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EOS Bodies / Re: New Cinema Camera & Lenses for NAB 2013

« on: February 12, 2013, 09:47:29 AM »

In other words, Canon will soon have 3 dedicated cinema bodies in the market, but still no dedicated landscape / studio body?.. Yawn.  This is just another sign that they shifting away from stills, and more towards video.

How about announcing the 14-24L, or at least letting us know if there is a big MP body coming this year or the next?

5D3X, 5D4 or whatever the name is. I need it naow!! 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Megapixel Camera in 2014

« on: February 10, 2013, 08:29:34 PM »

For the 5DC, 7D and rebel-crowd, I'm sure the 5D3 is a great upgrade.

...and for the 5DII crowd who shoot things that move. 

Edited. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Megapixel Camera in 2014

« on: February 10, 2013, 08:16:31 PM »

I've even read that the 5D3 is useless, that's a very bold statement.

Not bold at all, if it comes from a 5D2 owner who mainly shoots studio work, or tripod based landscapes (99% of photos below ISO 200).

For us, the 5D3 is a rather 'useless' camera in terms of upgrade. We don't need 61 pt AF, more speed, or gimmicks like rate button and in camera HDR. What we need is improvement in IQ, more resolution, more low ISO dynamic range, and a 100% fix for the horrible and well known pattern noise in shadow areas.

To the sports crowd, journalists or people upgrading from the 5DC, 7D and rebel-crowd, I am sure the 5D3 is a great upgrade.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Megapixel Camera in 2014

« on: February 10, 2013, 05:55:58 PM »

If they do have some much better sensors coming out then I'd bet you the 5D3 will be replaced in less time than 5D2 to 5D3. If anything, I think it would be laughable to think otherwise (unless they also shift it a bit and give it a different name than the 5D4, but whatever it gets called no way it will take as long as 5D2 to 5D3 did or even 5D to 5D2 time). I'd be shocked if it doesn't arrive 2014 (two years vs 3.5 and 3 years).

Exactly!

And the longer they take, the more they'll have to do to catch up.

Nikon and Sony aren't resting on their laurels, just because Canon has fallen behind. By 2014, the D4x and D900 will likely be on the horizon, as well as whatever Sony decide to do with the 36MP Exmor or it's successor.

Tick tock, Canon. It is time to replace your decade-old sensor technology.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Megapixel Camera in 2014

« on: February 10, 2013, 09:37:41 AM »

Yep.  The 50% faster frame rate, better sealing, better viewfinder, dual card slots, shutter lag reduced by half, better metering, better ergonomics including a multicontroller on the grip, etc., it does seem like Canon ignored everything but the AF.  Right.

And rate button! You forgot the rate button!

On a more serious note, it is funny how all of those things that you mentioned are of very little importance to me and most of my photography friends. I'll admit that the improved sealing is nice to have, but the rest of it is hardly a deal maker.

I'm not saying that the 5D3 is a bad camera, but it is still a very incremental upgrade from the 5D2. And compared to the advancements of the main competition, it just doesn't stand out. The 5D3 offers absolutely nothing to improve the IQ of my photos.

I welcome a quick replacement, or a 5D3X.

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Reviews / Re: Why I Chose a Canon EOS 6D over a 5D MKIII

« on: February 08, 2013, 06:29:24 PM »

Without reading your review, the number one reason people pick 6D over 5D III is the PRICE TAG.

Samething for Tammy 24-70 f2.8 VC over Canon f2.8 II

Don't be so sure. I've seen many who picked the 6D because it has better IQ (dynamic range, high ISO noise) than the 5D3.

Think about it - not everyone is fond of shooting sports and weddings. If "super duper AF" and FPS is not important, then why pay 1000 bucks more for a bigger and heavier camera, with less IQ? Yes, even if it is just marginally less.

To a lot of people (me included) IQ is the highest of all priorities.

Better IQ and higher ISO? that what current 6D owners want&wish to hear 

I see. Well then, I guess there is no point in arguing with you, since you obviously don't know the facts.

But perhaps it's for the best. 

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Reviews / Re: Why I Chose a Canon EOS 6D over a 5D MKIII

« on: February 08, 2013, 05:53:03 PM »

Without reading your review, the number one reason people pick 6D over 5D III is the PRICE TAG.

Samething for Tammy 24-70 f2.8 VC over Canon f2.8 II

Don't be so sure. I've seen many who picked the 6D because it has better IQ (dynamic range, high ISO noise) than the 5D3.

Think about it - not everyone is fond of shooting sports and weddings. If "super duper AF" and FPS is not important, then why pay 1000 bucks more for a bigger and heavier camera, with less IQ? Yes, even if it is just marginally less.

To a lot of people (me included) IQ is the highest of all priorities.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 6D pattern noise compared to 5D2, the info you won't get from DxO

« on: February 07, 2013, 06:58:33 PM »

What if Canon simply ditched the 5D3's sensor and put the 6D's sensor in it? I mean, same body, same AF system, everything, but made all 5D3s with the 6D's sensor from now on... Same sensor size, same company... Is it feasible, on the technical side?
Daniel

It would mess up the video being only 20MP instead of 22MP. Not 100% sure it could drive the 6fps either, might need more readouts added (might be require only a modest little fix in the grand scheme of things though).

