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It's my understanding that your card's speed won't affect the maximum burst as that's a function of the buffer in the camera. So whether you have a slow card or a fast card, the camera should be able to do the 16 RAW (or whatever the advertised limit is) by filling up the buffer.

Where the benefit of a faster card comes into play is the recovery time once that buffer is filled. The faster the camera can write those files to the card and empty its buffer, the sooner you'll be able to shoot another burst. You don't even have to fill the whole buffer for this to apply. For example, you might shoot a five-shot burst, and then need to shoot a 16-shot burst a second later. With a slower card, those first five shots might not have been moved from the buffer to the card in time to accommodate your next burst.

If I anticipate using the burst mode a lot, I'd upgrade the card to the fastest I could get. If not, I'd be happy with the card you have. Of course, keep in mind that I'm not an expert and you're getting what you pay for with my input. :)

Lenses / Re: This is what happens when you buy a Canon lens in China :))
« on: August 29, 2013, 12:24:48 AM »
Look at the DR on that bag!

Seriously. When is Canon going to wake up? Canon bags are only slightly bigger this year, but it's the same old logo and pattern. Even Sony has superior bags. Of course, I think Nikon just licenses their bags from Sony and prints their logo over the top...


EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 70d RAW Samples
« on: August 28, 2013, 06:11:31 PM »

Speaking about fast - how fast is the new dual pixel AF on the 70D?

For people like me, with zero interest in video, the Canon priorities are disappointing. I could not care less about dual pixel AF. LV AF works well enough for me when I need it, and I rarely do.

BTW, there is no principal difference between trying to "remove noise" and trying to sharpen a soft image - it is all loss of high-frequency detail.

About speed, I guess it all depends on your needs. I use the articulating screen quite often on my camera so I can get good angles of my kids without having to constantly drop to my belly (still can't run alongside their bikes or next to them at the beach from my belly yet :) ). Live view AF on something like the G12, Rebel series or 60D just can't keep up with my "subjects" in those situations.

So for you, it's ho-hum (and rightly so, if you don't use it), while for me, it's a really big deal. The videos I've seen so far demonstrating the 70D's live view AF are pretty impressive in this respect. Bummer for you that, if the next round focuses on ISO noise successfully, you've had to wait for another sensor generation. I feel a little guilty getting to enjoy the AF advancements while you wait. ;)

Agreed about noise and sharpening. I just don't have a tool* that will take a badly missed focus and bring it "back into focus", whereas if I have a noisy image, I have some remedy (albeit not perfect).

Anyway, here's hoping the next generation of sensors has some revolutionary ISO-noise-reducing tech!

*Well, I guess there's the Lightfield camera, or whatever, but getting that technology into a capable DSLR probably ain't gonna happen any time soon. Canon should have a new sensor before then...right?  :o

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 70d RAW Samples
« on: August 28, 2013, 05:58:36 PM »

The biggest flaw of the 7D.

I just can't get excited about 1.6x "upgrades". If people want improved noise and DR, go full frame. It's there, within reach.

Unless you need extra reach. ;)

Landscape / Re: Decaying Nature close up...
« on: August 28, 2013, 05:57:13 PM »
@Ivan: As a first pass, I tend to agree with others that the images were kinda "blah", like I was looking for the punchline. Then, as I got to looking at the detail of them, it reminded me of times I've been in the deep woods hunting elk and notice things that later in photos just don't look that interesting but still capture the memory. It makes sense that these pictures for you are more documentary and less about images with a "wow" factor. I appreciate that from my own experience.

For example, in the first image, I notice the new life growing up through the dead wood. This image captures the memory (if that's what caught your eye). The second image shows an interesting repeating pattern that would be uncommon and something to catch the eye and want to remember. The last image I actually like aesthetically because it shows a brilliant contrast between the gray, weathered exterior and the rich rust/brown interior of the decaying log. Cool.

Astute point about often benefiting more from advice about a "bad" photo than from praise of a "good" photo. I might just learn more by posting some of my "bad" photos...

@VerySimpleJason: Great idea! What an excellent way to take otherwise ordinary (looking) photos and create art. Maybe I can resurrect some of my own "blah" snapshots. :)

@Sporgon: Brilliant observation. I'll bet in less flat light that these same images would have more impact (although I understand that "impact" is not the OP's intention). Add some depth with more angular light, and these photos would probably shed most of the "blah" initial impression.

@anybody: This thread made me think about interest and closeness. I often hear people say, "If your photos aren't interesting, get closer." (If someone famous said that, forgive my ignorance of the source. :) ) It occurs to me that what makes this true so often (and maybe the primary draw into the world of close-ups and macro photography) is that we walk around every day with most everything at arm's or leg's length (or further). Go in close, and ordinary, everyday things suddenly become interesting. Why? For me, it's because I see things (textures, shapes, colors) that I may have had no idea were even there.

Anyway, fun stuff...and interesting thread (at least to me).

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 70d RAW Samples
« on: August 28, 2013, 12:22:11 PM »
First, let me just say that I sympathize with everyone who wants as much high ISO performance as they can get. Low noise in low light is important to a lot of us. At the same time, I'm a bit surprised at the sour responses to "not that much of an improvement" in the 70D's noise performance.

