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Lenses / Re: Canon 35 2 IS v Canon 40 2.8 pancake
« on: January 24, 2014, 09:18:30 AM »
A question for anyone who has the 40mm pancake and the Canon 35 f2 IS: do you see yourself keeping the 40 and 35 in your kit long term or do you see them as largely redundant?  Which of the two do you prefer?  I realise the 35 is a stop faster before you even take into account the IS, while the 40 is much smaller and lighter (although I gather the 35 is still fairly small and light), but I'm keen to hear from anyone who's used them both.

I've currently got a 40mm pancake, a Sigma 50 1.4 and an old Canon 28 1.8 (which I used as a general purpose prime on crop, but which hasn't seen much use since I got a 6D).  I'm planning to sell the 28, and I'm thinking about getting the 35 f2 IS but I wonder if I need (can justify!) having a 35 and a 40 (And a 50!).  I'd be using the lens mostly as a general walk around/street/low light prime when I want to go small and light (so something like the Sigma 35 1.4 isn't so appealing to me despite it's IQ reputation).  Another option is to sell the 40 as well as the 28, and replace them both with the 35.  Or I could just forget the 35 and stick with the 40.  To the extent relevant, I do have a Sigma 24-70 2.8 HSM as well.  (I'd actually like to reduce the number of lenses I own, but somehow I seem to find buying easier than selling!)

Thanks for any comments you can offer!

Which focal length do you prefer? Wide or normal? Or a bit of both? It's really down to personal pref.

You could sell all of them and replace with the 35 IS. The 28 and 40 are very similar in terms of focal length. You can easily replicate the "look" of both with one 35mm lens.

A 50 is different though and has a unique look all of it's own. You might still find it useful.

Personally I'd sell the 28 no matter what. Keep the pancake for travel and keep the 50 for shallow dof stuff and creative uses.

Canon General / Re: Review: Canon EOS 17-40 f/4L by DxO Mark
« on: January 23, 2014, 10:35:45 PM »
If you buy a 17-40L as a standard zoom for a crop camera now that plenty of EF-s and other crop options are available, well, you're doing it wrong.  It's an ultrawide zoom for full-frame.

+1 - and that's the point of comparing it to the 18-55/3.5-5.6 IS kit lens or even the 17-55/2.8 IS.  Compared to the 17-40L on APS-C, the former delivers not-too-different IQ and the latter delivering better IQ (and an extra stop of light, a broader range, and IS).  Yet, many people recommend getting the 17-40L 'in case you go FF maybe someday,' which I think is pretty foolish unless 'someday' is next month.

Ah yes those people who have a cheap entry level Rebel camera with a 17-40L stuck on the end! Yup I agree, unless your "other cameras a FF" and currently out of action you have no excuse! Too cheap to buy a FF camera but has enough to show off with an L lens! (A cheap one at that!) you're foolin no one son!

Canon General / Re: Review: Canon EOS 17-40 f/4L by DxO Mark
« on: January 23, 2014, 09:03:58 PM »
The 17-40mm L is designed for full frame and performs nearly identically to the 18-55mm kit lens, but is more expensive and worse in nearly every way (though it's color and contrast is said to be slightly better, I don't really care personally).

We should pick up that topic again after you try to shoot in snow, rain and sand for some time with the non-L lens - how sharp is your picture if your lens is broken or after you've gone broke yourself after so many repairs?

Then again, how many white box versions of the rebel kit lens can you buy for the price of one 17-40 L?

Wow, are we seriously comparing the 17-40L to the 18-55 kit lens? The kit lens is good but it's not in the same category. Despite the obvious differences, I can't for example use the kit lens as an UWA on FF therefore there isn't any way we can compare the two optically. I suppose you could buy a cart load of kits for the price of one 17-40L. But so what? I can also buy a few hundred disposable cameras, still doesn't solve my wide angle needs.

Why does everyone hate the 17-40L? We can't all afford 16-35LII lenses.

Thanks for posting this I was waiting for news on the Samyang filter holder. It would be nice to have an ND ability, even just a few stops is fine with me.

In europe its stabilizing on 999£ / 1199€. I've seen someone reporting a 949£ price tag, that's a good price.

I'm sure it will go below 900£/1000€ after the first wave of orders have shipped.

It seems unfair for you guys paying in Euros. Big diff between $1000 and €1000.

This lens is going to be in short supply and a big seller for a long time. It's appealing for two distinct types of photogs, those like the reviewer that don't primarily use the long lenses and those that do who want a packable alternative.

