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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D750 to be Canon 5D3 competitor?
« on: September 07, 2014, 07:32:44 PM »
I love my Mark III. But, I would love it even more if it would ALWAYS METER FROM THE SELECTED FOCUS POINT.

Man, I hear you on that.  It's a bummer when a third of my frames from a burst in Av mode on my 1DIV are blown out or under exposed when I'm set to spot metering. The 1DX links exposure metering to active AF point and there is no reason that needs to be an exclusively "pro" feature.  Hopefully its included in the 7DII and then every not-rebel from here on in.

Is it included in the D800/E/D810?
If not, sadly enough there is no incentive for Canon to put it in the non 1D bodies.
Think viewfinder shutter, for example, or face detection AF. At least these are present in the less expensive Nikon cameras.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D750 to be Canon 5D3 competitor?
« on: September 07, 2014, 06:11:03 PM »


Aye, I think this is Nikon's biggest problem. They have phenomenal technology to work with...they just aren't doing the market research necessary to package it up into a product that would sell like hotcakes year after year. Kind of sad...as if they DID, then could really put pressure on Canon to actually move their corporate ass on the sensor IQ front. Maybe the combined forces of Nikon, Sony, Pentax, and the others that are now using Exmors will put that pressure on.

The sad truth is that companies with great ideas and talented employees are often run by idiotic management teams. Reminds me of the demise of AMC (American Motors Corporation). After it went bankrupt and Chrysler bought them out, Chrysler execs were shocked at the caliber of engineering talent that went to waste for so many years. AMC developed the world's first full-time all-wheel drive system. Not Subaru :) This was made possible by an AMC-pioneered viscous center differential, which is used in just about every AWD road car and WRC Rally car today. AMC invented the modern SUV with the Cherokee and Wagoneer. AMC also invented the original military-grade H1 Hummer.

All that, and AMC still went out of business. Hopefully Nikon management will get it's act together, because someone has to continue applying pressure on Canon. As Canon users, we need Nikon to sell lots of cameras just as much as Nikon users do.   

Agree with that. Healthy competition is the biggest driver of innovation.
If the excellent R&D at Sony was coupled with great management, where would the company stand? Makes me so sad that the company that innovated portable music players, aren't even a player in that market. The company that created the first consumer-oriented luxury laptop had to sell its PC business. The company that created Trinitron had to split its TV business. Hopefully Nikon will not go that route.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D750 to be Canon 5D3 competitor?
« on: September 07, 2014, 04:24:49 PM »

I am sure if and when better sensors are developed, Canon will bring them out. But till then, let's face it- you either 'satisfice' yourself with the excellent tools they already have, or switch- as long as the benefits outweigh the costs.

... or, you bitch about it, since you neither want to switch (you've spent enough already), nor 'satisfice'.

And if someone else tells you that there's nothing to bitch about, they are completely wrong.
I am entitled to bitch as much as I want to - just because I am 8).

Hey, whatever makes you happy, man! Bitch away...

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D750 to be Canon 5D3 competitor?
« on: September 07, 2014, 03:43:42 PM »

So, I wonder why all these 'photographers who need the Exmor/DR/4K etc.' don't go out and buy the D800/E cameras?

Look, man, people stay with Canon in large part because of the excellent Canon lenses - not because they are OK with the sub-par performance of Canon sensors.

Is there a Canon lens introduced in the past 10 years that has been a dud?
Some of these lenses were overpriced at introduction (e.g. 24-70/4L, the wide IS primes).
But after the inevitable price correction, mostly all offer good value for their excellent performance.

In addition, Canon has been very smart about pushing video in their DSLRs.

Overall, there's plenty to like about Canon's system.
Canon has done quite a few things right  and that has obviously helped them maintain their leading market share.
No arguments about that.

But you guys take all this to mean that only few people care about DR and sensor performance in general.
That's definitely untrue.

People do care about DR and sensor performance and I strongly believe that the 7DII will prove this.
If it reuses the 70D sensor (as it appears from the rumored specs), I predict that this camera will be met with indifference - despite its excellent specs overall.

Also, as I said in another thread, the 5DIII successor is the camera that is most at risk for Canon if it doesn't deliver the high resolution and high DR that Canon users expect. We'll see.

But even if Canon continues to maintain its leading market share, there will be always users like me who would be critical of sensor performance if lags behind the competition.

What's wrong with asking that the vendor of my choices excels in both lenses and sensors? How is that unreasonable??

I bought into the Canon system because it was the best at the time (in my price bracket).
Why should I be happy that this is no longer the case - despite that Canon is maintaining their market share.
And why settle for sub-par sensor performance just because I like Canon lenses better??


You are right to ask for better sensor performance from Canon. I did, when I was still using APS-C. It is not unreasonable to ask.
However, it is unreasonable to bash Canon if you don't get what you ask.
Do you think Canon has developed the high-DR sensor tech in a cost-efficient manner and is just holding it back from us because it already has good sales? Or do you think they are holding off the sensor development because they think people won't want it/need it?

