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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D750 to be Canon 5D3 competitor?
« on: September 07, 2014, 03:43:42 PM »

So, I wonder why all these 'photographers who need the Exmor/DR/4K etc.' don't go out and buy the D800/E cameras?

Look, man, people stay with Canon in large part because of the excellent Canon lenses - not because they are OK with the sub-par performance of Canon sensors.

Is there a Canon lens introduced in the past 10 years that has been a dud?
Some of these lenses were overpriced at introduction (e.g. 24-70/4L, the wide IS primes).
But after the inevitable price correction, mostly all offer good value for their excellent performance.

In addition, Canon has been very smart about pushing video in their DSLRs.

Overall, there's plenty to like about Canon's system.
Canon has done quite a few things right  and that has obviously helped them maintain their leading market share.
No arguments about that.

But you guys take all this to mean that only few people care about DR and sensor performance in general.
That's definitely untrue.

People do care about DR and sensor performance and I strongly believe that the 7DII will prove this.
If it reuses the 70D sensor (as it appears from the rumored specs), I predict that this camera will be met with indifference - despite its excellent specs overall.

Also, as I said in another thread, the 5DIII successor is the camera that is most at risk for Canon if it doesn't deliver the high resolution and high DR that Canon users expect. We'll see.

But even if Canon continues to maintain its leading market share, there will be always users like me who would be critical of sensor performance if lags behind the competition.

What's wrong with asking that the vendor of my choices excels in both lenses and sensors? How is that unreasonable??

I bought into the Canon system because it was the best at the time (in my price bracket).
Why should I be happy that this is no longer the case - despite that Canon is maintaining their market share.
And why settle for sub-par sensor performance just because I like Canon lenses better??


You are right to ask for better sensor performance from Canon. I did, when I was still using APS-C. It is not unreasonable to ask.
However, it is unreasonable to bash Canon if you don't get what you ask.
Do you think Canon has developed the high-DR sensor tech in a cost-efficient manner and is just holding it back from us because it already has good sales? Or do you think they are holding off the sensor development because they think people won't want it/need it?

I am sure if and when better sensors are developed, Canon will bring them out. But till then, let's face it- you either 'satisfice' yourself with the excellent tools they already have, or switch- as long as the benefits outweigh the costs.
At the end, everything is has its trade-offs. Canon users wish the DR was better, Nikon users wish for better lenses (or something else), Sony users something else. You can't have it all, one way or the other.




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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D750 to be Canon 5D3 competitor?
« on: September 07, 2014, 03:36:12 PM »
Quote from: sagittariansrock link=topic=22585.msg434491#msg434491
Oh, really? And what argument is that? Surely couldn't be that Canon doesn't need to upgrade their sensor, because I stated in the same comment that I would like them to do so. So please enlighten me, if you would, what argument I so cleverly camouflaged!

It´s always used (meant) as a knockout argument.

And when people tell why they don´t switch, the next argument is that Canon can´t be that bad then. Otherwise they would switch.... no matter the cost or circumbendibus.

But changing camera systems is not as easy as buying a new TV or Smartphone.
Many canon user (and here i tell you shocking news when you really are that naiv) have invested a heavy sum into Canon gear over the years.

See... after all i gave you your answer.

If someone needs something really badly, they reinvest. Look at RLPhoto. He wanted medium format, he sold his 5DIII, his L lenses and got what he wanted.
If someone uses Canon for a lot of things, and likes a lot of things about Canon, and wants them to change a few things for the better, their comments reflect that. Look at Jon Rista's posts, for example. 99.5% of his posts contribute positively to the forum, so when he complains about Canon DR in the remaining 0.5% we know he doesn't frequent the forums for that sole purpose. And I respect that.
Yes, Canon isn't that bad. In fact, it isn't bad at all- it is very good. But as a user of the 5D II, you already know that- so I don't even need to bother wasting my time arguing about it.

