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EOS Bodies / Re: Official: Canon EOS 7D Mark II
« on: September 15, 2014, 08:29:20 AM »
Sounds like a great camera. :D Aside from the "new" sensor that can be the same as 70D. ::)

"EOS 7D Mark II features a refined APS-C sized 20.2 Megapixel CMOS sensor with Dual DIGIC 6 Image Processors"

Presumably it's the same basic design, with minor revisions.  It's likely to be slightly better than the 70D, if at all.  There may have been significant re-engineering needed to allow higher-speed readout.

Remember, folks, this is an optimized sports/bird camera.  It's not optimized for studio or landscape.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 7DII vs Samsung NX1
« on: September 14, 2014, 11:57:21 PM »
Everything most five or six of you seem to be looking for is in the NX1 except Canon compatible lenses. Here's a comparison from thenewcamera.com. What do you think?

I think I corrected your post.

Who wouldn't want greater FPS and AF points let alone wi-fi, ISO, etc.

Assuming those features work well, everyone would want them available.  If you're a landscape shooter who doesn't use high ISO or wi-fi would you buy this camera?  And if it doesn't have the lenses you want/need then suddenly it's not such a good fit.  For some this will be a great body, and I certainly cheer for any advances in mirrorless bodies, but until there's a complete system of lenses and accessories, it can't satisfy every photographer.

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Business of Photography/Videography / Re: Concert Photo Copyright
« on: September 13, 2014, 11:57:15 AM »
I have a question and after searching the web forever I have gotten closer to an answer but need some direct insight.
I was hired by a production company to shoot a concert for the Eli Young Band and their openers. There was no photography contract between the production company and the bands. The purpose of the photos is to promote what the production company can do by way of timel apse and general concert photos(wid/tele).
I am under the impression that I would own the photos unless my contract with the production company dictated they were the owners of the photos(it didnt).
We(the prod. company and I) are getting ready to post the photos online but we are concerned the band may say they own those rights. While this sounds crazy there are many cases of this happening in the past.
Amist all the hustle, bustle and whining about how great the 7d2 should have been or will be if anyone can give me some insight it would be awesome.

First, I'm not a lawyer, and you shouldn't take legal advice from some guy on the Internet.

In the absence of a contract (in some cases an oral contract may be sufficient) the "author" is the person who exercised creative control of the creation of the photo, and that person owns copyright.  Usually that's the person who frames the shot and presses the shutter.  There are some technical nuances, but if you were an event photographer and were doing what event photographers do, then you probably have copyright.

That said, the band may also believe that there's an agreement (contract, written or oral) that licenses the photos to them.  Think carefully about any agreements you made, such as "sure, you can use that," etc.  If you've made no such statements, and were photographing with permission, then you own the copyright.

Finally, even if it's clear that you own the copyright, what you do with those images may be limited.  Without a contract, you can't use them for commercial (promotional) purposes.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon announced D750
« on: September 12, 2014, 11:35:15 AM »
Hi,
    I think it's should be weather sealed, but does "The structure is also sealed and gasketed to resist dust and moisture" mean it's weather sealed??

    Have a nice day.

What does weather sealing really mean anyway?  Weather sealed cameras resist weather until the point they don't?

It means my friend takes his Pentax out in steady rain (not downpours) repeatedly, without any kind of jacket or cover over it, and it keeps working.  Nothing has gotten in the body or lens over several years of doing this.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: And what does Canon do?
« on: September 05, 2014, 07:47:13 PM »

Could you be specific: which features are lacking in which bodies?

On the 5diii which is still more expensive than better newer cameras but compared to d800
Worse IQ
Less sharp
Worse color
Less dr
True 1080p


My c100 lacks a ton that its competitors have, too much to list

So why did you buy a 5D3 and C100?  Or why don't you sell them and buy a competing product?

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: And what does Canon do?
« on: September 05, 2014, 07:10:32 PM »
I'm a long time Canon user and I don't see how people can defend Canon so much. They literally produced nothing interesting for years, Price their gear really high and really don't seem to care about their customers. Perhaps the most annoying thing to me was the change in CPS service. After two months of shelling out $500 for platinum, they change the terms of repair costs, super annoying.

Besides lack of innovation, they cripple their hardware so that they lack features. Thanks to ef mounts become more available on other cameras, I certainly won't be buying any more Canon bodies unless something really blows me away.

Could you be specific: which features are lacking in which bodies?

