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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Why haven't you left canon?
« on: September 27, 2014, 09:48:31 AM »
I don't feel the need to switch at all. If I did buy into another system it would only be to compliment my Canon gear like buying a A7r for example. Everything I have works perfectly, I don't think any of my Canon gear has ever let me down. Very reliable, frustration free, easy to navigate menus and beautiful ergonomics. Why would I give that up?

I think the 7D is what really got me hooked, just loved that thing when I first got it. Then the feeling of owning my first L lens too. Not sure Nikon would be able to fulfill my lens lust tbh! I have an amazon wish list specifically for Canon superteles just to look at and admire! (Don't judge me!).

More recently the EOS M + 11-22mm lens has rekindled my love for photography. And the 22mm pancake is awesome at parties and small events.

EOS Bodies / Re: Poll: Would you buy a high MP Canon EOS 5DIV?
« on: September 27, 2014, 02:51:06 AM »
It doesn't matter what I want. The 5D III was targeted to wedding and event photographers and its features have made it a must have among that group, by giving them a competitive advantage over photographers not using the 5D III. In contrast the Nikon 800 series has struggled to find an audience because it's features simply aren't targetted to a clear audience of significant size.

I am guessing that Canon will not abandon that audience but rather try to develop features that continues to give wedding and event photographers using canon a competitive advantage. It seems to me the biggest problem these photographers have today is that brides want pictures up on Facebook immediately (as in before the ceremony ends) and their friends can do it with their cellphones more quickly than the person they are paying to shoot the wedding can do it. The first manufacturer who can help pro photographers get images posted to social media as quickly and seamlessly as the wedding guest using an iPhone will have a winner in the marketplace. That's the sort of thing that will sell cameras, not megapixels, dynamic range, etc.

People on this forum can continue to whine, but it's that ability to help photographers meet the demands of their customers that should be the primary goal of Canon or any other company. That means integrated wifi, that is intuitive and quick, most likely with a touch screen interface and maybe even a simple photo editing program built into the camera's software.

That would be pretty sweet if it could give you a share option when you're in the image preview screen. Or a dedicated share button that brings up a submenu with facebook or whatever when the camera is connected to a wifi hotspot or tethered to your phone. That way you could be shooting RAW files and be sharing select jpegs on the go. That would also mean people that aren't there get to see the highlights or BTS shots of an event as it happens.

I'm actually glad Canon aren't using Sony sensors for their DSLRs (and EOS M). Would we have had DPAF if they had given up and said "Ah, forget it. We suck at making sensors, let's just use Sony's."?

For compact cameras most consumers don't give a s___ so yeah stick a bunch of Sony sensors in those lines, what have you got to lose? Canon compact die hard fanboys??  :o yeah I don't think so!

It was probably cheaper to just buy the 1" sensor from Sony anyway. Makes sense. Now Canon have a competitor to the RX100 line using Sony's own sensor against them! Ha!  :P

I do think Canon need to buckle down and sort out their high end sensors though. If they think they're the best in the world they have a very inflated view of their technology or they are completely ignorant. Instead of milking their current sensors to death it's high time they put some of that R&D time into keeping up with the competition. They're not far behind now but interviews like the one posted by DP review are not encouraging at all.

I think someone in head office is keeping a tight grip of the purse strings. Or they've locked up their engineers. Let them loose! Let them create!! Ugh! Having lived in Japan and worked for a Japanese company for over 4 years I see a lot of similarities in the style of business here. Innovation is just not recognized, nurtured or rewarded well. It's a lot of recycling old crap and maximizing what you have.

At least Samsung are trying. (Yes, I know they're a Korean company).

I should add - I respect Sony, as a Japanese company, throwing all kinds a new stuff our way (some of it half baked) but still exciting and fun. Great sensors but they have the worst menu systems and crap ergonomics. They're PC and TV business is dead and they can't think of decent names for consoles other than numbers but I love them for pushing the boundaries. Someone one at Canon has got to notice that and call in some reinforcements (people with creativity? ). Right??

