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I'm going nuts.  I can't wait for the new Sigma 50mm to come out and I wind up buying a 135L for around $650...

So now I don't know what I'm going to do... maybe sell my 85mm f/1.8... maybe just wait 2 years until the 50mm art is at a price I'm willing to jump in at so I'll have both the 85 and the 135L for my low light shots... maybe I'm just nuts and I need to find a different hobby.

It's like I'm the GM of a football team... but I don't have any clear direction.  I assemble a great team... that can do it all... but all too often, my great players sit the bench...

That's not true... the mkiii and the 70-200 get a ton of work... but still... I need to sleep on it.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Camera porn (SFW)
« on: February 09, 2014, 12:03:14 AM »
That was less pornagraphic and more infographic.  Not so much the making the baby as much as making the baby... an endoscope with time lapse photography that spans 9 months.  Sure the baby is growing... but it aint do much for ma dong.

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Lenses / Re: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art Price leaked
« on: February 08, 2014, 04:26:32 PM »
I accept your experience and don't think you are wrong in any way. The problem is that your experience is what it SHOULD be when you pay money, my experience is a product that you MUST buy and or try multiple copies of to get you paid for. That's a big difference IMO .. That is also no proof that my experience and others with me, are wrong either. I accept that there are working 35 art lenses, but you must accept that there are quite a few that's not working as they should, and that is an inconsistency in QC that's not acceptable. Fact.


To be fair, Canon has inconsistency problems in some of their lenses, too.  For example, I gave up trying to find a copy of the 28-135 that didn't have unacceptable levels of lens creep right out of the box.  And after lenses get used for a while, some Canon zoom lenses end up with pretty significant copy variation:

http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2011/10/the-limits-of-variation


I'm not questioning the IQ and sharpness of the Sigma at all. People gotta read before answering... AF AF AF AF AF !


Yeah... but there is a good contingent of us... who say any auto focus on a premier lens is just gravy... and Canon has been derelict for years to provide us with a 50mm that WOWS!!!  So we are willing to consider a lens that doesn't have the best AF...

I guess what I'm saying is that we are willing to settle... 50mm... can't be too sharp because the bokeh suffers (50L)... can't have a reliable auto focus motor because it will cost too much (50 f1.4)... can't have a solid build quality like the mk i because it will cost more (50 f/1.8 mkii).  We've been making sacrafices... and in this instance... we we willing to gamble on the auto focus because the image quality is presumed to be so outstanding. 

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Lenses / Re: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art Price leaked
« on: February 08, 2014, 04:22:43 PM »
I accept your experience and don't think you are wrong in any way. The problem is that your experience is what it SHOULD be when you pay money, my experience is a product that you MUST buy and or try multiple copies of to get you paid for. That's a big difference IMO .. That is also no proof that my experience and others with me, are wrong either. I accept that there are working 35 art lenses, but you must accept that there are quite a few that's not working as they should, and that is an inconsistency in QC that's not acceptable. Fact.


To be fair, Canon has inconsistency problems in some of their lenses, too.  For example, I gave up trying to find a copy of the 28-135 that didn't have unacceptable levels of lens creep right out of the box.  And after lenses get used for a while, some Canon zoom lenses end up with pretty significant copy variation:

http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2011/10/the-limits-of-variation


I had one of those for a short period of time... lens creep was crazy.  I didn't have one until I had a ton of experience with other lenses... but yeah... it was pretty bad.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Repair or replace 7D
« on: February 08, 2014, 04:21:23 PM »
Considering that you can buy a brand new 7D (grey-market) for under a grand, a $600 repair bill is rather obscene.

http://www.abesofmaine.com/item.do?item=CNEOS7D&id=CNEOS7D&l=PLA&gclid=CNn2k_-evbwCFYeEfgodYRUAag

I think if I were in your position, I'd disassemble it and sell all the working parts on eBay to other people that Canon wants to overcharge for repairs, then buy a new camera....


That's true... maybe you can get more than the $200 you would get making the repair and selling it.

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Sports / Re: Horses / Horseriding etc
« on: February 08, 2014, 04:20:36 PM »
Here's a quick question... when shooting horse riding coming towards you... do yall try for both the horse's head/face and the riders to both be in focus or do you aim for one or the other... and if the other is blurred... it's blurred. 

I know the distance along at which we are shooting will usually have both within the depth of field... but it is something I've been wondering.

