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Is that just the random price or you actually saw these lenses on sale that cheap?
In regard to your question, my vote goes for 85 1.2ii, but you need to decide which focal length you use more. So people don't like 85mm, others don't like 135mm.

The prices are reflective of prices that I either have purchased before or are in the process of buying.  I have some back channel methods for reducing my costs...

So for others... it is more expensive... for me...I'm more than happy with the price I wind up with.

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Lenses / Re: Bought the 300mm 2.8 ii and think its huge
« on: April 20, 2014, 09:23:00 PM »
I felt uncomfortable for the first time ever with this lens. Its awesome fast and sharp but wonder if the limited use will be worth tying up $7300. Any uses that would be helpful to try.

How much can you sell it for if you want to buy something else?  I think of all of my gear as having money in escrow. 

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Photography Technique / Re: Am I the only one this has happened to?
« on: April 20, 2014, 09:20:12 PM »
Thanks all for the support.

Here is the epilogue.

I did offer to show him the pics, but red faced, he declined.  When I left, I did take his pic, and I let him know that I was doing it, just to piss him off.

Here is the kicker.  I am a respected surgeon in town.  I get total enjoyment behind my camera, I get my creative outlet, and it is a stress reliever.  In a given week, many people put their lives in my hands.  Not a big deal, it is my profession.  I like being anonymous behind a camera, and also having no responsibilities.

So, I would be the last one in the world to be involved in this and at the same time, I am furious at this twit for appointing himself playground monitor. 

Given all that is going on in the world, I am like so many of you, very paranoid about kids, so I don't point a lens at any that aren't family or friends who request portraits.

Sheesh.

sek

Make sure you have the lens insured before you go around taking people's photos and pissing them off.  If they act out and decide to smash your body/lens to the ground... I wouldn't want to rely on the police to find them and make them responsible for the the cost of the damages... and even if they were caught, they might not have two farthings to rub together...

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Photography Technique / Re: Am I the only one this has happened to?
« on: April 20, 2014, 09:15:03 PM »
Actually, it did happen once.  I just got a lens from Amazon, a 70-200 f/4L USM... and I was excited about.  I got the delivery @ 1:45p.m. and I needed to pick up my kid from school around 2:30, so I took my body and my new lens to the school parking lot and waited.  While I waited for my daughter and the kids to be dismissed into the parking lot, I rolled down my window and took some boring photos... power lines, trees (stuff that was high and away from the parents cars and their kids that weren't old enough to be in school). 

And a few minutes before the kids are let out I get a tap on my window from one of the janitors at the school.  And that poor guy is put in the awkward position of telling me to not photograph... but he said... oh you are one of the parents... we got a call...

And at that point I volunteered to put it away.  I didn't put the janitor through the uncomfortable circumstance of asking a parent to put away a camera. 

But that was annoying... because I think I was at the school for a good three or four years at that point, and I really wasn't doing anything crazy... and I was in the parking lot... not like a crazy perv across the street with my 600mm lens... but yes... it is the world we live in. 

Amazingly, despite everyone and their dog having a camera on their phone, REAL cameras are feared and evidently, a cause for concern.

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Photography Technique / Re: Am I the only one this has happened to?
« on: April 20, 2014, 08:12:41 PM »
Happened to me a few years back at the Whistler tube park.  Just pointed to my children and said "if those are your kids I'll stop now." She went from foaming at the mouth to red faced fast enough to freeze the action on the slope!

You should have taken a photo of her just then and really pissed her off.

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Photography Technique / Re: Am I the only one this has happened to?
« on: April 20, 2014, 07:53:22 PM »
No... but I generally try not to shoot other kids without permission and I know you weren't doing that.

That's tough, because I can smoothie with home because I have a crazy wife who would be concerned about pervs so she might have asked me to do something stupid like that.  I would have approached the photog and asked that they not photograph my kid because I have a bat S___ crazy wife...

But she has mellowed. 

I photograph my daughter's school events and no one has ever asked me not to... but I think I volunteer the year book info pretty quickly so they know why I'm doing it.

As a joke I have though about getting an index card in my fedora that says press... but that seems silly.

Don't take too much offense.  At least the guy cared about his kid, presuming there was his kid in the mix... because we see a ton of apathy from some parents.

Also... maybe you have Jon Hamm condition where your package is just huge even when flaccid so it looks like you are hiding a cobra inyour pants. 


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Alternative: Sigma 85 f1.4, use the savings to take your significant other out for a night on the town, pocket the rest.  Enjoy your bokehs and extra dollars

I was seriously considering jumping on board with the Sigma 50 art... and then this came up and I was like, Sigma who?

I've never cared for after market manufacturers... mostly because their products depreciate significantly faster than Canon gear.  I hate... HATE... losing money on gear that I bought regardless of whether I bought it new or used...

I have a formula... and I've shared it a few places... so this isn't anything new.