I think you are probably right.  We saw the warning signs when it  jumped to the top of the best selling charts in Japan.  I think it will take several months before supply stabilizes.  I won't be able to get one for myself (to own) for a while, although I will get another run with a loaner in February.

I find it encouraging that other reviewers are coming to similar conclusions with me.  I think that will help those interested to feel more confident about moving ahead.
I think it has a high probability of getting a price hike, especially if they are selling it at a loss for brand recognition ... seeing how popular this lens turned out to be, in such a short time, I wouldn't be surprised if they raise the price. My ex-boss (who is bringing the lens for me next month) just sent me an email saying that the seller on Amazon (Japan) has changed his shipping time from 1 to 3 months (earlier it was 1 to 2 weeks)  ... so he is now looking for other sellers who can deliver before he leaves from Japan. :'(
My ex-boss just emailed me again a few minutes ago, saying that the price is now JPY 123800 (US$1188) with one week delivery ... earlier it was JPY 107,820 (US$ 1036), but they changed the delivery timing as  1 to 3 months.

That sucks but if your boss converted dollars to yen then he prob got a decent rate and the price is still pretty good. Prices are going up here, the sales tax is going up in April from 5 to 8%, get the lens while you can folks!

EOS Bodies / Re: Patents: Canon 85mm f/1.8 IS, 100mm f/2 IS, 135 f/2 IS
« on: January 21, 2014, 11:42:37 PM »
The patent for the 135mm says f/2.8 not f/2
I hope that's not the lens they actually release, although it would save me a ton of money.  Very sad indeed if it turns out to be a f/2.8 lens :'(

That would make a rather pointless addition to the line up when the 70-200LII covers both of those criteria very well (f/2.8 and IS). And assuming it will cost in excess of $1000 there would be very few who would opt for it.

Just a patent mind, and it was filed 18 months ago. The 70-200LII had been selling well in that time. Could affect their final decision on the 135 IS.

EOS Bodies / Re: |RUMOR| EOS A1 Coming Feb 9th
« on: January 21, 2014, 09:15:14 PM »

Better but more expensive. The current Hasselblad 50mp is $26,000!! And that's without a lens!

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon naming policy
« on: January 20, 2014, 12:08:52 AM »
I happen to really like Canon's naming scheme. It make logical sense and is easy for me to know which camera someone is talking about and how it fits in to the line up.

Can't say the same for Nikon. I always end up googling it and trying to figure out what the person I'm talking to is going on about! I usually just smile and nod my head and say things like "ah! Yeah that's a nice one!" 

One thing that I wish Canon would abolish is the rebel cameras and their 3 variations - xxxD, txi and kiss xx. It gets a bit confusing. The xxxD is easier to understand.

Lenses / Re: 7D user - advice on my best option for a 'go to' lens?
« on: January 19, 2014, 09:35:22 AM »
If you have 1000$ to spend, you can get a 17-55 or a 24-105 and use them for your 7d.

Or you could sell the 7d and buy a 6d & 24-105 kit for more less the same price.

Only advantages of your 7d are speed and better AF. Your current 17-85 is f5.6 at the long end, and the new lens is f4.0. A 6d gives you about 1.5 stops of low light capability and shallow depth of field, and the lens gives you another one at the long end.

if you want to change your 50 1.8 you can replace it by a 85 1.8 for about the same Price, and this one is said to be really good (i dont own it).

The 50 1.8 and 85 1.8 are most certainly NOT the same price!!

Lenses / Re: 7D user - advice on my best option for a 'go to' lens?
« on: January 19, 2014, 08:12:27 AM »
Thanks all for the informative responses. I think I'm ready to scratch the idea of the 24-105 (17-55 wins here by something like 15 to 2).

I'll definitely get the 50mm 1.4, because I've loved using my 1.8. If I aim for a really limited set up, does the 17-55 2.8 complement the 50mm 1.4? I'd definitely be open to alternatives, like the 15-85, if it gives my photography more scope?

I think I basically want one of these set ups:

Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM Lens
Canon EF 50mm - f/1.4 USM Lens
Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0 L USM Lens?


Canon EF-S 15-85 mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM Lens
Canon EF 50mm - f/1.4 USM Lens
Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0 L USM Lens?

How do either of those sound for me? Anything missing?

Thanks a lot people

When I bought my 17-55 I noticed I hardly touched my 50 1.8 anymore. The reason being that the 50 was only really got good around f/2.8 and the 17-55 covered that nicely. I've never owned the 1.4 but from what I hear it's good around f2. Might be worth it just to wait for the Sigma and possibly the Canon update before getting the 50 1.4, and in the meantime use the f1.8. I always ended up choosing f/2.8 with IS over the (soft) f1.8 with no IS but that's just my shooting pref, maybe you're different.