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Lenses / Re: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art Price leaked
« on: February 08, 2014, 09:18:33 AM »
I have had no such issues. I bought three Sigma 35mm f/1.4 lenses right when they came out and had zero issues from then until now with 4 5D Mark III bodies, and 3 crop bodies. The thing about reading information about lenses like this online is that people only post when they have a crazy problem. Nobody posts when everything is A OK. The majority of lenses are A OK.

That's the way it is with most complaints.  Hotels, stores, restaurants... that's why word of mouth is so important... because you better do a GREAT job otherwise people will hear it. 

I do find it disconcerting about the AF being inconsistent... but again... if the lens approaches the Otus... (which doesn't have auto focus)... then I'm not sure I mind.  My left hand still works and I manually focus when I want... so does my daughter... So the AF is a bonus when performance is this outstanding. 

I can understand the 35 argument... where the sigma is a little better than the L, but no light years beyond.  I feel that this 50 is going to be light years beyond the Canon offerings.

When I had my canon 50mm f/1.8, I loved it and I was so ignorant I shot at f/1.8 all the time and I wondered why my shots were soft... then I learned that it sharpens up around f/2.8 or so... as does its bigger brother, the f/1.4.  I upgraded to the f/1.4 because I had some extra cash, but I never loved it.  Why do we buy a sports car?  The bitches... yes... but to drive fast.  Why do we get primes... to shoot wide open.  Without that possibility... We might as well just get a miata... a car that kinda looks like a sports car.

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Lenses / Re: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art Price leaked
« on: February 08, 2014, 12:19:20 AM »
So what are the complaints here?  With any wide open prime with a shallow depth of field, AF can be off.  That's why there is micro adjustment.  Are the complaints saying that AF was off by over the 20 +/-?  Or are they saying that even after you get a micro adjust number, the AF is just random and all over the place...?

Would the dock fix the issue and people are just cutting bait before fixing the problem?

I'd rent the dock for a weekend... but I'm not quite sure I would buy it for just one lens.  And obviously if the firmware changed... then I would rent it again...

Thanks for the clarification... I'm never quite sure what complaints are genuine or a factor of user error.

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Lenses / Re: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art Price leaked
« on: February 07, 2014, 03:17:51 PM »
I have said this before in a different capacity... but if you give me closer to the performance of a lens that doesn't have auto focus... and a third of the price with auto focus... I really don't care if the auto focus works perfectly or not... because it feels like it was thrown in for free.

I don't mind the size of the lens... or the weight... but I am concerned about the focal length.  I used to love the 50mm range... then I got other lenses with prettier bokehs... and now I'm concerned that I won't be able to fall in love again.


$1300 for a 50mm f1.4?!?!?!?  Maybe if it had Canon AF but that is waaaay too steep considering you have to play the sigma lottery.  I was going to pre-order this lens if it was in the $800 range but for $1300 i'm out.....


You do realize that both Canon and Nikon's top pro 50mm lenses run $1700 right? This lens blows these competitors out of the water in every conceivable dimension and costs less. It is such an improvement over the top alternatives that is  the single greatest generational improvement in image quality in the history of pro Canon or Nikon autofocus lenses. That's not an exaggeration. We are literally talking around double the performance of the nearest competitor, which again run $1700 if you forgot.

Read this part of this thread if you want to know what makes this lens so special:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=16643037&postcount=377

You are getting performance that compares to a $4,000 Zeiss lens for 3/4 the the price of the nearest competitor.

I welcome the $1300 price tag, this lens deserves it.


Now lets not but the body ahead of the lens now. They are saying they're gunning for the otus, but, that may be more PR buzz.


Did you read the link at all? The performance of this lens is not in question. The data has shown that they the performance will be as extreme as they claim.

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will it meet and exceed the current canon 50's?


If by "meet or exceed" you mean 182% the average spacial resolution of the Canon 50mm f/1.2 and 178% of the Canon 50mm f/1.4, then yes. Basically at a given aperture you can expect slightly better performance in the extreme corners with this new Sigma than you will see in the center of Canon's other 50mm lenses.

We already have the data, and we already know how the performance will stack up.

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  And, how will it stack against the new canon 50 Is when it comes out?  Now those are things I wonder.


The Sigma 50mm f/1.4 ART is an incredibly complex and incredibly huge 50mm lens that uses a radical retrofocal optical formula pioneered by Zeiss with the Otus. It's fundamental design shift that is nothing like any other 50mm lens and requires a huge lens with tons of expensive glass.