My sympathies for the people who hate their jobs and still have to stick to it. It is not a good position to be in. I hope you have an easier time switching to Nikon/Sony/etc.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D750 to be Canon 5D3 competitor?
« on: September 07, 2014, 03:08:21 PM »


It's neither lame, nor an argument. It is a question.


It not a honest question, it´s a camouflaged argument.
And no i will not repeat it the 1001 time for you. Im sure you will get the answer sooner or later. :)


Oh, really? And what argument is that? Surely couldn't be that Canon doesn't need to upgrade their sensor, because I stated in the same comment that I would like them to do so. So please enlighten me, if you would, what argument I so cleverly camouflaged!

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D750 to be Canon 5D3 competitor?
« on: September 07, 2014, 02:59:06 PM »
So, I wonder why all these 'photographers who need the Exmor/DR/4K etc.' don't go out and buy the D800/E cameras?

That lame argument again?

I think you got that questions answered a thousand times already.
When you did not get it until now, it will not help to repeat it another time.  ::)

It's neither lame, nor an argument. It is a question.
And if you are so sure I have gotten my answer, why don't you provide it for the thousand and one-th time? Just humor me?
If there is a camera that clearly meets your needs, why don't you go and buy it, and use it, and quit whining?

I would love for Canon to bring out a high DR, high MP, etc. camera as much as the next person, but that doesn't mean I am not immensely satisfied with what I have. I praise Nikon cameras without bashing Canon ones, unlike some people ^.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D750 to be Canon 5D3 competitor?
« on: September 07, 2014, 02:04:19 PM »
Canon loose major part of users because of nikon d800/E/810 project.

In a recent quarterly analyst call, Canon mentioned increased sales of higher end models (including 5DIII) as a positive sign despite lower dSLR sales overall.  During their corresponding analyst call, Nikon mentioned reduced sales of 'higher end models' which included the D800/E (this was prior the D810, but that model is quite new).

So, Canon said sales in that segment are better, Nikon said they are worse.  So...can I ask...where is your evidence for Canon 'losing a major portion of users' to Nikon in the 5DIII/D8x0 segment?

Wow, such great news!!!! Because we all know, as photographers, that we take pictures with market share and shoot video with Canon executive salaries. I mean who needs a dumb Exmor and the great DR or high MP and who needs 4k video when you can shoot and film with market share and executive salaries!!

Gosh, why I do so ever hope they give us more of the same old sensors and 1080p video.


So, I wonder why all these 'photographers who need the Exmor/DR/4K etc.' don't go out and buy the D800/E cameras?
That would provide Nikon with some (much needed?) revenue, and reduce the number of people trolling the CANONrumors forum with grumbles, gripes and whines.

On point, I am glad Nikon has come up with a D700 replacement. The specs look great. I am sure Canon will also come up with a higher MP FF when they are ready with the technology.

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The header might be somewhat misleading. The comparison between the Nikon and Canon zoom counterparts are somewhat academic (or for the show), with comparison only at a single focal length. The real comparison is between the standard vs tele zoom at the common focal length, i.e., 70mm. So one can always argue putting a camera into the equation might not have altered the results. Thing is, the cameras aren't there because the testing paradigm doesn't require them, not because Roger wanted to keep them out of the equation.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Features seen in the past and absent today
« on: September 07, 2014, 01:11:00 AM »
I wonder why canon packed older cameras with some very useful features that are totally absent in modern cameras. Here I refer to the Canon EOS 1D released in 2001 vs modern professional canon cameras.

I refer strictly to:

1/16,000 shutter speed
X-sync speed 1/500

I would think its to do with it being APS, smaller, lighter shutter, less distance to travel etc. Not on modern pro APS now due to cost / usage considerations I would think.
The 1D was an APS-H body with an electronic shutter.

Quick bit of research; also used CCD rather than CMOS which allowed the use of an electronic shutter. So as CMOS replaced CDD those features were lost.