EOS Bodies / Re: Poll: Would you buy a high MP Canon EOS 5DIV?
« on: September 26, 2014, 11:35:20 AM »
I'm holding out for a 5DIV in the hopes of it having significantly better IQ over the MkII that I have. Not concerned with megapixels at this moment in my photographic life. The 20 or so that I have now seems to work just fine, I would be fine with something like 24MP. Anything more would mean upgrading my laptop, software and getting more HD's etc etc.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: POLL: What's more important, gps or wifi?
« on: September 23, 2014, 12:45:33 PM »
I don't want or need WiFi but I understand the use for it so I won't begrudge anyone who wants it. As for GPS, I'd want that but we've all seen how poor Canon's GPS implementation has always been. Craptastic at best. What I'd really like to see is Direct transfer of files via USB to my smartphone. Phones can get 128GB of MicroSD storage and have beefy quad-core CPUs, so why not? It would certainly be faster than WiFi. Another option would be USB2Go drives that could plug into a Canon camera and the camera would transfer the files to the flash drive.

You can transfer from camera to iPad using the USB connector cable but it's really slow when transferring full size RAW files. I haven't tried WiFi (my cameras sadly don't have WiFi) to compare. Maybe someone else can quote times. I'd imagine a phone to be just as slow via cable if it were possible. I use Sandisk Extreme Pro SD cards so not sure where the slowdown is occuring.

I guess having the option to send images via cable to a phone direct would be nice. Surely some Android phones can do this, no?

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: POLL: What's more important, gps or wifi?
« on: September 23, 2014, 02:49:31 AM »
You missed another option:  Don't give a damn about either of them.

I have GPS in my Car and My phone why do I need another one in my camera.  What's next one in my shoes?

WiFi Not sure why I need that in a camera either.
    Sometime, I also wonder this when I wear my watch... my phone got clock, my camera got clock, my GPS unit got clock and even my bluetooth earpiece also got clock, so why am I wearing the watch??? Ha ha ha ;D ;D ;D Hmm... May be the only reason I can think of why I wear my watch is that the battery life of my watch outlast all the above device as the watch had auto solar cell charging (basically will last as long as the watch is working), so if one day I forgot to charge all the above device, I still had my watch... ha ha ha

   Have a nice day.

The watch is just a quick glance away compared to other devices such as your phone which could be in a pocket. Though i think habit has a lot to do with it. Even with my phone in my hand, sitting on a train, I always instinctvely glance at my watch to check the time so I don't miss my stop.

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Sigma Opens Up About Their Roadmap
« on: September 22, 2014, 12:12:27 PM »
A 24-70 f/2 would be very nice!

i understand that it is very difficult, but i don't know why.  i know that a 24-70 1.4 would be everyone's dream lens, and i know that it probably won't ever happen.  is that solely because of the size and weight (and cost) that the lens would be, or is it just too difficult/impossible to do?

It's likely possible to make it but IQ would probably suck. Just look at what it takes to make a decent 50mm f/1.4 that's sharp wide open and has minimal CA etc. now try and imagine the complexities of achieving that over a focal range from very wide to short telephoto. With all the extra glass to correct the aberrations it would make it really heavy too. So you'd have a large, heavy, (prob) slow AF zoom lens that's overpriced and performs quite poorly. Doesn't sound like any dream lens I want. There have to be compromises and I guess they're trying to find that sweet spot. Maybe it's f/2 or maybe f/2.8? Who knows, at least they're trying and that's the real exciting part!   

EOS Bodies / Re: Am I the only one excited about the new 7D mk2?
« on: September 22, 2014, 12:00:20 PM »
For what it is I think it will be a great camera.  Personally I am still hoping for a true 1D4 successor with a 1.6x crop -- that is integrated grip, weather sealing, build, 1 Series focus drive / response and shorter viewfinder blackout but with a crop sensor for wildlife work in nasty weather.  Not sure I'd trust the build of the 7D II to stand up to really adverse conditions.
Did you ever see the torture test that Digital Rev did on the original 7D?  It was very tough so with even better sealing on the MKII, it should stand up to just about anything.
That does not give you the 1 body though and speaking of, why not a one body crop?  Too low demand I would guess but I don't know.
As far as my excitement, when I saw the button layout being like the 5d MKIII I was very interested.

I really loved the bit where they froze the 7D in a block of ice, thawed it out and continued shooting (though it was probably busted but still impressive that it fired up at all!).

So yeah, the mark II should be as hard as nails. Unless you are going swimming in molten lava with one, I think it'll be just fine  ;)

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Tamron 15-30mm f/2.8 VC Gets First Test
« on: September 22, 2014, 11:48:55 AM »
I know this sounds a little weird, but using my Sigma 15mm f/2.8 fisheye has almost totally eliminated my desire for an ultrawide.  I rarely use my 17-40L anymore, and I think this lens is in the same category.  The fish is great optically, and defishing is so easy in Lightroom now that I can do it with no effort when I want a rectilinear image.  Yeah, I lose a lot of pixels when cropping to 15mm or 24mm equivalent (half and three-quarters, respectively) but I rarely find that to be a problem, and I can usually overlap with my standard zoom (starting at 24mm) when I really do need the pixels.

