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Canon General / Re: Is canon going to come back?
« on: November 30, 2012, 12:23:54 PM »
Canon will have to loose market share to get back on a consumer-friendly track.

cant agree more. I am just pissed about what they are doing and for that reason (not only the d800 fits my style really well) i consider switching.

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Canon General / Re: Is canon going to come back?
« on: November 30, 2012, 12:08:34 PM »
Ok, i am going to try to answer all the responses etc.

Selling my stuff: My bill would be around 200€ higher if i switch, but i´d be switching for some good glass etc.

Honestly: Not trolling i´m just worried about my beloved canon. Maybe the title is a bit aggressive but i want a good discussion in here, not just some people beeing very friendly.

Lenses: Sure, Canon has the edge here. That´s why i chose them 4 years ago. But now, 4 years later, i came to realize that i will never really need those lenses and that Nikon has some really good glass to offer (for example the 24-70). And you can use their old glass on their new bodys too.

I have handled both, the Canon and the Nikon. In terms of ergonomics i didnt find anyone of those superior but i obviously enjoyed the canon more, as i am used to the system. Obviously the canon menu seems better to us but as soon as you get deeper into it it´s also complicated.

I didnt want to ask nikon guys as i already know their opinion. I wanted to ask us (or you guys and girls) about your opinions and if you guys think canon will be far superior when 18nm hits the market.

5d3/d600: Not comparable? Just a short list: 23/24MP, 6/5,5fps, 61/39 autofocus points (ok canon winns here by far), and now to the obviously nikon-dominant (and i just think that their testing is of) dxomark: 11,7EV/14,2EV. Thats much. Oh and ... 1200€ cheaper. 5d3 obviously is tuffer and for pros etc but IQ whise they dont have that many differences.

5d3 is a better package? I would love to know why.

"d800 destroying in most parts" (quote from myself) I never said every part, high iso is actually where the 5d3 shines, but a downscaled d800 destroys the d700 so you cant say that it´s far behind in that point either. A question: Was the d700 sensor already 18nm?

The rest besides the d800´s sensor. I dont see anything worse about the d800 against the 5d3.

dqreview. I know, if i want to have "good" statements i should post there. but i actually want the fanboy opinions and the more normal ones because i am a fanboy myself (on the canon side offcourse).

50 1.2, 85 1.2 Ok those are two really tempting canon lenses, cant argue about that.

For me it is the d800. But it is all about whats going to happen in the near future and if canon is able to make something like the d800 without beeing like "no we cant give you that" "no we had to loose some af point for the price".

When i first picked up a dslr i actually enjoyed the nikons more but the canons nearly equally as much. I actually disliked the middle wheel on the canons (thumb-wheel) cause you have to move your thumb so much.

Dont wanna troll anywhere. Sure Canon is making more money. Look at their pricing, they are just thinking "oh we can give pur customers anything, we dont have to compete with nikon. Lets put 11 autofocuspoints in there and say gps and wlan are much more important!" Thats what i think about the 6D after i saw the first test footage and the whole slow wlan stuff (turning it off in video mode etc), no clean hdmi. They are trolling us.

Yes i love my canon stuff. Havent had a problem with any but i just cant afford to keep my stuff and get a Nikon. For me going FF is a big investment and that would be too much.


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Canon General / Re: Is canon going to come back?
« on: November 29, 2012, 09:33:33 AM »
it sure is the better general use camera but: i am doing stock, portrait, landscape stuff and the occasional low light event. And most of those are parts where the d800 shines and honestly destroys the 5d3. and it´s nearly the same price as a 6D.

and they even have the d600, which is cheaper and better then 5d2 and 6d and on the level with the 5d3 (besides the build quality). But obviously this one is out until they fix the sensor dust thing.

Yeah they are the market leader but look at their products: A 5d3 which is no real IQ improvment over the 5d2 - ok af, a bit high iso and video. 6D - a camera nobody knows who it is for... not rugged enough for landscape, no pc sync for studio, too much MP for awesome high iso. And now look at the other guys: d800 - can be the cheap medium format for everybody. d600 - take of 1000€ from the 5d3 and you have it. a99 - just wow for the video crowd.

@PackLight
Why should i be trolling? i am not trolling i just see what my beloved canon brand is doing and i´m thinking about it, yes.

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Canon General / Is canon going to come back?
« on: November 29, 2012, 09:11:05 AM »
So i´m in the market for a full frame camera right now. I only have FF lenses for EF mount, so switching would at least mean the loss of a lens or two (money reasons).
Right now canon is far behind others. Or lets just say it: Nikon.

The d800 is 2300€ the 5d3 is 2900€ and the Nikon just is the superior camera. If you downsize the image even high iso is awesome, af is good etc. It´s just a really good body and much more in the price range of a 6d.

