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I use the Samyang on a 5D2 and I didn't have any issues. I know on the EOS M you have to change a custom function - release shutter without lens. Could there be a similar issue with the 5D3?

Have you tried releasing the shutter via remote? Or 10s timer?

You know I do think there is a custom function tied to AF lock and shutter release. I remember having similar issues once.

Silly question but is it in One shot mode not AI Servo right?

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EOS-M / Re: The Next EOS M in 2014 [CR2]
« on: December 05, 2013, 09:17:07 PM »
For the love of god, Canon. Stick the 70D sensor in a G1X style body with a good EVF and create some EF-M lenses with an aperture ring. There is no shame in copying Fuji when sales are falling. It...would...sell!

It's confirmed.  Canon are clueless morons.  I'd ask what they were thinking, but that would be arguing facts not in evidence.

I'm actually happy this appears to be a not-US-bound camera. 

Is my profound disappointment showing?

Canon makes an incredible variety of cameras and lenses, for all sorts of applications, skill levels and budgets.  But even with this diverse product line, they don't make every possible product that someone might want or imagine.  So when some anonymous person feels they haven't built the camera that he personally desires, he will publicly berate them as "clueless morons".

You're correct on all counts.  I'm anonymous and I'm berating Canon.  Probabyl because it takes a moron to recognize another moron. It's my duty as a moron to call them out.   But enough about me...
 
Canon has a very long history of doing what they darn well please model after model ignoring pleas from pros and amateurs alike for features that would make the photographing experience better yet make no sense to the design engineers.

Magic Lantern has unlocked a lot of capabilities of various camera models, yet Canon engineers don't see those as good things to add.

I'm not saying Canon has cornered the market on being deaf to consumers, but they're fighting hard for the spot.  I've been with Canon over 10 years, and  they have been so close to perfection, many, many times... and if they had only listened to some of their customers.   I've seen their innate ability to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory time and time again.

As for a camera I "personally desire", check the thread again.  I'm FAR from alone on what I consider necessary upgrades (or at least options, for the love of God), and to be a reasonable response to the competition.
Canon is the big dog on the block, far larger than Nikon or Fuji, but they insist on playing the game of being the  Great Dane nipping at a Chihuahua's heels.

As far as the M2, they shouldn't have bothered at all. They should have taken the money and sent their engineers to "consumer sensitivity rehabilitation".  At least there would be some hope for the other camera lines.  Nothing new here.  Move along...

I don't think they spent all that much on the M2 looking at the specs! Develop cost is very low - same body design, same sensor tech, same processor, same screen. Just chucked in Wifi and improved the software. I think M2 was about maximizing profits with what the already had.

We are all disappointed to some extent but I wouldn't go as far as calling them morons! They're making money aren't they? They gotta be doin somethin right then!

A point about those features unlocked by ML. Most regular people don't use that stuff. I sure didn't need it for the first 3 years of shooting. Maybe by over complicating a lower end device it would drive away their target consumers - amateurs and hobbyists.
I do agree some of those features like an intervalometer should be a available to the FF shooters and pros.

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Sorry but am with Neuro on this one regarding battery life.

300 shots or less?? That is absolutely useless as an all day walkaround camera. Extra batteries? Forget that. Based on that performance I would need to buy at least 4 additional batteries just to get a decent number of shots. (Not to mention the additional cost of buying some chargers). I recently went to Kyoto and took about 800 shots with just one battery and it still had juice at the end of the day.

And battery grip negates the size and portability advantage. I like my cameras ungripped.

I don't think this is replacing DSLRs just yet.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Two New Full Frame Cameras in 2014? [CR1]
« on: December 05, 2013, 10:05:10 AM »
So so sorry but what is 'ML'. Pls do not laugh, just tell me the full form. Pls.


Magic Lantern

http://www.magiclantern.fm

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Software & Accessories / Re: Tripod for someone who's never used one?
« on: December 05, 2013, 02:36:48 AM »
I have a question about AS plates. So, according to RRS they recommend using their own QR plates or Wimberley ones with their BH clamps. I noticed a couple of folk mention they were using universal AS plates. Did you have any issues? Is it best to stick to their advice and get the RRS custom plates? I'm just wondering because down the line I might want to upgrade my 5D2 and a universal plate makes more sense.