I'm currently considering selling all my lenses but two, and those two are the 70-200/2.8L IS II and the Sigma 15mm fisheye.  I'd be replacing that middle range with either the Tamron 24-70/2.8VC or the rumored Sigma 24-70/2 OS.

I'm the same but only with the SY 14mm. Coupled to a standard zoom it's a very light and capable combo. I hardly ever use the 17-40L now and for my last vacation I didn't even bother taking it. You're right about the cropping, taking it down to about 17mm from 14mm isn't a problem at all. Between 17mm and 24mm I don't find much going on. Either I want ultra wide, or wide.

I did find IS quite useful on the EF-M 11-22 lens and I'm very curious about this new Tamron vs the 16-35 IS. What I found about the IS was that I kept wanting a third point of contact (my eye socket) to stabilize it further. But even without it was possible to get an acceptably sharp shot at 1s.

EOS Bodies / Re: Am I the only one excited about the new 7D mk2?
« on: September 22, 2014, 03:24:07 AM »
I feel as if (and this only my opinion which is worthless) the ones doing the crying are not the people who the 7DII is aimed for.

You have landscapers moaning about only 20Mpix and the usual DR nonsense.

Then you have videographers banging on about the lack of 4K.

Meanwhile sports / wildlife photographers are quietly pre-ordering. If I was a sports photographer I'd be pretty excited to have the 7D II either as a back up or main camera. I have a feeling once some solid reviews come around and people get to feel how easy the camera is to work with (loved my 7D ergonomics) things will calm down.

I thought the 7D was an amazing camera but on paper when it was compared to say a 60D there didn't seem to be all that much different. Once you actually use the 7D you start to realize that it's a beast and is built to last. The IQ was it's Achilles heel but hopefully that issue will be addressed to a satisfactory level and what we'll get is a highly refined machine! 

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: POLL: What's more important, gps or wifi?
« on: September 22, 2014, 12:16:21 AM »
GPS not that important for me but WiFi would be as I could shoot remotely using my phone. Also the ability to review images on your phone while the camera is in your bag is a nice feature while your traveling around. I think everything should have some kind of wireless connectivity. There really was no excuse for excluding it on the 7DII.

EOS Bodies / Re: Official: Canon EOS 7D Mark II
« on: September 20, 2014, 03:36:40 AM »
I'm sure there are multiple factors that go into it.

Location, for example. I live in Colorado...big landscape state. I think people also generally look to DSLRs to give them better landscape photos than their phones. Once mirrorless quality kicks up, I suspect most will go for the smaller, more portable and easier to use mirrorless options instead of DSLRs. We also have plenty of wildlife here, and two large migration seasons for birds. I see a LOT of average people at the local state parks photographing birds and wildlife with DSLRs and moderately long telephoto lenses.

I imagine things could be different in big cities. People always on the move, the inconvenience of draping a large, heavy camera over your neck in thick crowds, etc. I imagine smaller cameras are probably more desirable there. I don't know for sure...don't like cities much myself, I avoid them. I live in Colorado, and I've barely been to downtown Denver. When I go, it's in for work, out as soon as I can be. :P But it definitely seems like a very different environment, and I can't say I see many people walking around with big cameras.

Still, I see the ILC market as a whole as a big market that still has growth potential. I think economies are still contracting somewhat, and still trying to settle from the recessions. I think there have been BIG demographic shifts among large population groups who have shifted from high paying jobs to low paying jobs, no jobs, or retirement. That changes sales trends. Once that whole shakeout is done, and new generations start moving into the market, I think ILC sales will pick up. It's possible new generations would prefer different kinds of cameras as well...mirrorless over DSLR, highly connected (i.e. WiFi or even LTE web access for direct publishing of photos to online profiles like instagram), etc. New markets as well, with asian and indian markets growing considerably.

Yeah, that last point about connectivity is a good one and something smartphones do exceptionally well. A lot of times I find myself grabbing my iPhone and snapping a pic of a product I want to sell (like on a used items forum) or a document (such as an ID card for work) I want to quickly email as it eliminates that extra step of transferring it to a computer. Combine that ability with something like a G7 X and hell yeah I'll take some of that! Getting your media to the masses as soon as things happen seems to be the trend nowadays rather than three weeks later when no one really cares.