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: And what does Canon do?
« on: September 05, 2014, 06:32:21 PM »
Of course, as my dad used to say: "Wish in one hand and..."

I just love those old Irish aphorisms.   :P

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EOS Bodies / Re: Is Canon now two generations behind Nikon?
« on: September 01, 2014, 11:15:58 PM »
No, highlight tone priority changes the way JPEGs are rendered in the camera.

No.

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Highlight Tone Priority (HTP)
All cameras have a fixed dynamic range, from shadow to highlight, that they can capture. HTP shifts some of the available dynamic range from the mid-tones to the highlights to produce smoother tones, with more detail in bright areas. This helps prevent JPEG images with overexposed highlights that can’t be recovered. HTP is also useful to RAW shooters who process their images with Canon’s DPP software. Most third-party RAW processing software will not recognize Highlight Tone Priority.
When the camera is set to HTP, the lowest available ISO will be 200. The HTP setting will be indicated by a D+ symbol in the LCD display. Avoid using HTP in low light or when shooting subjects with heavy shadows because it may cause more noise to appear in those areas.

http://www.learn.usa.canon.com/app/pdfs/quickguides/CDLC_EOS_Cfn_QuickGuide.pdf

No, all it does is underexpose 1 stop secretly and then shift the mid-tone point and roll off highlights differently for in-cam jps and it sets a flag to tell RAW converters to do the same. You can get the exact same thing out of underexposing 1 stop and then using an altered tone curve.
That's basically what I copied/pasted from Canon's material.  Were you saying "no" to me or to Dilbert?

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EOS Bodies / Re: Is Canon now two generations behind Nikon?
« on: September 01, 2014, 09:53:46 PM »
So why no EVF on the 7D2 ???

Because EVF still sucks for action and sports.

If you watch the Super Bowl, World Cup, etc on Television, tell me how bad it was ??? 'cuz they use cameras with EVFs.

Realize that the EVFs used in high end cinematography equipment are VASTLY superior to the kinds of EVFs currently found in ML cameras. VASTLY superior. Also vastly more expensive. Just one of the EVFs used in a RED Dragon camera costs more than most of the DSLRs we buy today.
the monitor (7 or 8 inches) on top of those cameras goes for about $10,000......
In part that's due to the limited production runs.  Of course, that's just the monitor: there's probably video processing gear as well.  All that takes CPU and electrical power.   These are just engineering issues to be worked-out, and pro-quality EVF will replace reflex at some point, though I'm becoming less confident about when.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Is Canon now two generations behind Nikon?
« on: September 01, 2014, 08:40:57 PM »
No, highlight tone priority changes the way JPEGs are rendered in the camera.

No.

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Highlight Tone Priority (HTP)
All cameras have a fixed dynamic range, from shadow to highlight, that they can capture. HTP shifts some of the available dynamic range from the mid-tones to the highlights to produce smoother tones, with more detail in bright areas. This helps prevent JPEG images with overexposed highlights that can’t be recovered. HTP is also useful to RAW shooters who process their images with Canon’s DPP software. Most third-party RAW processing software will not recognize Highlight Tone Priority.
When the camera is set to HTP, the lowest available ISO will be 200. The HTP setting will be indicated by a D+ symbol in the LCD display. Avoid using HTP in low light or when shooting subjects with heavy shadows because it may cause more noise to appear in those areas.

http://www.learn.usa.canon.com/app/pdfs/quickguides/CDLC_EOS_Cfn_QuickGuide.pdf


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EOS Bodies / Re: Is Canon now two generations behind Nikon?
« on: September 01, 2014, 06:43:12 PM »
If more people start "spouting the same sort of crap" then maybe it isn't "crap."
Depends on the hard evidence used to support the argument.  Personal experiences and anecdotes don't count as hard evidence.

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Simply put, the Exmor sensor can deliver raw files that can be used in ways that Canon's can't.
I'm willing to believe this is true in some cases; the question is whether it's true in a way that makes me want to give up the advantages of my Canon kit.  Part of that, of course, includes the cost.  There needs to be enough of an advantage.  If you shoot studio or landscape, and your style involves the kinds of compositions that demonstrate the difference, the maybe it's worthwhile to you.  To me, so far, it's not.



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What's striking to me is why anyone would buy a product (and in another thread one of the most vocal complainers said he spent $25,000 on Canon gear) they don't like. And, if they bought something they didn't like, why would they choose to take their dissatisfaction to a forum, which is about the most ineffective way imaginable to complain. Just return the product, or sell it and chalk up any loss to experience.


