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He is doing is exactly what I want to see. RAW to RAW comparisons. Other places are comparing out of camera JPEG's.
yeah, i always shoot raw, so that's what i want to see.Don't we all?
When Canon release their high MP camera, it still won't matter much, because I seriously doubt that they will be able to match the DR output of Nikon's (Sonys) new sensors.D800 is the obvious answer. It has everything that the 5D3 has, + more, and at a lower price. Most importantly, the D800 has wider dynamic range at low ISO, and captures way more detail.
The 5D3 is a sports / photojournalism / general purpose camera.
I'm selling all my gear right now and moving to Nikon for the D800.
Will you come back to Canon in six months when they release their high megapixel camera?
Just more megapixels is NOT ENOUGH.Agreed.
We want better dyanmic range (DR) and lower noise - and in raw files, not JPEG!.
Without those, more megapixels holds questionable value, just the same as the 5D3 is of questionable value for large numbers of 5D2 owners - the images that come out are roughly the same, so upgrading is based entirely on whether you need/want the other attributes of the 5D3.
The real D800 competiror is the 7D mk II.The 7D II will be a crop camera, so no.
disappointing results at ISO 100:
banding:
horizontal banding appears to be entirely removed, this is good, and will help make ISO look better and get less badly clumped chroma noise and all but vertical banding appears to be zero improved and it shows up enough that I don't think you gain any usable amount of low ISO DR back compared to the 5D2
so for low ISO I'm not sure the removal of horizontal banding alone will really help usable DR any since the vertical sticks out to the eye just as much, maybe here on there on parts of the image it might help
DR:
5D2: 15760,1024,6.1 AU,3.8 8MP normalized ADU, DR - 11.2 , DR8MP - 11.9
5D3: 15309 (maybe the channels were still not quite blown though?),2048, 6.6 ADU, 6.4 normalized to 5D2 6.4 and then to 8MP 3.96, DR- 11.0 DRto5D2 - 11.0 DR8MP - 11.7
and let us say WP should be 15760 instead then DR8MP - 11.8
and let us even say it should be max 14bit 16383 - 11.8
so I actually get fractionally worse DR than for the 5D2, but it's for all intents, the exact same, within copy to copy variation and well within any difference you'd be able to notice
Sad to say but even the DX D7000 handily beats the latest Canon FF for DR, and not by a little. The D800, at 100% view, full 50% MP advantage may beat it by 2 stops, maybe even 2.5 usable stops.
I did not expect this at all.
(the high iso side of things should turn out more favorable though, most likely)
Oh yes "we" do.QuoteThe D800 does 5 FPS in 1.2 crop mode and will still outperform 5D3 in IQ at low ISO
Well we still don't know this for sure
If you need deep shadow recovery without banding, use a converter that can do it. They exist.Interesting.
It's a damn' sight cheaper than jumping ship, and a damn' sight less stressful than the photographer wasting his life away waiting for Canon to produce the perfect camera.