I want to stick with canon but if they are going to make their first competitive body in like 5 years i really have to consider switching....

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EOS Bodies / Re: Will the 6D have video AF
« on: November 27, 2012, 02:27:52 PM »
Nope it wont have good video af, in fact it will be worse than the t4i. 6D wont support STM lenses, no phase detection point on the sensor.

The only FullFrame camera with good video AF is the a99.

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Lenses / Re: Missing Lens?
« on: November 25, 2012, 07:09:30 AM »
Lee Filters can work with adapters but the 14mm doesnt have a filter thread. But there are adapters available!

I know it a really different price point but the samyang 14mm is also a very nice lens and af on super-wide angles isnt that important.

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Lenses / Re: "Affordable" telephoto lens for wildlife
« on: November 21, 2012, 10:32:47 AM »
Take a look at a used sigma 500 4.5. It´s around 2000-2500€ used and it´s a good wilflife lens. Dont have one myself but used it :)

and teleconverters always make the quality worse, on crop and on full frame.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5d2 vs 6d
« on: November 19, 2012, 02:05:28 PM »
@Leon
Upresing isnt allowed for stock. that would be unfair for the customer (they can do that themselfs) and iStock notices that.
I dont have to buy new glas, i bought mine for FF because i knew that i was going to upgrade.

@HobbyShooter
We all know that the AF is better than the 6D, just look at the specs. We all know that Nikon is on 180nm and Canon on 500nm so they have better high iso.

@Nicku
Not gonna switch, i love my Canon ergonomics and i have spent a bit in glass ;)

@Marsu i´d say you cannot start out and not be broke ;)

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5d2 vs 6d
« on: November 19, 2012, 12:56:10 AM »
Nope, can neither use a tripod nor slow shutter speed. I'm mostly photographing theater stuff or other not very bright events.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5d2 vs 6d
« on: November 18, 2012, 12:27:02 PM »
So you say it´s not bad. Thats good to hear :)

@Marsu 40D has the same rating as the 5d2 -0,5LV. Yeah you are right i would never spend money which i currently dont have on gear. 5d2+PC+Accesories is the same price as 6D+Accesories.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5d2 vs 6d
« on: November 18, 2012, 11:57:45 AM »
I can afford the used 5d3 but i would also need a new PC. I build this thing myself so it´s going to be around 500€. I cant do that with the 5d3, maybe possible with the 6d and i can shure do that with the 5d2.

But my main complain: Does the focus of the 5d2 really suck balls in low light (sorry for the words)?
I know how good High-ISO is and i love the body and the button layout but i never handled one in low light.

@Marsu I hope the second thing is the truth ;)

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5d2 vs 6d
« on: November 18, 2012, 11:32:03 AM »
For me 40D without BG is a bit to small, with bg its perfect.
6D is for sure better than the 5d2 but it is worth it?
Do you think Magic Lantern can bring clean hdmi to the 6d?

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5d2 vs 6d
« on: November 18, 2012, 11:17:59 AM »
@Marsu
Thats only for iStock, which is the only company where i´m selling. They made those new sizes with the introduction of the 5d2 so... you see where they come from ;)

I honestly think that the 6D is going to be great but the body is sooo tiny!
5d3: It´s like Tofu. It isnt fish, it isnt meat. Great AF but not fast enough for sports or action (wildlife). Good build but not as sturdy as 1D. Good for landscapes and studio but not enough MP. Good for video but no clean hdmi out till next year.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5d2 vs 6d
« on: November 18, 2012, 10:25:03 AM »
Yeah.. it´s pretty hard. I can get a used ("used") 5d3 for 2500€. For that price i would have to sell the 40d (but i would keep the speed) and i wouldnt be able to get the battery grip. I have to think about that one.

@steliosk
Yeah and that 1 MP is so shitty for me. on iStock i can go to XXL with 21 but only to XL with 20.

@ZV
Yeah new sensor.. but the 5d3 also ahs a new sensor and as long as they dont use the new making (180nm) in the 6d sensor i dont see a big possibility for an improvment.

I take it the 5D III is out of your price range? Sounds like it would fit your needs though - 22mp, great high ISO, low light sensitivity and great AF. Plus CF cards. Could you stretch to a 5D III? It might be worth the investment. Sounds like your already making money from photography. That to me is justification for the price.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5d2 vs 6d
« on: November 18, 2012, 09:59:53 AM »
@steliosk
Yeah and that 1 MP is so shitty for me. on iStock i can go to XXL with 21 but only to XL with 20.

@ZV
Yeah new sensor.. but the 5d3 also ahs a new sensor and as long as they dont use the new making (180nm) in the 6d sensor i dont see a big possibility for an improvment.

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