There is basically zero chance of a small cheap consumer 50mm f/1.8 or f/2.0 receiving the radical design responsible for the doubling of performance relative to the competition.



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Lenses / Re: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art Price leaked
« on: February 06, 2014, 11:31:08 PM »
Relax :). It may cost even less than 35Art, like $799.
35Art MSRP:$1,400.00 - Price:$899.00
50Art MSRP:$1,300.00 - Price:$799.00
...makes sense?

Ding! Ding! Ding! You win the prize. I'll put $799 down that you're within 50 bucks.  8)

The 35 art is a really good lens... and in regards to wide open sharpness, it is better than the 35L.  But it isn't in a different league.  They are close.

The 50 art is supposed to blow away the 50L and is indeed in a different league.  I think 1300 is going to be the going rate... and it still will be a bargain.  Magic bokehs be damned.

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Lenses / Re: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art Price leaked
« on: February 06, 2014, 11:22:25 PM »
I don't remember sigma overstating anything lately.  The 35mm delivered.  The 24-105 is on par with the canon 24-105 and a little better... and it gives sony and nikon people a good option... I don't remember them saying that it was going to light the world on fire. 

If they brag now... maybe it is deserved... and since they haven't lied to me recently, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

$1300 for a 50mm f1.4?!?!?!?  Maybe if it had Canon AF but that is waaaay too steep considering you have to play the sigma lottery.  I was going to pre-order this lens if it was in the $800 range but for $1300 i'm out.....


Hilarious! You do realize that this lens is the single greatest generational improvement in image quality in the history of pro Canon or Nikon autofocus lenses right? That's not an exaggeration. We are literally talking around double the performance of the nearest competitor, which run $1700 if you forgot.

Read this part of this thread if you want to know what makes this lens so special:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=16643037&postcount=377

This isn't a lens isn't even remotely a question of value. You are getting performance that compares to a $4,000 Zeiss lens for less the the price of the nearest competitors from any brand.

Not sure where you get this all from. About the only description of performance we have so far is from Sigma. Not exactly an unbiased view. If it's very good I'll probably buy it, but proof of the pudding's in the eating.

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Lenses / Re: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art Price leaked
« on: February 06, 2014, 09:58:09 PM »
I welcome that price, it might be much less copy variation, higher tolerance, actual precise AF and superb optical quality. It might even be both sharp and nice bokeh.

Put me down for one  :D

I'm just wondering how many pros who use an auto-focusing 50mm prime are still using the ancient Canon 50 F/1.4 (not-quite-modern-)USM as they just don't have a sharper / more reliable AF lens to shoot with.

Those folks will gladly pay $1300 for this lens (if that is the price).  I just don't know how many are out there.

- A

A lot... There are a few 50 L's out there and not even close to half of them are owned by pro's. And if people actually got a sharp 50 for the same money or less, I think it well sell by the boatload  :D

Here's my thought process... I have the cash to buy the lens and if the lens is 90 % of the otus, but 125% of the 50L.

Sign me up.  Auto focus is a bonus... I even if it is as slow as the 85L mkii...if the af is fast and quality control good... I might even pay full retail price. 

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Lenses / Re: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art Price leaked
« on: February 06, 2014, 09:43:35 PM »
When they started comparing it to a 4000 lens in regards to performance... my presumed price point went from 900 to 1200.  1300 isn't that far off and I would still wait a little bit to save 20%... but I hope it does blow away Canon's offerings.

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Pricewatch Deals / Re: Canon Lens Sale at B&H Photo
« on: February 05, 2014, 01:41:32 PM »
So it's that time of year when sale prices are only a little outrageous..

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Software & Accessories / Re: How long a Monopod should be
« on: February 05, 2014, 01:38:04 PM »

I had tendonitis in my shoulder where the tension attaches to the humorous... and that was some of the worst pain I ever felt.  You hear about tennis elbow and you make fun of it, and I'm a pretty tough guy... and it just knocked me on my ass.

I believe that you had tensionitis, not tendonitis. If the pain had been where the tendon attaches to the serious(humerus), rather than where the tension attaches to the humorous, it might have been tendonitis.  ;)

Never having made a single mistake of any kind during my 73 years, I feel qualified to help you with your spelling. :P

I'm pleading the fifth... and throwing my phone under the bus at the same time. 

I should proof read... but that isn't my strong point.

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