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How about a mirrorless camera? Might be less intimidating than a DSLR for her.
If you read above it looks like she specifically requested DSLR.
I'd seriously consider a 60D.

It's pretty similar in cost to a T4i or T5i and a beefier body with better speed and quality.  I find the heftier body is a selling point for everyone who has already decided they want to go to DSLR.  The 60D also has two control dials which are immensely helpful in manual vs the hold Av button and spin wheel option on the xxxD/Txi models.

Add a 18-55 or an 18-200 and you have a great starter kit.  Adding a 40STM is great too.

Personally, I think a crop is a good place to start, she'll learn to shoot just the same as she would with a 5D.  Then she can decide on her own later if FF is where she wants to go, and then whether or not she wants speed (5D3), or value (used 5D/5D2 or 6D).  She can then choose lenses that she wants for the FF.  For example, I hated the 35mm on crop, but love it on FF.

For a great picture get it right at the camera first, the less you have to correct in PP the less it will look fake.

This works great if you know your destination, sometimes you don't though.  If I'm shooting images for a fun photo book, I don't know if my photo will be cropped to 4:3, 4:5, 16:9 or some other aspect ratio. 

Framing for a perfect 4:3 composition would really limit which photos I could use where.

Similarly, if I'm shooting an event, I'll usually make a slideshow 16:9 if it's full images, or any aspect ratio if it's more like a collage.  Also, I'll probably wind up printing some of the images as large 4:3s.  I like having some space to work with.


Having prices drop from the original introductory price isn't exactly a theory, that can be supported by heaps of data.  The claim here was the price it was going to hit, and it was done with a fair amount of chest thumping.  I'd say it was way the hell off.

My favorite line from the whole thing:

"People who claim this pricing could never happen would have conveniently "forgotten" by then or remain mum when that day does come..."

I was trying to be friendly and diplomatic!

Canon General / Re: Canon LP-E6 Product Advisory
« on: October 09, 2013, 12:32:13 PM »
In essence, does this mean Canon tried to embed a non-genuine battery detection into the charger and screwed it up?

To me it sounds like they have trouble to supply the internal electronics sufficiently when the battery is deeply discharged. I don't think this is related to their security stuff.

I think steb nailed it.  With a lot of Apple's lithium batteries, when really really dead they require a process similar to this.  Quite often they'll be beyond saving though.

Canon General / Re: How to be a bad photographer.
« on: October 09, 2013, 12:30:31 PM »
Very good post.

If you want to be a bad photographer you need to find inspiration here:
Excellent site.  I disagree though when he says photographers shouldn't burn their finished images and let their clients print them how they want.

I'd much rather spend $3k on my wedding photography, get all the images on disc, then print them myself or make my own albums.  I'm probably not the average client as I have a 19" printer at home, and am a couture book and asuka book client.

Paying $2-3k and then having a potentially ballooning print cost with insane markups from the photographer bugs me.  Could be that personally I'm used to being paid by the job and not charging per print though.

Thankfully though my GAS has been mostly cured.

I've slimmed down my fleet of camera gear and rent when I need to for specific tasks.
Now my gear list is: 6D, Sigma 35/1.4, Canon 70-200 f/4IS.
Recently I've rented: 500L II, 5D3, 200/2 IS
Down the pipe is: 1DX, 200-400, 5D3, 70-200/2.8L II, 16-35.

I ran the numbers and it makes way more sense for me to rent than tie up capital in gear.  Rental is also 100% tax deductible which is good.

Asking a digital photog for unedited images is like going to restaurant and asking the chef to take a steak out of the freezer and slap it straight onto a plate and serve it up.

Even uploading, backing up, sorting and rating is part of the editing process. Maybe some cropping thrown in at least. Then there's output sharpening. So saying you don't do PP is basically jpeg in camera straight to client, no middle man PC work at all. I'm sure some people work like that and make money (excluding sports photogs on deadlines where the editor needs the shots right away) but they can't be all that great which is why they value their own work so cheaply.

I've run into this before.  I didn't want unedited images to save money, I was paying the photog the same either way.  I really liked her images, we just didn't share the same post philosophy.  I told her to rate and edit down, but send me her edited JPEGs and RAWs.

