What I don't understand is why the EF-S 17-85 is still there. I thought it would've been discontinued not long after the EF-S 15-85mm was released. The 15-85 is one third dearer but it's so much better that buying the 17-85 is a weird decision, isn't it?
That is odd. The 15-85 blows away the 17-85, and isn't that much more, I'm blown away the 17-85 wasn't disco'd. I was under the impression it had been.
Honestly, for EF-S "normal" zooms, I see the market for the following:
1. Cheap kit lens (18-55mm f/3.5-5.6)
2. Enthusiast kit lens (17-85mm f/3.5-5.6)
3. Fast aperture prosumer standard zoom lens (17-55mm f/2.
Where the 17-85 fits in is anyones guess. Cheap enthusiast kit lens?
Back to topic:
If I had to make a wish list to replace the 17-55mm, I'd add the following:
- Modern/upgraded IS
- Weather sealing
- Dust reduction
Unrealistic ask: f/1.8 performance. Though if trading off IS was the exchange, I think it actually would hurt marketability.
Enthusiast users like my dad like the fast and sharp 2.8 with IS, but when he borrows my 6D, really misses the IS for tripod free night landscape shots even if he's using my 35mm f/1.4. Last time he borrowed my 6D, I rented a 24-70 f/4 IS for him, and he actually preferred it over the 24-70 f/2.8 and 35 f/1.4.
I used the 17-55 IS lens for years on my 40D and then 7D. It is a great fast standard zoom lens for photo and video. And with IS to boot. I have not found anything equivalent for full frame yet.
Agreed. When I lent my dad the 6D as mentioned above, he found the same thing, nothing could offer the 2.8 aperture with IS combo that he found so dear. His favorite lens on the 6D was the 24-70 IS, the only saving grace was the 6D's high ISO performance is at least a stop better than the 7D.
The lack of a comparable lens is why he is going to buy a 7D2 instead of 6D. The Tamron 24-70VC is close, but the thing weighs a bloody ton, and AF/IS is not perfect.