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Landscape / Re: Sunset landscape
« on: May 14, 2013, 10:36:51 AM »I really like the composition and colors!
I personally think the image could be a bit sharper, but I still like it very much.
i dont even see sharper than this image??
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i dont even see sharper than this image??
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Animal Kingdom / Re: Wrong Photography Ethics?
« on: May 13, 2013, 12:42:14 PM »
so what about staged shoots? where people are placed and things moved around in the scene, a famous one of these is the milkman doing his round during the blitz in london,a completely staged shot. forgetting the war propaganda for a moment, i wouldnt call that unethical, just a good picture.
the key here is subject matter, if your a photojournalist, no its not that ethical to photoshop aside from the basic levels, sharpness etc but if your an artist, hell, there are no rules.
the key here is subject matter, if your a photojournalist, no its not that ethical to photoshop aside from the basic levels, sharpness etc but if your an artist, hell, there are no rules.
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Animal Kingdom / Re: Wrong Photography Ethics?
« on: May 11, 2013, 06:53:38 PM »
If you feel your photography is exceptional and you are a top photographer, try sending your images to Nat Geo.
They only have one rule. You must send them the RAW image aswell. If its tweeked, its in the bin.
Dont believe me? Then give it a try.
so what your saying is its ok to have my raw settings, picture style/saturation/sharpness etc set in camera, but if i zero out everything and do it in my raw converter then its not ok?
that makes no sense to me whatsoever !
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Animal Kingdom / Re: Wrong Photography Ethics?
« on: May 10, 2013, 12:28:32 PM »
isnt exposure time, or aperture just a manipulation of the to be recorded image? a traditional school dark room is just a basic form of photoshop!
a jpeg is also just a manipulated image aswell! a true purist will do those old school trad victorian type photos where the image is done once and once only, and these are usually awesome and a lot more interesting than a converted raw digitial picture.
a jpeg is also just a manipulated image aswell! a true purist will do those old school trad victorian type photos where the image is done once and once only, and these are usually awesome and a lot more interesting than a converted raw digitial picture.
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Animal Kingdom / Re: Wrong Photography Ethics?
« on: May 10, 2013, 08:19:10 AM »
to add to the original discussion, i went to a talk by one of the worlds top wildlife photogrpahers, and he has a famous photo of a polar bear close up. he disclosed it was actually a stuffed polar bear that was in storage in the local area,he took a tight wide angle close up of his face!!! it went on to be one of his best selling images.
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Animal Kingdom / Re: Wrong Photography Ethics?
« on: May 10, 2013, 08:13:53 AM »
i was recently on safari and two american tourists were treating the locals like part of the trip. elephants.lions...african children. i found it very uncomfortable. would you drive around your home town taking photos of young girls? or the guy who works in the local shop? i find the whole photography tourist thing very odd sometimes, and god knows what they think of us.
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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: dissapointed 6d 100mm f2 and 24mm 2.8 (non l)
« on: May 09, 2013, 01:42:13 PM »I have shot enough in Arizona, USA and Southern Israel (similar harsh light during midday and dust in the air) to know that if you don't shoot at the right times of day, you WILL get harsh, flat images. Filters help, but it's a battle, even in post processing.
That dust in the air becomes a major advantage in the morning and particularly in the evening, however, producing amazing sunsets unrivaled in other environments. It's difficult when you can't control the time of day you shoot, because I think you will find that the really stunning pictures of the pyramids were almost certainly not taken at the time of day that you were shooting.
its interesting doing a quick search on google of pyramid images, most are pretty average, and alot have what ibelieve to be skys added into them in post processing.
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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: dissapointed 6d 100mm f2 and 24mm 2.8 (non l)
« on: May 08, 2013, 03:52:34 PM »I wonder if the "waves" from the heat inbetween you and the pyramids is causing the lack of perceived sharpness. I don't know the technical term, but you know in the summer when you look at the road or the hood of your car and it blurs everything?
It's from the refraction of light as it goes through air of varying density. And I think it's a decent guess that the combo of that, and the apparently bad Cokin CPL, that caused the softness. But the conversation seemed to move on from that into a chest thumping competition of the 'rules' of photography.
im trying to bring it back, lol i think wihtout uploading alot of different shots and comparing then to others of mine, i dont think i can get across my original point that the results i got from a 2 week holiday with my new 6d and fairly new lenses, to two interesting places were wholly dissapointing compared to previous exscursion on my 400d where i was happy with the results, forget the pyramid picture, that is just one photo from 1000! i just thought the investment , though no way in making me a better photographer, would improve the quality of images overall by a degree or two. being full frame , new tech, better glass etc but in fact my photos seem to be worse! less sharp focus, lots of off focus shots, i thought that centre point was meant to be good! i need to take lots more shots i guess. any way im disheartened and confused. i seriously miss my 400d and the nifty fifty!
im also paranoid that my lenses micro adjustments are off, and that my 6d is dodgy! is it worth getting then once over, just for piece of mind?
points to be taken away, get a better polariser/filters! if im serious about getting some good landscapes. be more aware of pollution and heat haze, compensate, i still would rather take a picture in these situations than avoid taken one all together. but be more creative. also i should probably take every photo following the rule of thirds exactly, or maybe i should implament a golden ratio grid to my viewfinder
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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: dissapointed 6d 100mm f2 and 24mm 2.8 (non l)
« on: May 08, 2013, 12:00:44 PM »
1.the pyramids only open from 8am and shut at 4 or 5 , not great for the magic hours. and my trip dictated an early afternoon visit.
