »
Copy-pasted from the other (new) giveaway thread (congrats, Jon Austin!):


I won a Chobe 19-24L (with the photo gear insert) during the last CR Gura Gear giveaway. I don't recall the exact date (mid-December, maybe), but the package had to pass through UPS' Dallas (Mesquite), TX hub, which was shut down due to weather, and so lots of deliveries were delayed for more than a week.

Anyway, Braden Thompson of Gura Gear contacted me by e-mail when I won, confirmed my shipping address, and provided the UPS tracking number. All very professional and efficient.

As for the bag itself, it's a great little day / overnight kit, very flexible & configurable, well-made & stylish. My only wish is that the dual zippers that open the top would unzip all the way down the sides of the bag to its base / bottom, so that the top would open more fully. As it is, it's a little difficult to access gear in the photo insert and to remove the insert when not needed. Also, the bag has to be in its 24L configuration in order to accept the photo insert.

I've entered this contest as well, although I'm sure my odds of winning again are very small. But I won't hesitate to consider Gura Gear products, the next time I'm in the market.

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