That's called vendor lock in.
For a company it has the advantage of making the cost of changing prohibitive...until the wheel turns and you have to fight an uphill battle.

Nobody put a gun to anybody's head and forced them to buy a particular brand. How about people take responsibility for their own decisions for a change?

Have you spent much time around enterprise information systems?  Vendor lock-in is a real problem, and isn't just a matter of taking responsibility.  When you put out an RFP (request for proposal) for a large system you may get a number of responses.  Rarely does any of them meet all your needs, but you try to discern which is growing in the direction you want.  Because of the huge time and money investment to adopt, these systems are expected to last 10 years or more, so the current set of features is not as important as the direction of growth.  Do we have a choice?  Yes, but in some ways it's like the choice of how many times to shake the dice before you throw them on the craps table.  Canon did grow in many of the ways I (and many others wanted): they improved auto-focus, expanded lens and accessory lines, etc.  There are some areas in which they have not grown as some had hoped.  However, it has not been bait-and-switch: Canon never promised specific sensor characteristics.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Is Canon now two generations behind Nikon?
« on: September 01, 2014, 10:01:17 AM »
Because EVF still sucks for action and sports.

Have you tried an X-T1, A77II or a6000?  Modern EVF's are completely capable of keeping up with action, no problem.

I don't think any of them are as good for action. And believe me, I want to see EVFs take over because they are far better for judging exposure and white balance and they're better for MF lenses (unless you have a custom focusing screen). But I just don't think they're there yet, and I imagine at least the next generation of sports cams (7D2; 1DX mkII) will need OVFs.
I tend to agree with you. Some of the EVF's that I have seen on mirrorless cameras are getting close, but as you say, they're not there yet.... I wonder what's under development? It can't be too long before they hit the market at a reasonable cost.

I know it's not going to happen, but wouldn't the pundits be shocked if the 7D2 was the 7DM :) A mirrorless high end Canon with EF mount and an EVF! If you think the debates now get rancorous, imagine the hornets nest that would stir up....
Sounds good to me if the cost and other features were reasonable.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Is Canon now two generations behind Nikon?
« on: September 01, 2014, 09:58:47 AM »
Well the thing is he didn't know the direction of Canon developments.

How would that even had been possible to know?

After all, it is for sure at some point "even" Canon extends DR - and that is not because of "whiners" but because it is part of sensor IQ. Would be utterly absurd to think Canon itself don't know this - they optimize the way they think it is most profitable for shareholders and they haven't been wrong this far.

You're correct.  Thus far, Canon has chosen not to substantially increased low ISO DR.  Their market share has seemingly not suffered for it.  Nikon did choose to increase DR, and their market share has not increased.  What does that say about the importance of DR to the majority of buyers?

As for jrista spending $25K on his kit not knowing the direction of Canon's developments, consider that he spent half of that total amount less than a year ago, buying a 600 II.  After 4-5 years of Canon not increasing low ISO DR, it would be somewhat foolish to assume they would do the opposite the next year...and Jon isn't foolish.  In fact, since the 5DIII had been out for a long time, the assumption was easily testable in the case of that camera before committing to a purchase.

Isn't the 600 II a bird lens, rather than a landscape lens?  Considering the quality of the lens, there might be people who own all Nikon kit except the 600 II and one body for it.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Is Canon now two generations behind Nikon?
« on: September 01, 2014, 09:56:21 AM »
I agree with Jack and Don. But some people do appear to want to be fickle. And here comes jrista   ;D

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I tell you what really sucks J. Someone who knew it all years ago spending $25,000 on kit that he is not happy with. I know one thing J, if I had been unhappy with a camera system for over 6 years firstly I would NOT have spent $25,000 on it secondly I would have have changed system a long time ago.

The flame war just dies out, and someone has to make new sparks.  I doubt many people are perfectly happy with their entire kit.  If I remember correctly, jrista is a computer guy, so he's probably accustomed to the rapid improvements with silicon electronic processes.  It would have been a reasonable choice years ago to select the brand with lenses and accessories you like, while assuming that the silicon part would advance quickly.  I believe he's not complaining about sensors back then, but the lack of progress.

I'm also unhappy with the lack of progress, but I haven't yet taken my skill to the point where the camera is my limitation.  And from the business side, as I've said before, Canon will upgrade their sensors when the market requires it.  This forum will not significantly affect that market.

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