2. see above
3.i dont feel the need to bracket shots for hdr ( not my thing) , though i did take a variety of differently exposed images
4.i took lots of images of all the pyramids at different angles/distances. this is just one shot.
5. agreed.
i do not agree with the castigation that i dont follow the rules of photography. your points arnt photographic rules they are desirable situations.
2. see above
3.i dont feel the need to bracket shots for hdr ( not my thing) , though i did take a variety of differently exposed images
4.i took lots of images of all the pyramids at different angles/distances. this is just one shot.
5. agreed.
i do not agree with the castigation that i dont follow the rules of photography. your points arnt photographic rules they are desirable situations.
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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: dissapointed 6d 100mm f2 and 24mm 2.8 (non l)
« on: May 08, 2013, 10:12:24 AM »Also .. I wasn't using the 100 f2 nor the 24 2.8 non IS.
That was with the 24-105L I think.
If you look at the-digital-picture resolution charts, you'll find out that if you're shooting at small apertures there isn't any point to using a prime lens.
I find my 100 f2 to be inappropriate to use during the day. Too easy for purple fringing to occur if the AF misses, at f2.
The 24 2.8 has beautiful softness/vignetting off centre. So it's good to focus stuff in the centre. For daytime, it's ok - but watch the flare! That lens LOVEs to flare.
yeah i chose that 24mm becuase of the image quality at the wider end (according to those charts) compared to more expensive lenses was pretty close. (plus i got a deal on ebay) i was hoping it would make a good all round travel /landscape lens. would people agree with that?
it is a coincidence you have the same set up, yes the pyramids sites were dusty and bright, i wish i hadnt turned up at 2pm but for me it was either early afternoon, or 8am (due to my schedule) shame they dont let you into the site at sunset or sunrise.
i am confuused now though, for landscape shots, where overall focus is desirable, what is a maximum aperture, people are saying oooh f10, youll get diffraction, but i thought that was a good trade off between diffraction and overall focus. would an f5.6 have been better? sharper?
interestingly the other area i visited was a wet uganda in the higlands, same problems, though slightly better results. the humidity and the overall cloudy mistiness was part of what i was trying to capture, but this gave flat pictures, others have taken good shots in these areas, so one day i must be able too!
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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: dissapointed 6d 100mm f2 and 24mm 2.8 (non l)
« on: May 08, 2013, 07:30:48 AM »
what basic rules of photography have i not applied? aside from the rule of thirds.
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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: dissapointed 6d 100mm f2 and 24mm 2.8 (non l)
« on: May 08, 2013, 05:17:03 AM »
thanks for all the input , yes i had it on one shot focus, i used back button focus also.
i like waht people have done with the picture, but my point wasnt really about the composition, i have many variatins of this photo examp[e, more sky, less sky, foreground people at different area of the frame etc l its more the actual image quality theres no core quality to the photos to develop from. even when processing, im struggling with getting good punchy images. i did used to shoot raw before aswell.
i suppose my problem could be dealing with subject matter, the heat and humidity might be one fo the problems i was encountering, plus possibly poor quality Polariser. i was going for the wider landscapes this time, rather than a 'street' style were everything is closer.
i like waht people have done with the picture, but my point wasnt really about the composition, i have many variatins of this photo examp[e, more sky, less sky, foreground people at different area of the frame etc l its more the actual image quality theres no core quality to the photos to develop from. even when processing, im struggling with getting good punchy images. i did used to shoot raw before aswell.
i suppose my problem could be dealing with subject matter, the heat and humidity might be one fo the problems i was encountering, plus possibly poor quality Polariser. i was going for the wider landscapes this time, rather than a 'street' style were everything is closer.
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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: dissapointed 6d 100mm f2 and 24mm 2.8 (non l)
« on: May 07, 2013, 01:32:22 PM »
theres lots of space because its a desert! thats what i was trying to get across. i have hundreds of different pyramid photos, but this is sadly one of the more successful captures.
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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: dissapointed 6d 100mm f2 and 24mm 2.8 (non l)
« on: May 06, 2013, 05:32:19 PM »
yeah i took lots of different shots, there are 1000 photos! but alot of them are landscapes, and i was trying to experiment with different settings, wide/small apertures, tripod,mirror up, polarisers,and a nd grad , but im still generally disappointed with the results. they were quite hard shots, big landscapes, sunny/steamy weather maybe the 24mm lens just wanst up to it, maybe i wasnt up to it , but i expected to get at least get lucky enough a few times! ive used photoshop and raw processers alot before so its not like im forgetting to process, 3 years ago i went to mexico with a 400d and a 50mm 1.8 and i came back with so many sharp good looking pictures, this time around it was a complete failure on my part!!!! im very confused!