I am sure if and when better sensors are developed, Canon will bring them out. But till then, let's face it- you either 'satisfice' yourself with the excellent tools they already have, or switch- as long as the benefits outweigh the costs.
At the end, everything is has its trade-offs. Canon users wish the DR was better, Nikon users wish for better lenses (or something else), Sony users something else. You can't have it all, one way or the other.




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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D750 to be Canon 5D3 competitor?
« on: September 07, 2014, 03:36:12 PM »
Quote from: sagittariansrock link=topic=22585.msg434491#msg434491
Oh, really? And what argument is that? Surely couldn't be that Canon doesn't need to upgrade their sensor, because I stated in the same comment that I would like them to do so. So please enlighten me, if you would, what argument I so cleverly camouflaged!

It´s always used (meant) as a knockout argument.

And when people tell why they don´t switch, the next argument is that Canon can´t be that bad then. Otherwise they would switch.... no matter the cost or circumbendibus.

But changing camera systems is not as easy as buying a new TV or Smartphone.
Many canon user (and here i tell you shocking news when you really are that naiv) have invested a heavy sum into Canon gear over the years.

See... after all i gave you your answer.

If someone needs something really badly, they reinvest. Look at RLPhoto. He wanted medium format, he sold his 5DIII, his L lenses and got what he wanted.
If someone uses Canon for a lot of things, and likes a lot of things about Canon, and wants them to change a few things for the better, their comments reflect that. Look at Jon Rista's posts, for example. 99.5% of his posts contribute positively to the forum, so when he complains about Canon DR in the remaining 0.5% we know he doesn't frequent the forums for that sole purpose. And I respect that.
Yes, Canon isn't that bad. In fact, it isn't bad at all- it is very good. But as a user of the 5D II, you already know that- so I don't even need to bother wasting my time arguing about it.

My sympathies for the people who hate their jobs and still have to stick to it. It is not a good position to be in. I hope you have an easier time switching to Nikon/Sony/etc.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D750 to be Canon 5D3 competitor?
« on: September 07, 2014, 03:08:21 PM »


It's neither lame, nor an argument. It is a question.


It not a honest question, it´s a camouflaged argument.
And no i will not repeat it the 1001 time for you. Im sure you will get the answer sooner or later. :)


Oh, really? And what argument is that? Surely couldn't be that Canon doesn't need to upgrade their sensor, because I stated in the same comment that I would like them to do so. So please enlighten me, if you would, what argument I so cleverly camouflaged!

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D750 to be Canon 5D3 competitor?
« on: September 07, 2014, 02:59:06 PM »
So, I wonder why all these 'photographers who need the Exmor/DR/4K etc.' don't go out and buy the D800/E cameras?

That lame argument again?

I think you got that questions answered a thousand times already.
When you did not get it until now, it will not help to repeat it another time.  ::)

It's neither lame, nor an argument. It is a question.
And if you are so sure I have gotten my answer, why don't you provide it for the thousand and one-th time? Just humor me?
If there is a camera that clearly meets your needs, why don't you go and buy it, and use it, and quit whining?

I would love for Canon to bring out a high DR, high MP, etc. camera as much as the next person, but that doesn't mean I am not immensely satisfied with what I have. I praise Nikon cameras without bashing Canon ones, unlike some people ^.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D750 to be Canon 5D3 competitor?
« on: September 07, 2014, 02:04:19 PM »
Canon loose major part of users because of nikon d800/E/810 project.

In a recent quarterly analyst call, Canon mentioned increased sales of higher end models (including 5DIII) as a positive sign despite lower dSLR sales overall.  During their corresponding analyst call, Nikon mentioned reduced sales of 'higher end models' which included the D800/E (this was prior the D810, but that model is quite new).

So, Canon said sales in that segment are better, Nikon said they are worse.  So...can I ask...where is your evidence for Canon 'losing a major portion of users' to Nikon in the 5DIII/D8x0 segment?

Wow, such great news!!!! Because we all know, as photographers, that we take pictures with market share and shoot video with Canon executive salaries. I mean who needs a dumb Exmor and the great DR or high MP and who needs 4k video when you can shoot and film with market share and executive salaries!!

Gosh, why I do so ever hope they give us more of the same old sensors and 1080p video.


So, I wonder why all these 'photographers who need the Exmor/DR/4K etc.' don't go out and buy the D800/E cameras?
That would provide Nikon with some (much needed?) revenue, and reduce the number of people trolling the CANONrumors forum with grumbles, gripes and whines.

On point, I am glad Nikon has come up with a D700 replacement. The specs look great. I am sure Canon will also come up with a higher MP FF when they are ready with the technology.

