PowerShot Cameras / Re: Canon succeeds in capturing nighttime video of Yaeyama-hime fireflies using dedicated 35 mm full« on: September 13, 2013, 06:43:37 AM »
Great, now can we have this in the 7D2 or 5D4?
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Ahh... then you're doing this for a friend. As I said, that's completely different, no pressure you're not a hired gun getting paid for professional quality work.
I think there's still probably quite a bit of pressure, but OP shouldn't be as stressed about producing the kind of work as The Strobist or McNally would turn out.
That said, get (or more likely rent) a couple of speedlites, and either use a master mounted on your camera or some RF triggers and put them on stands a decent distance away, at approximately 45 degree angles from the group facing inwards. It'd be better if you could get 2 at each point, one high one low and shooting through or bouncing from an umbrella or octo-box. It'll eat power, but you'll get much more even light. Don't feel you need to be at ISO 100 either. With some decent light, ISO 400 or even 800 will be perfectly acceptable. I'd also go to f/5.6 or 6.3 to increase your DoF. Especially if you have people ranked 3 deep. Last, don't use your 17-40 at 17mm please. At least 24mm, maybe creeping up towards 30-35mm if you have enough room.
Actually, looking at it you will have a decent number of speedlites. If you can get some RF triggers (most also have a PC out connection so you can use 1 per pair of speedlites) that'd make it a lot easier and more reliable to trigger. If at all possible, I'd recommend showing up quite early, getting a good look at the location and then getting your friend (or someone really) to stand at various locations of where the group of people will be while you shoot them and adjust your lighting and power settings. Also use a few bits of gaffers tape to mark the edges of where people need to stand. That way, when you actually need to get shooting you'll just have to herd them into the target area, make sure you can see everyone's face, get 1 or 2 test shots and then get 1-2 minutes of a bunch of shots. Make sure you talk to them, don't just go bang! bang! bang! Tell a joke, or talk with your friend ahead of time and tell him you're going to make fun of him a bit to get a laugh. That'll help get them to relax and you'll get much better photos that way.
Hmm, it looks like you cannot rent anything (I am assuming from whatever you have written till now) and coming from a country which is not USA I understand that. Not all countries have such extensive gear renting opportunities like US. But with 30 people standing (and sitting may be) you will need to figure out some way to put one flash to the right of the group (hitting the right side of the group) and another on the left and the third one from top of your camera. So you will need some sort of posts or walls towards your right and left (you can use something like gaffers tape or strong cloth tapes to do that). you may also want to put two of your speedlights at the back of the group facing the back wall slightly uppishly to give some light to the background and to make the group of employees standout from the background. I am assuming you have someway of remotely triggering the four flashes that are not on the camera.
For the headshots go to the strobist website, they have a nice article on headshots in office spaces with speedlights. They may also have something on group shot.
Ahh... then you're doing this for a friend. As I said, that's completely different, no pressure you're not a hired gun getting paid for professional quality work. You should have stated that first. It appeared as you were doing a job. That means something completely different to professional wedding/event photographers.
BTW... two pro-quality strobes will be far less to move around than 5 speedlites on stands with modifiers, triggers, etc. And you don't have to rent Elinchroms, any quality hp strobe will suffice.
Flashes for this type of group photo, no scouting, multiple locations, limited set-up time, no assitants = recipe for disaster
Rent or buy some Elinchrom Rangers, into octoboxes or large beauty dishes... small consumer flashes are a dead give away. Maybe flashguns for head shots but a really poor idea for large groups and doesn't inspire any confidence that you're a working professional. I often do corporate gigs and sometimes I hire other professionals for photos I need to be included in. Honestly, if a hired "professional" photographer showed up with nothing but flashguns for large group photos... I'd send them home and step behind the camera myself. Same would be true if the photographer showed up alone without at least one assistant and a MUA ( especially for corporate and magazine work).
...Also, don't forget a boat load of double AA's for all those flash guns. Nothing like swapping out 5-10 flashes worth of batteries on a professional gig with clients waiting.
When doing group shots don't be tempted to put your flashes as close as you can to the group as you may find fall-off across the group. Using the inverse square law, position your flashes further away and the fall-off from them will be much less. perhaps you could get dual or tri flash stands to double up in to your umbrellas.
Hope this helps
The reason for the poor sales of point & shoot cameras is more to do with the lack of interest of casual shooters, in any serious camera functions... any decent P&S camera will take better photos than a smartphone ... but casual shooters don't care about most of the stuff a serious photog would, the casual shooters only care about capturing the 'moment' they like and share as fast possible with a device that they are already carrying, regardless of the 'quality' of the image ... like my wife who likes the images of her iPhone ... the other day she took an image of a flower which to me looked very ordinary and bland, but she liked it coz it reminds her of a moment she cherishes ... she doesn't care about shutter speeds, fstops, ISO etc ... I think a vast majority are like that, for them carrying another device (P&S camera) is more of a pain, while they can 'get by' with their camera phone.
+100 ... Amen!
Additionally I would like to mention that carrying a smartphone plus Point 'n Shoot camera when travelling also involves taking along 2 separate chargers plus cables and finding free wall outlets if you want to charge both of them overnight ... etc. ... a total inconvenience and something I and many other people really loathe.
I've noticed that about 50mm on crop or 70mm on FF seems to match the magnification of my eye. In other words, if I look at an object with my naked eye and then through the viewfinder, it appears the same size in my field of vision.
That's going to depend on the viewfinder magnification. For example, the 7D has a 1x magnificaiton, whereas the T5i/700D's VF mag is only 0.85x.