D810 has electronic front curtain shutter. I don't know how that differs from the D40 though, since the D810 still has an x-sync speed of 1/250.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Which body to bring
« on: September 06, 2014, 10:17:47 PM »
Unless you ask a7 vs 1dx/5dIII, otherwise, can you really go wrong with 1DX ::)

If I have to shoot with DSLR, the X would be my 1st choice ;)

I thought that would be the answer but the 5d is lighter and like I said it will be hot but this would be a rare opportunity to focus on photography so excited about the 1d. Only thing is I only have one battery but charged daily should be fine.

I was bringing
16-35 f4 is
24-70 2.8
70-200 2.8
35mm 1.4

Too much?


So many lenses, and just one body?

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Lenses / Re: 35mm f/1.4 L to 16-35mm f/4 L
« on: September 06, 2014, 02:10:54 PM »
Been reading the reviews of the 16-35mm f/4 L IS and it looks like its a winner, even better than the f/2.8 USM II.  I have a 35mm f/1.4 and would like to trade it to the 16-35 f/4 L IS.  I would love to have a wider angle lens to add to my arsenal 

Question 1:  Is that a wise decision?
Question 2:  Do I keep the 35mm f/1.4 L lens and get a wide prime lens like the 14mm f/2.8L or 24 f/1.4L?

Would appreciate very much your comments and opinions.

Thanks and best regards from Manila Philippines

I had the thought for a bit when I was trying to decide if I should spend the money put away for the 35/1.4 to buy the 16-35/4 IS instead. In the end I decided not to. Here's why:
1. The 35/1.4 has unique functions that none of my f/2.8 or f/4 zooms can deliver (shallow DoF, low-light ability, etc.)
2. On FF, 24mm is sufficiently wide and I have the 24-70 zoom for that.
3. When I need to go wider (rarely), I have the manual focus 14/2.8.

Here's why a 16-35/4 would have made sense:
1. If I needed to go wider than 24mm very often.
2. If I didn't EVER need fast lenses.
3. If I didn't have the 24-70 zoom.

So if you do have a 24-xx zoom then get the 14/2.8L
If you regularly shoot wide get the 16-35 in addition to your prime
If you regularly shoot wide and rarely shoot in low light or need the shallow DoF, get the 16-35 and sell the 35
I can't comment on the usefulness of a 24/1.4. I don't see any but many people do. They'd probably be of more help there.

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Photography Technique / Re: Ballhead or Gimbal?
« on: September 06, 2014, 01:37:41 PM »
Wow! A lot of choices.... many ways to spend money!!! ;)
I am looking for videos to show how a leveling base works, what does it exactly do? I am guessing to level the tripod without having to making minor changes to the legs....
My intent always is to keep it simple and not have too many things lying around so was thinking of getting one setup and be able to use it for all purposes. The gimbal may not fit that totally but close. As long as I don't have to carry both, I am ok. The only other thing I will be looking for is a really low and small tripod which will go low with a small footprint. I'll look at the other suggestions too.
Thanks a lot!
Ray

Here's a video showing the leveling base being used with a gimbal head. As you can see, this is the RRS modifiable gimbal head Neuro was talking about.

Series 2 Leveling Base & Leveling Base Clamp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewn3iHpw8NI

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No price yet?  $5K, $10K?

If one has to ask, he probably can't afford it...  :'(

Affording is the question, do I want to afford it (cut out other expenses)?

Do I want to cut a couple of vacations or a few month's rent or a year's grocery. Nope, not me.

The reference was to a statement attributed to JP Morgan by the way- "if you have to ask, you can't afford it."

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I feel taking too many shots affects my composition and overall quality. I get fewer keepers when shooting more, than when I think twice before taking a shot.
I am sure it depends on the person involved.

I would tend to agree but only to a point.  I shoot more than some, less than others.  My bigger concern, esp with flash, is the distraction I cause the event itself with flash or shutter noise.  But when I restrict myself too much, I find I miss good shots.  It's a balancing act for sure!