Also, I was willing to spend a serious amount of time editing each image, far more than she would be able to.  I'm not opposed to compositing faces from one shot on to another, if for example, I looked really good in one, and my fiancé blinked and vice versa.  My fiancé is a blinker with ETTL, so I'm used to doing this for her.  Unless you take the time to use manual flash she'll blink in over 80% of shots with ETTL.

It let me sharpen to my output, and resize to my needs, I was also able to composite multiple exposures as necessary, she took beautiful photos, and I retouched them how I like and it worked out great.

Software & Accessories / Re: Cheap UV filters: are they worth it?
« on: October 07, 2013, 11:23:02 PM »
Personally, the big reason I spend more money on good filters is that the higher end coatings are far, far, far easier to clean, and way better at resisting getting dirty.

Canon General / Re: Irritating photography advice
« on: October 07, 2013, 05:26:59 PM »
ALWAYS keep the sun to your back......

This.  I'm not sure where it came from

I think it was advice from one of the early German flying aces in WW1 - Oswald Boelcke if memory serves me right.
Makes sense, you'd be hard for the enemy to spot!

Canon General / Re: Irritating photography advice
« on: October 07, 2013, 01:22:48 PM »
ALWAYS keep the sun to your back......

This.  I'm not sure where it came from, but I prefer my subjects not to be suffering a serious case of squinting.

Canon General / Re: Irritating photography advice
« on: October 07, 2013, 01:21:19 PM »
how about,  you need a carbon fiber tripod which cost hundreds of dollars...  and the 20  dollar one I  have that works perfectly fine is  crud.
Depends on your use case.

If you're shooting minute+ exposures with a heavy body and camera, you'll want the more stable tripod.

If you're shooting 5-10 sec max night exposures with a T2i and kit lens, you'll be fine with the $20 one.

I used to shoot with a Gitzo GT3531, and decided to downgrade for weight and length savings to a Benro A2691, on several trial shots comparing them the Gitzo was far more stable.  Still though, for my use, the Benro was far more convenient, and led to me taking more shots.

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Reikan FoCal with Sigma Dock
« on: October 02, 2013, 02:33:07 AM »
I know what you're saying, but wouldn't it be neat if there was a way for focal to give the option of adjusting lens or body?

Then if you had two or three bodies you could move the lens to the average of them, and hopefully it'd be was closer to bang on on any non-AFMA bodies.

Alternately it could ask you whether you'd prefer a lens or AFMA adjustment.

It could also test before/after sigma dock adjustment better than I can by vision.

I currently shoot panoramas using a tripod with my camera in manual mode, manual focus, and manual white balance.  Right now I use the Canon PhotoStitch software that came with my camera.  Whenever the shots used for the panorama have a blue sky, the blue is never consistent across the entire panorama.  You can almost always see a faint line at the stitching site revealing slightly different shades of blue.  Any ideas on how to correct the problem?  I looked thru previous panorama threads and saw that PTGui is highly recommended - not sure if better software would help?

Thanks in advance.

Try the autopano demo. I love that tool, it handles raw and can do exposure blending.


and also apples refusal to add usb host functionality is a death knell for them, there are plenty of android devices i can hook up a 500GB SSD via an OTG USB cable and have all the space i want...
and the said android device has a high res ips display quad core processors takes micro Sd cards and has direct mini HDMI port and it cost $120...

It may be a death knell to your use case, but Apple has always done a good job since the iMac at picking a target market and absolutely controlling it. If they wanted to get into the "pro" side I'm sure they'd succeed, but as of right now they seem happy with their market.


If the church remains fairly unchanging over time, and communicates their stance, you can't really blame them because "they're medieval". Blame yourself for choosing something medieval. Or better yet, rent an abandoned church and dress Uncle Festus up like a minister. The cameras won't know the difference. You could even talk him into wearing a GoPro on his head.

I like your GoPro idea.  I'll definitely pitch this to my fiancé.  That said, GoPros in some of the bridesmaids' and bride's are definitely happening at my wedding.

Umm...just to clarify...did you mean in some of the bridesmaids...or on? Because if it's the first, you might want to look into the new HERO3+ with improved WI-FI :o

Totally forgot to add bouquets originally :)


My 2 cents: same time next year, 6D will be on Ebay for $1200 or less.

We've almost hit that year, and with warranty on eBay we are looking $1,667 right now.

You may have missed the mark, but your theory that prices would drop substantially from the original $2,099 list definitely came true.

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