I don't get why they didn't just make the 6D sensor 22MP instead of 20MP and just use the same one in both cameras. Very bizarre.

And that is at the heart of what got me when doing research.  The 6D wasn't even on my radar, but as I actually researched the key things that matter to me (IQ being #1), there wasn't really a clear pecking order between the 5D3 and the 6D.  The 5D3 is the better camera...but not in every way.  The 6D was not just a "dumbed down" 5DIII.  In some ways it is actually a superior camera; in others it is considerably inferior.  I was dead set on buying a 5D3 until I did the research and discovered that (at least for my actual purposes) the 6D might actually be the preferred camera.  While I have not yet used a 5DIII, I can safely say that I am very happy with my purchase of the 6D.

But my point is that Canon has really muddied the waters for potential customers like myself.  If the 5D3 was clearly superior in every way, I would be purchasing one right now.  It's not, so I didn't.  Was that in Canon's best interest?

That is why I believe the 5D3 was rushed, in order to go up against the D800, and thus "stealing some of the spotlight" from Nikon.

It is an ugly theory, but it also makes perfect sense.

I also believe that the 5D3 will have a much shorter product cycle than the previous 5D-cameras. A replacement (the 5DX?) will most likely come sooner than later.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 6D pattern noise compared to 5D2, the info you won't get from DxO

« on: February 07, 2013, 04:32:44 PM »

Marsu: Could you please link some of those comparisons between the 6D and 5D3? I mean one that proves the 5D3 is sharper?

I have searched but did not find any.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 6D pattern noise compared to 5D2, the info you won't get from DxO

« on: February 07, 2013, 03:59:53 PM »

What if Canon simply ditched the 5D3's sensor and put the 6D's sensor in it? I mean, same body, same AF system, everything, but made all 5D3s with the 6D's sensor from now on... Same sensor size, same company... Is it feasible, on the technical side?
Daniel

That'd be very nice, but it ain't gonna happen.

A lot of people who already bought the 5D3 would go berserk! Even the ones who claim that they are perfectly happy with the current sensor, and that they don't need more DR for "their shooting style". They would instantly change their mind and start whining.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 6D pattern noise compared to 5D2, the info you won't get from DxO

« on: February 07, 2013, 02:54:04 PM »

I've been looking for some downloadable 6D raw-files for hours, but haven't been able to find any.

Can someone here be so kind and upload a couple of raw files for me? ISO 100 - 400.

You can use quick file sharing services like http://www.zippyshare.com/ or http://www.sendspace.com/

I just want to play around with the sliders in Lightroom and see how the files hold up.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 6D pattern noise compared to 5D2, the info you won't get from DxO

« on: February 07, 2013, 12:59:20 PM »

Thanks for the info!

It sounds like Canon rushed the 5D3, in order top stop Nikon D800 from "stealing the whole show".

The 6D sensor should clearly have been in the 5D3, and the 5D3 sensor in the 6D.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Megapixel Camera in 2014

« on: February 07, 2013, 08:51:49 AM »

I'm looking forward to it, and will certainly buy one. Canon does a careful job of maintaining its product line and leaking out features, so in another year we'll have another round of features and high MP to boot. What's not to like?

I hope its in a 1D body too, I've always wanted one of those. Given its targeted at the Studio/Fashion/Landscape shooters it makes sense.

Does not make sense at all. I am a landscape and studio photographer, and I want the high MP body to be 5D-sized. If I could have it 100% my way, the high MP body would be rebel sized, but well built and weather sealed.

When I am out and about, I want my gear to be as light and portable as possible, especially when I'm hiking for some landscape photos. When / if I want the extra size, I can easily add a battery grip.

I had the 1DS before, and I swear it was my first and last camera of that size. :p

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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Megapixel Camera in 2014

« on: February 07, 2013, 04:31:17 AM »

I love the idea of a 5DX, and I really hope that Canons high MP body brings some improved DR and IQ together with all that resolution. If they release a high resolution camera with the same old low ISO DR and banding issues from the 5D2 / 5D3, it will be a complete waste.

I also hope they follow Nikon's example with the D800E, and give us a special edition without the image softening AA-filter. I couldn't care less about video performance, and the occasional moiré in photos can easily be removed with new tools in Lightroom.

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Canon General / Re: Physical Ailments From Heavy Gear

« on: February 05, 2013, 05:24:44 AM »

This is why I'm thinking about switching to full frame mirrorless later this year or the next. Leica and Sony have already proven that FF can be small and light.. Right now, uber expensive Leica is the only choice, but rumor is that Sony and Fuji will release their compact FF systems very soon. 

At the moment, I'm carrying my 5D2, 70-200 f/2.8 II, 35L, 24L, Macbook Air, + filters and accessories inside a Thinktank shoulderbag.. It is pure torture for my shoulders, and I don't think it is good for my physical health.