Yup, it's a bell-shaped curve :)

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Photography Technique / Re: Ballhead or Gimbal?
« on: September 05, 2014, 08:55:49 PM »
I'll make a left field suggestion- why not go for a leveling base instead of a ball head? Here's why:
1. Even with a gimbal head, a leveling base is quite necessary if you want to pan on a horizontal level. Leveling the tripod using the legs, especially with a supertele mounted on it, is not going to be easy.
2. With an L bracket, you rarely need to tilt the ball head more than the 15 degree that the leveling base already offers.
3. Leveling base makes panoramas much easier than with ball heads (except for double panning heads), especially since panning clamps can be mounted on the leveling bases. Panning above the axis control (leveling base or ball head) provides more flexibility than panning below the axis control, as you can only pan with horizon dead center in the latter case.
4. Leveling bases, even by RRS, are much cheaper than quality ball heads. And they are very, very smooth.

I often used to leave my ball head (monoball Z) behind and mount a clamp directly on the panning head, until I Locktite'd everything together and that was the end of that... :(

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3. Limit the number of shots you take -- I'd say don't take more than 200 all day. If they are well thought out and well executed, you'll save yourself a lot of time in post process. You do not have to shoot pictures of everyone there or of everything that happens. They seemed to have asked for a representational sample that will show what the event looked like. No one will look at more than a couple dozen pictures of the event, no matter how invested or interested. I wouldn't give them more than 50 finished pictures, at most.

I tend to shoot more and be selective before PP.

This is to one's taste, but I agree with Dylan.  I shoot JPG+RAW, I shoot more than I need, I use the JPGs to rate shots and only PP the keepers in RAW.  Speed on the front end and power on the back end -- that combination has served me well.

I agree with distant.star's take on limiting the number of finished pictures.  Hell, I'm doing this for free!  :P

- A

I feel taking too many shots affects my composition and overall quality. I get fewer keepers when shooting more, than when I think twice before taking a shot.
I am sure it depends on the person involved.

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Hey gang,

I wasn't sure where to put this, sorry.

I am volunteering at a kids event this weekend and when they heard I was a photographer (full disclosure: natural light enthusiast only), they asked me to bring my rig and shoot the event.  I only have sketchy details, but here's what I know:

  • It will be a mixture of indoor and outdoor shooting.  Outdoors will be violently bright and indoors will be cavelike darkness (it's actually an aquarium).
  • There will be thousands of people there over the course of the event, so it will be some form of organized chaos in a walkaround 'capture what I can' sort of scenario.
  • The event will last 4-6 hours and I need to carry all my gear over that time -- no 100% safe bases of operations are available, and my car will be too far away.

So here's what I was planning on bringing:

  • 5D3
  • 600EX-RT with a Sto-Fen Omni Bounce
  • 16-35 F/4L IS
  • 24-70 F/4L IS
  • 70-200 F/2.8L IS II
  • Filters: CPL for outdoor shooting and UV for indoor shooting and handsy kid fingerprint insurance  :P.  The CPL might also be useful to shoot the exhibits through the glass if need be.
  • I may also bring some rain covers in case they need me to shoot near an open water habitat -- I'm waiting to hear back on that.

Questions:

1) Did I miss anything obvious?  (Note that I lack any (even basic) off-camera lighting tools like a bracket or ETTL cable.  So I'm hotshoe-ing the 600EX-RT or bust.)

2) I need to be able to carry everything around with me, so I don't want to go too heavy.  The 70-200 is heavy and likely will be overkill given how many people will be packed into this place.  Should I leave it out altogether to save weight, or would you bring it?

3) Should I even bother with a gray card to back out the interior lighting?  I think I'll be moving around to so many different spots that I won't have the time to use it.

Any advice is appreciated.

- A

FYI, this is the primary reason I got the 135L. If I need a longer lens (and in situations like this I do), and the 70-200 is a bit much to carry, the 135L is the perfect substitute if not better in certain situations.
A grey card is a good idea. I found it tedious at first, but then it becomes a habit. A single shot at the card every time light, or location changes. Saves you a lot of PP work.
An aquarium works only with bare-bulb type flash IMO, which is perfect for your Stofen setup.

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