Thanks in advance.
One thing about the universal plates is that they are flat. And those with only one screw may twist (unless extremely tight) and the camera or lens may be out of position. The RRS plates are made to fit the body, so they are totally stable.
I had several universal plates, but I have replaced all of them with RRS plates. For camera bodies I strongly recommend their L-plates. I have not tried the alternatives to RRS, so it might be that they are just as good.

Cool. That's what I figured. The RRS plates are about the same price as the AS universal ones anyway. My crappy manfrotto ones twist and slip all over the place. Time to change.

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Software & Accessories / Re: Tripod for someone who's never used one?
« on: December 05, 2013, 01:50:57 AM »
I have a question about AS plates. So, according to RRS they recommend using their own QR plates or Wimberley ones with their BH clamps. I noticed a couple of folk mention they were using universal AS plates. Did you have any issues? Is it best to stick to their advice and get the RRS custom plates? I'm just wondering because down the line I might want to upgrade my 5D2 and a universal plate makes more sense.

Thanks in advance.

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I still don't understand who these full frame mirorrless cameras are aimed at, aside from a hobbyist with a lot of money to burn.

-Average consumer, it is too expensive
-Camera-oriented gadget freak, would probably rather have a cameraphone like the Lumia 1020
-Compact camera fan, the zoom lenses are too big to truck around - all these pics don't look much smaller than a 6D w/ lens.
-Professional, would rather have a real DSLR with viewfinder through lens, more physical buttons, big lens selection, bigger body to grip

So what is left for this camera? Hobbyists with a lot of cash?  I guess that is the market they are going for.

I bought one. i'm a 32 year old who has been in to photography since learning in a darkroom in the early 90's with my mom's old Minolta.
For years, i was dissatisfied with digital cameras because of their poor image quality and generally stayed away. In 2008 I bought a top of the line Sony Cyber Shot for a 3 month backpacking trip to South America. In 2010 I was in Hong Kong traveling and finally bought a Canon DSLR. I was excited to have better image quality. i was never happy with APS-C, the crop factor, and always wanted the best low light abilities. I traveled for about 10 months using the 550D and taking tons of photos.
 After I finished traveling I wanted something to better suit my 24-105 lens, so I traded up to a used 5DC but it always seemed a little antiquated(terrible AF and back screen.)
So, I bought a used D700 and 24-70 2.8 for the AF and image quality. It was simply amazing, but after traveling in Japan for a month last year, my shoulders and back were sore every day from hanging 5 pounds around my neck and shoulders for 8 to 10 hours a day of walking around and sightseeing. Additionally, I like to carry a camera in my bag and when I walk to my work, or come home I like to take some pictures. This is at night and poor image quality annoys me, but my D700 took up my WHOLE backpack and made it a chore to carry, the opposite of fun.
So, I have been eagerly awaiting something that offers top of the line image quality, but in a size that doesn't hurt my shoulders and back. Something that is manageable.
Sure, my D700 is fantastic, and If I had to have the best chance of getting the picture, i'd use that(mostly because of the AF and great ergonomics), but, I simply never carried it in my bag, so I was never able to use it.
If I go to local game, or I just want to go out for a few hour and shoot some pictures, I can use my D700 no problem. but for carrying daily in my backpack, backpacking, hiking, or for my wife, the a7 is 1000x times better.
I don't make money on my photos... but I do enjoy doing it. And I could never say I enjoyed carrying my D700 around.
i bought my a7 last week. I got a small very high quality case for it and it now sits in my backpack every day.
When I go to work, or go out, I ALWAYS have it now. I don't even notice it's in my bag.
So now, photography can be a fun hobby for me again, instead of a (literally) pain in the neck, back and shoulders.

And, this is saying nothing about how AWESOME the a7 is at manual focusing. This is something I loved about my early days but had totally lost using DSLRs.  I Love slowing down a little bit, composing my shots, using focus peaking and magnification and focusing myself! Despite it's small size, the a7 does have all the manual controls, knobs and buttons of a normal DSLR. The layout and programmable buttons are far easier and more useful to me than the D700 or 5DC. The Sony a7 is the closest thing to the old school shooting experience I have seen outside of the Leica.

In all, I'd say the a7 is for anyone who appreciates having absolute top image quality but doesn't want to carry a huge DSLR. This could be anyone.


I also enjoy the odd manual focusing only I went the cheaper route of -

EOS M + FD adaptor + $90 Canon FD 50 1.4 (found on ebay) + Magic Lantern.