If you pay X for a lens, use it for a few years (Y), and then sell it @ Z, then the cost of owning the lens is (Z-X)/Y= cost per year.  I realize there isn't a noble price in mathematics in my future, but if I buy the 85L, I should be able to sell it for around $1600 in 3... maybe 4 years... and therefore the formula works out as such:
(1600-1440)/4= 40 bucks a year that I am GETTING to play with the lens at my leisure.  So it is not only a free rental... but I get a little back on top of it as well. 

And I do this with all my gear.  The bodies... as all of us do lose the money money for us.  It is the cost of admission to this wonderful hobby that occasionally makes us a few bucks.  My golf game on the other hand... never made me a dollar... even with side bets for beer.

So I'm digressing... and I'm sure the sigma is a fine piece of glass... and if I bought a used like new one I could probably break even as well... but if all I'm doing is breaking even, I might as well get the king of the 85's... and that title at the moment belongs to Canon. 

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: the canon 100d/sl1
« on: April 20, 2014, 11:02:23 AM »
I bought one for my wife. We put a 40mm pancake on it and she carries it everywhere! It really is a fantastic alternative to a point and shoot. She can drop it with the pancake in her pure and take along the 55-250STM and she is good to go.

If her purse is like my wife's... I hope she puts it in a plastic bag.

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Canon General / Re: "MAP" pricing....How long will it last????
« on: April 20, 2014, 07:19:57 AM »
Were they ever 20% off the refurb price?  10% is weak.  But tax does blow.  It is only 6% for me, but I think about all the other stuff I could get with that 6%...

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Both are great for portraits, the 85mm focal length is more versatile, IMO.  135mm is good for individual headshots.  Your signature indicates you have the 70-200 II, f/2 is close, f/1.2 isn't so close.

While I agree the 85mm FL is more versatile, would you say the 85L as a lens is more versatile than the 135L?
On the other hand, the OP does say the main focus is portraiture- so the 85L is a better lens on an FF camera (from the perspective point of view, pun unintended, in strictly my opinion).
JD, my suggestion to buy the 135L is purely based on the assumption you will get the 85L later. I was merely responding to your original post before you changed it, where you wanted to know which was a better deal.

I understood what you were saying.  And when I give advice... it is with the presumption that if someone is getting a cheaper of the two options... that opens up money for more gear... not for car payments, mortgages, and tuition...

And part of the reason I was asking is because I did have the 135L at $635 and change and now buying the 85L mkii at $1440, it doesn't seem like as much of a bargain... and that is what I have having a tough time wrapping my head around. 

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Both are great for portraits, the 85mm focal length is more versatile, IMO.  135mm is good for individual headshots.  Your signature indicates you have the 70-200 II, f/2 is close, f/1.2 isn't so close.

That's a good point about f/2 v. f/2.8.  I did want a really good low light prime and I was going to settle for the sigma 50 art which we all know is f/1.4... but I was getting a case of cold feet. 

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85L II.

Thanks.  $635 seems so much cheaper than $1440... and I do realize because it is...

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I always have heard good things about the Tokina.  People love the Canon too, but if I were to decide between the two... I'd lean towards the Tokina.  I should qualify my opinion to say that I have no experience with either lens, I don't like wide angle photography, and I historically prefer Canon gear because it doesn't depreciate very quickly. 

So all of my normal 3 suggestions are antithetical to my suggestion... So yeah...

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Lenses / What's a better value? 135L for $635ish or 85L mkii for $1440
« on: April 19, 2014, 10:58:59 PM »
I had a completely different set of paragraphs... and I sounded like a prick... So let's not go down that path. 

Let's go hypothetical... if you have the chance to buy either of the two lenses in used-like new condition, which would you choose.  Your main focus is portraiture and you don't want to use that money to buy other things.

Discuss.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: the canon 100d/sl1
« on: April 19, 2014, 09:44:12 PM »
I bought my daughter an Xti.  It was ok... but it didn't do a few things that I thought she would take advantage of, like live view focusing, better iso functionality, etc.  So I upgraded her to a sl1. 

My thought on it are as follows.  It's good enough.  I like the size of it for a 10 year old and I probably won't upgrade it unless it is a wash (sell it for $400 and buy an upgraded body for $400).

I had the 60D before my mkiii... and it the sensor is fine... but damn it is grainy in comparison.  I edit some of her images and I have to push the grain reduction beyond where I normally like to. 

It is excellent in good lighting... it is adequate in low light.  No surprise there.  I'm not fond of the touchscreen because I rarely use it, but it is fine.  My daughter likes it and it is really light to carry. 

We were at the zoo today and my 5d mkiii plus 70-200 mkii were a pain in the ass to carry when I wasn't taking photos.  When I was taking photos... I could have cared less.  I longed for the sl1 and a 70-200 f/4 combo...

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