I highly recommend the 70-200 f/4 IS, the image quality is really amazing. Only issue with this on crop is you're limited slightly by the f/4 aperture. If you shoot indoors it can be an issue as you'll end up cranking up the ISO to 3200 and on a 7D things start looking real noisy.

An alternative might be the Tamron 70-200 f/2.8 VC.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon naming policy
« on: January 19, 2014, 05:17:04 AM »
You're bound to run into confusion when you have (a) too many cameras simultaneously on the market, (b) when you release cameras too rapidly. The EOS 100D came out in 2013 ... it's an "entry-level" camera, so the EOS 150D should be here this year, as well as the 750D ... what happens in 2017 (the new 300D) and 2019 (the new 100D or 1000D or 000D)? Plus, eventually the 5D and the 1D series will reach Mark L and even more eventually Mark C level. But before then, there'll be the Mark XXXVIII and, fitting for the 1D series, the Mark XL.

You forgot about the 100D/SL1. What will happen to  the x0D line after the 80D and 90D?

After the 950D the rebels will likely go back to 300 and after the 90D the xxD line will likely go back to 10 but they might not be "D".  Although I am curious as to what the 100D / SL1 will become. Maybe 110D?

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon naming policy
« on: January 18, 2014, 08:46:10 PM »
Canon EOS naming scheme on Wikipedia:

Yeah, sorry. Totally don't agree that the 5D line is "prosumer". It is extensively used by literal professionals in the wedding and portraiture arenas. There is no question that the 5D is professional. The 7D, while not as often used by professionals as a primary camera, is frequently used by professionals as a backup. Additionally, the feature set wise, the 7D has the closest featureset to the 1D line.

I have to agree with the manufacturer. I know a lot of pros use the 5D, it is a great camera, but it also extremely popular with consumers, especially here in Asia Pacific, which by definition makes it prosumer. Nothing wrong with that, it is an amazing camera.

As for the OP, I think 7D mark II as a name, works well.

By that logic, the 1DX could be classified 'prosumer'.  There are many people on this board that own the 1DX, but aren't "professional" photographers.  Hell, there are those out there(you know who I'm referring to  ;) ) that classify ALL 35mm cameras as consumer.

The 1 series is the pro body in Canon's line up. The 5 series can't also be pro it can be advanced or prosumer. Maybe the 5D3 is closer to "pro". The article isn't up to date.

Medium format and Large format folk are looking down upon us and laughing as we argue over some numbers! 

Software & Accessories / Re: Adobe Lightroom for iPad Coming Soon
« on: January 18, 2014, 08:23:45 PM »
Will it work with RAW, and how to get RAW transferred onto the iPad? 

Importing RAW onto an iPad works the same as importing JPEG.  I assume you'd use the USB or SD card - dock/lightning adapters to connect the camera and import them into LR just like you do with the iOS photo app.

Surprisingly the iPad seems to handle RAW files just fine. I use the USB to lightning cable and then connect the camera directly to the iPad. Upload is simple. No additional codecs or upgrades required (unlike windows) it can display the RAW file as a JPEG preview. The issue will be memory space. Even the 128GB versions will fill up soon so it's really only good for light editing and then transfer the files to your PC / MAC. I've never tried that though but it should be a case of just plug in and drag and drop.

Also the question remains how those files will sync with your existing library? You could have a separate Lightroom mobile catalogue that you click on. Then you could merge or import that catalogue to your existing library? Or will it have some kind of cloud sync?   

Dear Friends
After I read this Post , which start by Mr. DaveMiko, The More I read, The More I understand my self----NO, I am not and will not BE THE PRO. As My Understand that " THE PRO buy their equipment as need to serve their Duty/ Functions as they  make their living from the products by that equipment. And the equipments that they buy must in their  budget and made profits for them too.

For me( and Some minority of CR. Members ? ) always buy the new equipment after the company  improve their  new products/ equipment, just  10  cents of It's  better Quality, and WE HAVE A HEART TO SPEND $ 1000 US DOLLARS MORE , for the equipment that  ALMOST THE SAME QUALITY OF OUR OLD EQUIPMENT AND HOPE TO GET BETTER AND SHARPER PHOTOS---YES, We have  90% Pure Heart but only 10% BRAIN, to create our happiness but less money in our pocket.
Just want to have FUN to talk with you.
Have a great weekend.

Well said. But I don't mind spending my money on what I want, I know it won't improve my photography. :(

Let's face it for some of us it's just the new toys that make us happy! And it's our humdrum 9-5 office jobs that pay for them!! Haha!  :P

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