Lee Jay I can't imagine having a cellphone for 7 years!  :o  so curious, what kind is it??

EOS-M / Re: EOS M Accessory question
« on: September 20, 2014, 03:15:49 AM »
Just got the EOS M + 22mm. Like it and will keep it for the long term, so now need to think about accessories.

4. Bag: Neuro earlier had mentioned the Dashpoint 20. Any other suggestions?

Thanks, all, in advance.

The Dashpoint 20 is a good fit for the M+22.  I use a hard case for storage and travel with my M system now.  I use the Think Tank Mirrorless Mover 20 to carry the M, 2 lenses, batteries, etc when I'm out and about.  I also have a 3" aluminum rod tube to carry my M, 2 lenses, and accessories when I'm hiking/backpacking.

+1 for the Think Tank Mirrorless Mover. I have the 100 so it's small enough to fit inside a larger backpack for flying and traveling etc. It just fits camera, 22/2 and 11-22 with hood.

EOS Bodies / Re: Official: Canon EOS 7D Mark II
« on: September 19, 2014, 11:13:11 PM »
I don't think that most enthisiasts, semi-pros, or pros are going to sit on a camera body for ten years. I think your average consumer tends to churn through cameras at a pretty fast rate as well, although there are certainly some who stick with what they've got as long as they can to get the most for their money.

The vast majority of dSLR purchasers never buy another one.  Only pros and genuine enthusiasts do.  Of all the people I know that have dSLRs, almost all of them still use the first one they ever bought.  I'll provide a list of people I know, aside from me - 10D, D70, 5DII, Rebel XT, 300D, T2i, T4i.  In fact, of everyone I know, only one person aside from me has ever "upgraded" and that was to move from Canon (40D) to Nikon (D200 - still using that one).  And my upgrade was from 10D to 5D when the 5D first came out.

This next path (looking like 20D+5D to 7D2+6D) will be my first body upgrade since 2005.  I've cycled through a great many lens changes since my first DSLR purchase (17-40L, 28-135IS, 75-300IS, 50/1.8, 50/1.4, 35/2, 35/1.4L, Sigma 20/1.8, Sigma 15mm fisheye, 100/2, 85/1.8, 24-105L, 70-200/2.8L IS, 70-200/2.8L IS II, Tamron 1.4x, Tamron 2x, Kenko Pro 1.4x, Canon 1.4x II Canon 2x III, Meade ETX-125PE, Celestron Edge HD 11).

I'm with Jrista on this one based on my experience and living in Japan where buying a new camera every 6 months seems to be the norm. My 5D2 feels very outdated amongst the multitude of 6D and 5D3's out there (some of them are definitely not pro). Perhaps in the past people held on to their gear for longer but (mainly thanks to Sony) things are changing rapidly so naturally folk want to keep up. I can't imagine keeping my 5D2 (which I bought 2 years ago) for any longer than another year, simply because by then it will be really hard to sell.

Also camera's have come down in price considerably so it's easier to justify a new purchase. I went through 3 bodies in 4 years, not even including my EOS M. And I consider that conservative. It's like PCs and laptops now. Who keeps a laptop for 10 years? Yeah it works but why burden yourself with slow ass gear when you can buy the latest for a few hundred bucks?

My longest kept electronic device is a hi-fi that my dad bought me about 20 years ago. Still works (but the speakers gave way ages ago). I only kept it for sentimental reasons. The thing is giant and a first generation iPod could easily outperform it! So in that respect I get why someone might keep a camera for ages.

Lenses / Re: Lenses that you want Canon to release next
« on: September 18, 2014, 01:43:54 AM »
50mm / 85mm prime updates to the IS versions would be very welcome. The fifty is long long long overdue IMO. I'm not feelin the large and expensive Sigma. I want something the size of the EF 50mm 1.4 that's same price as the 35IS.

Anything wide would also be nice such as a 14-24mm, though it might be out of my price range. I guess the 16-35 f/4L IS is filling the ultra wide needs for the time being so I doubt we'll see another ultra wide zoom anytime soon.

Some more EF-M lenses like a few primes in the short tele range would be cool too.

Lenses I'd like to see released but not likely to buy -

TS 45 and 90 updates.

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