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The header might be somewhat misleading. The comparison between the Nikon and Canon zoom counterparts are somewhat academic (or for the show), with comparison only at a single focal length. The real comparison is between the standard vs tele zoom at the common focal length, i.e., 70mm. So one can always argue putting a camera into the equation might not have altered the results. Thing is, the cameras aren't there because the testing paradigm doesn't require them, not because Roger wanted to keep them out of the equation.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Features seen in the past and absent today
« on: September 07, 2014, 01:11:00 AM »
I wonder why canon packed older cameras with some very useful features that are totally absent in modern cameras. Here I refer to the Canon EOS 1D released in 2001 vs modern professional canon cameras.

I refer strictly to:

1/16,000 shutter speed
X-sync speed 1/500

I would think its to do with it being APS, smaller, lighter shutter, less distance to travel etc. Not on modern pro APS now due to cost / usage considerations I would think.
The 1D was an APS-H body with an electronic shutter.

Quick bit of research; also used CCD rather than CMOS which allowed the use of an electronic shutter. So as CMOS replaced CDD those features were lost.

D810 has electronic front curtain shutter. I don't know how that differs from the D40 though, since the D810 still has an x-sync speed of 1/250.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Which body to bring
« on: September 06, 2014, 10:17:47 PM »
Unless you ask a7 vs 1dx/5dIII, otherwise, can you really go wrong with 1DX ::)

If I have to shoot with DSLR, the X would be my 1st choice ;)

I thought that would be the answer but the 5d is lighter and like I said it will be hot but this would be a rare opportunity to focus on photography so excited about the 1d. Only thing is I only have one battery but charged daily should be fine.

I was bringing
16-35 f4 is
24-70 2.8
70-200 2.8
35mm 1.4

Too much?


So many lenses, and just one body?

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Lenses / Re: 35mm f/1.4 L to 16-35mm f/4 L
« on: September 06, 2014, 02:10:54 PM »
Been reading the reviews of the 16-35mm f/4 L IS and it looks like its a winner, even better than the f/2.8 USM II.  I have a 35mm f/1.4 and would like to trade it to the 16-35 f/4 L IS.  I would love to have a wider angle lens to add to my arsenal 

Question 1:  Is that a wise decision?
Question 2:  Do I keep the 35mm f/1.4 L lens and get a wide prime lens like the 14mm f/2.8L or 24 f/1.4L?

Would appreciate very much your comments and opinions.

Thanks and best regards from Manila Philippines

I had the thought for a bit when I was trying to decide if I should spend the money put away for the 35/1.4 to buy the 16-35/4 IS instead. In the end I decided not to. Here's why:
1. The 35/1.4 has unique functions that none of my f/2.8 or f/4 zooms can deliver (shallow DoF, low-light ability, etc.)
2. On FF, 24mm is sufficiently wide and I have the 24-70 zoom for that.
3. When I need to go wider (rarely), I have the manual focus 14/2.8.

Here's why a 16-35/4 would have made sense:
1. If I needed to go wider than 24mm very often.
2. If I didn't EVER need fast lenses.
3. If I didn't have the 24-70 zoom.

So if you do have a 24-xx zoom then get the 14/2.8L
If you regularly shoot wide get the 16-35 in addition to your prime
If you regularly shoot wide and rarely shoot in low light or need the shallow DoF, get the 16-35 and sell the 35
I can't comment on the usefulness of a 24/1.4. I don't see any but many people do. They'd probably be of more help there.

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Photography Technique / Re: Ballhead or Gimbal?
« on: September 06, 2014, 01:37:41 PM »
Wow! A lot of choices.... many ways to spend money!!! ;)
I am looking for videos to show how a leveling base works, what does it exactly do? I am guessing to level the tripod without having to making minor changes to the legs....
My intent always is to keep it simple and not have too many things lying around so was thinking of getting one setup and be able to use it for all purposes. The gimbal may not fit that totally but close. As long as I don't have to carry both, I am ok. The only other thing I will be looking for is a really low and small tripod which will go low with a small footprint. I'll look at the other suggestions too.
Thanks a lot!
Ray

Here's a video showing the leveling base being used with a gimbal head. As you can see, this is the RRS modifiable gimbal head Neuro was talking about.

Series 2 Leveling Base & Leveling Base Clamp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewn3iHpw8NI

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No price yet?  $5K, $10K?

If one has to ask, he probably can't afford it...  :'(

Affording is the question, do I want to afford it (cut out other expenses)?

Do I want to cut a couple of vacations or a few month's rent or a year's grocery. Nope, not me.

The reference was to a statement attributed to JP Morgan by the way- "if you have to ask, you can't afford it."

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I feel taking too many shots affects my composition and overall quality. I get fewer keepers when shooting more, than when I think twice before taking a shot.
I am sure it depends on the person involved.

I would tend to agree but only to a point.  I shoot more than some, less than others.  My bigger concern, esp with flash, is the distraction I cause the event itself with flash or shutter noise.  But when I restrict myself too much, I find I miss good shots.  It's a balancing act for sure!

Yup, it's a bell-shaped curve :)

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