I also have zebras and focus peaking and manual only fun but for a fraction of the cost. Sure it's not FF but with a few tweeks in LR images come out just fine.

Just sayin.

Seems a bit strange to buy a $1500 digital camera just to use it as a manual focus only camera. Are you planning on buying additional E mount lenses with it?

Tell you what, have a look at this set of images I took. Some were with the EOM & 22mm f/2 and others were with my 5D2 & ... well if I told you that it would make it too easy. Try and see which ones are which!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/zanjum/sets/72157637909346605/

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I recently had a play about with an A7 in a store. Seems like a nice, medium sized camera. Decent weight to it and solid build. The only issue I had with it was the EVF. I don't think I could get used to it. It's not as "instant" as OVF. There's a small but noticeable lag, you know you're looking at a screen. Maybe I'm just not used to it but I also don't think it would be all that great for any real demanding work. I guess a lot of landscapers won't care about EVF though.

Do Mirrorless cameras need EVF?? Seems to me if you're gonna view the live image you might as well do it on the larger, clearer and better LCD on the back. I love Magic Lantern's "magic zoom" function on the EOS M. Seriously awesome feature. Don't miss the viewfinder all that much.
 
Also not related but it was lying next to the A7 was the Nikon Df. Has anyone else tried moving those dials with one hand?? Impossible! They're all locked with a metal pin that you push down, it's a two handed affair!! All advantage of dials LOST! Fail.

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:'(

This is so photographically depressing... I'm going to go home today and stare at my little M and the 2 lenses and filters I have and think, 'What could have been..'

Then I'll file my divorce papers from a 10 year Canon relationship, and start flirting with Olympus, Panasonic and Fuji..

I just don't get it?! How do people not realize how freaking cool the mirrorless system is?! Why the heck would you WANT to walk around with a half ass DSLR (Rebel) that is big and bulky compared to an M or EP5, or GX7? I hike/Mtn bike  A LOT and that M has gone EVERYWHERE with me! My 40D just sat at home, collecting dust for like 5 years until I sold it.

SO STUPID CANON!!!!! (smashes things in office and cries like a spoiled baby...)

Why DSLR over ML? Let me spell it out for you.

E.R.G.O.N.O.M.I.C.S

 ;)

So why the big difference between Asia and the USA/Europe?

Because (without being racist), people from Asia are generally more petite than those from Europe and especially those from the USA. Or at least that's how I reconcile it. So it isn't that the EOS-M or M2 or mirrorless are necessarily worse in ergonomics but that (for example) the hand size of people is not the same the world over and that determines how usable a camera is or isn't for many.

When you use a 7D compared to an EOS M or any other ML body you notice that some things are just way easier to do without thinking on the 7D. For example - changing ISO on the fly. Can you do that on a M? Meh not really. Holding a DSLR is more stable than the M no matter what the hand size.

Japanese men have same size of hands as rest of the world. Some of them have bigger hands than me. It's a myth that they have small hands. I think the reason for the small camera is space. Pure and simple. Space is a commodity here. If you live in Tokyo every square inch of your apartment is precious. Trains and buses are packed, especially during peak seasons like Obon, and Golden Week and the Sakura blossoms. People want to travel light and save space. A camera that fits in the pocket means no extra camera bag.

There could also be a cultural thing about not wanting to stand out and blending in etc. I see that a lot. However, I have only seen two other people with EOS Ms in Japan over the last year. I've seen a hundred thousand Nikon, Canon and Sony DSLRs though! (Big camera must take good pictures!) Holy hell during festivals and stuff everyone has a DSLR round their neck. They love their cameras as do I! And no ones going to steal it either!

So I think that making the camera smaller isn't just because they're Asian.

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:'(

This is so photographically depressing... I'm going to go home today and stare at my little M and the 2 lenses and filters I have and think, 'What could have been..'

Then I'll file my divorce papers from a 10 year Canon relationship, and start flirting with Olympus, Panasonic and Fuji..

I just don't get it?! How do people not realize how freaking cool the mirrorless system is?! Why the heck would you WANT to walk around with a half ass DSLR (Rebel) that is big and bulky compared to an M or EP5, or GX7? I hike/Mtn bike  A LOT and that M has gone EVERYWHERE with me! My 40D just sat at home, collecting dust for like 5 years until I sold it.

SO STUPID CANON!!!!! (smashes things in office and cries like a spoiled baby...)

Why DSLR over ML? Let me spell it out for you.

E.R.G.O.N.O.M.I.C.S

 ;)

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¥65,798 for body only on amazon. Hmmm a little bit steep. Based on prev amazon.jp initial release prices I'd say in about three months it will go down by ¥10,000.

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  I tend to use the M as a backup and a compact option while traveling

I don't think that Canon wants you to use the M as a backup, your backup "should" be a more expensive Canon camera.

PS
"you" is not you Dustin, it is a generic you  :)

Wether they want to or not, it makes a freakin awesome back up cam. If there was a tele prime in M flavor it would be so useful when shooting with your wide angle on your DSLR. The 22mm does a great job as a kinda normal to wide range when doing a lot of telephoto stuff. Basically means not having to carry 2 large DSLRs all the time.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS M2 Gets Official
« on: December 03, 2013, 07:25:48 AM »
disappointing that it is not the 70D sensor.

guess we will have to wait for the more pro oriented model to see better features.
this is not enough to make me buy a canon M.

the FPS are not good either for a mirrorless.

I think the reason we aren't seeing the 70D sensor in the M could be that Canon are trying to differentiate that as a higher end feature. Though we first see it in the mid range EOS 70D it still hasn't reached it's full potential. We are told the C100 will get the firmware upgrade that enables the Dual Pixel technology so it seems that Canon are saving it for the higher end cameras. My bet would be that the next camera to have Dual Pixel AF will be the 7D2. Doesn't make sense to put it in an EOS M before the 7D2. (Oh it makes perfect sense to us consumers but not to Canon's marketing department!  ;) )

Also, if you look at the rebel series, which I would place higher on the EOS scale than the M, we see regular incremental upgrades to the models. The t6i to t7i was barely an update at all! The M to M2 seems to be along the same lines of Canon's strategy.

Whatever, I mean did we really expect miracles?

Wonder how much this new M is gonna be, that's the real question. If it's $400 for the kit it will be a nice little P&S substitute for many.

As for lenses I do agree that one more prime would be nice. I've given up on that idea and decided to buy an FD adaptor and buy some cheap (but good) FD glass. Manual focus doesn't bother me at all. And that's the great thing about the M, you can use all kinds of lenses with it via adaptors.

As for built in flash - no, that is a stupid idea. As an off camera flash junkie I fully support Canon's decision there! Use the hotshoe, that's what it's there for!!!!

R U a paid fluffier from Canon. corporate? 8)

Yup, they pay me the big bucks to spout nonsense! Haha!

Well, think about it. Am I wrong?

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS M2 Gets Official
« on: December 03, 2013, 07:17:18 AM »
disappointing that it is not the 70D sensor.

guess we will have to wait for the more pro oriented model to see better features.
this is not enough to make me buy a canon M.

the FPS are not good either for a mirrorless.

I think the reason we aren't seeing the 70D sensor in the M could be that Canon are trying to differentiate that as a higher end feature. Though we first see it in the mid range EOS 70D it still hasn't reached it's full potential. We are told the C100 will get the firmware upgrade that enables the Dual Pixel technology so it seems that Canon are saving it for the higher end cameras. My bet would be that the next camera to have Dual Pixel AF will be the 7D2. Doesn't make sense to put it in an EOS M before the 7D2. (Oh it makes perfect sense to us consumers but not to Canon's marketing department!  ;) )

Also, if you look at the rebel series, which I would place higher on the EOS scale than the M, we see regular incremental upgrades to the models. The t6i to t7i was barely an update at all! The M to M2 seems to be along the same lines of Canon's strategy.

Whatever, I mean did we really expect miracles?

Wonder how much this new M is gonna be, that's the real question. If it's $400 for the kit it will be a nice little P&S substitute for many.

As for lenses I do agree that one more prime would be nice. I've given up on that idea and decided to buy an FD adaptor and buy some cheap (but good) FD glass. Manual focus doesn't bother me at all. And that's the great thing about the M, you can use all kinds of lenses with it via adaptors.

As for built in flash - no, that is a stupid idea. As an off camera flash junkie I fully support Canon's decision there! Use the hotshoe, that's what it's there for!!!!

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS M2 Specs Revealed?
« on: December 03, 2013, 03:06:35 AM »
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the original M have Digic 5? Why are they boasting about that on the Japanese website. That's not news.

I see the AF assist light and IR remote sensor have changed orientation! That's about it. I wanna watch that video but I'm in work. Screw it. Here goes.

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