Here's the way I see it (and it's just my opinion):

  • Canon focused on AF performance over noise performance in the last round of sensor development. It was a HUGE improvement and arguably revolutionary. The new sensor spanks competitors for live view AF performance and is a welcome and truly significant advancement for me.
  • People have complained that this amazing new sensor tech is only good for video enthusiasts. What about mirrorless? Slap a Dual Pixel AF sensor in the EOS M, and suddenly it's highly competitive in that segment. Add a fast and quality EVF, and people will be drooling (or, based on responses I'm replying to, maybe they'll just complain about noise performance).
  • While developing Dual Pixel AF, Canon managed to increase resolution by 2MP while splitting each pixel into two photodiodes while still managing to improve ISO range by a half or maybe even full stop. That seems pretty cool to me.
  • I would expect Canon will be able to now shift their development focus to noise performance. Based on Canon's apparent success in AF performance when focusing on AF performance, I'm excited to see what will be created when the focus is on noise performance.
  • I'm sure I'm not the only one that was pleasantly surprised that the 70D packs a lot of features for its segment. It has 7FPS with a decent buffer? Inherits the 19-point all-cross-type AF system? This is getting close to 7D (APS-C flagship, for now) territory. Plus WiFi? Plus articulating touch screen? Plus AFMA? Plus pleasantly reasonable launch price? All this on top of what looks to be excellent live view AF performance. Sure, they've held back other features to define its class, but it seems to be an all-around great enthusiast DSLR.

I'm sure there are plenty of people who think that Canon focused on AF simply because they're out of ideas for reducing noise or don't care about noise performance. I personally doubt it. Yes, they've had to try to please the noise(y) people with JPEG noise reduction improvements (e.g. 700D, SL1) while focusing on AF development, and those "improvements" don't mean anything to people shooting RAW, but perhaps Canon is simply focusing on one thing at a time and doing that one thing very well. Maybe I'm just easily pleased.

One last thought: Noise performance is important. We always want as high of image quality as possible, especially for a truly fantastic shot. Thankfully, we have pretty effective noise reduction tools available in post processing. So far, I haven't seen any similar tools for correcting missed focus nearly as well (sharpening might help a little for softness, but doesn't cut it for a truly missed focus), and I don't expect to any time soon. I'd much rather get a fantastic shot because my AF was fast and accurate and then have to apply a little noise reduction than to have another stop better ISO performance and have to throw out a shot because the AF couldn't keep up.

As always, I'm only N=1. Other opinions will certainly (and rightfully) vary. Just wanted to articulate a little bit about why I'm pleased with the latest round of sensors from Canon and optimistic about the next round.


Most excellent.

The 70D looks like it will be just what I am looking for. I was going to go for the 60D about a year ago, but I figured I'd wait to see if they could do anything with Live View AF and/or high ISO noise.

So far, the Live View AF seems to be miles ahead and well worth the wait. The ISO isn't what I hoped it would be, but honestly, it was far less of a deal than AF speed, and it will still be a huge leap from my G12.

Thanks, also, for sharing the RAW file of the high ISO image you took. The color noise is pretty nasty at ISO 6400 with noise reduction turned off, but Lightroom handles it brilliantly, in my opinion:

No Noise Reduction (100% Crop)

Noise Reduction On (Luminance 71, Color 62)

Macro / Re: Denizens of the Forest Floor
« on: August 27, 2013, 02:23:09 AM »
First one looks like some kind of cousin to the Elven Cup, although not identical. Beautiful nevertheless. Not sure what the second ones are, but its an excellent shot regardless!

Thanks for the compliments! I'm nowhere close to a pro, but my little G12 holds its own pretty well for a point-and-shoot (at least for stationary subjects :) ).

Macro / Re: Denizens of the Forest Floor
« on: August 26, 2013, 10:46:00 PM »
Huh...found another. Didn't realize there was so much fungi on that trip...

Name: Was going to call it Digic 7, but I settled for Louis  :-X
Edible: No idea (I didn't try it).
Location: Lake Mary Trail (Big Cottonwood Canyon), Utah
Equipment: Canon G12 :)

Lake Mary Mushroom

Macro / Re: Denizens of the Forest Floor
« on: August 26, 2013, 10:40:09 PM »
Looks like I had one other fungus pic from that Lake Mary camp-out:

Name: No idea...
Edible: No idea (I didn't try it).
Location: Lake Mary Trail (Big Cottonwood Canyon), Utah
Equipment: Canon G12 :)

Lake Mary Fungus 2

Macro / Re: Denizens of the Forest Floor
« on: August 26, 2013, 08:43:08 PM »
Sometimes you find similar fungi in the 'urban jungle'.  This one reminded me of Epcot.

"It's a Small World"

EOS 7D, EF 100mm f/2.8L Macro IS USM, 1/160 s, f/11, ISO 640

LOL...With your best Zoolander voice: "What is this? A center Disney World for ants?"

Macro / Re: Denizens of the Forest Floor
« on: August 26, 2013, 08:35:37 PM »
Fun thread. Here are a couple snaps from recent camping/vacations (JPEG from camera*):

Name: No idea...
Edible: No idea (I didn't try it).
Location: Lake Mary Trail (Big Cottonwood Canyon), Utah
Equipment: Canon G12 :)

Lake Mary Fungus

Name: No idea...
Edible: No idea (I didn't try it).
Location: Fern Canyon (Prairie Creek Redwoods State Park) Humboldt County, California
Equipment: Canon G12 :)

Mushrooms On Dead-Fall Redwood

*While the above photos are JPEG, I just installed Lightroom 5 last weekend to start processing RAW (been shooting mostly JPEG up to now). Love it so far...

Macro / Re: Denizens of the Forest Floor
« on: August 26, 2013, 08:06:07 PM »

"Fungal Love"

On Flickr

LOL...Great title (and image). Now I've got the Steve Miller Band stuck in my head... :)

Pricewatch Deals / Re: Adobe Lightroom 5 $99 Shipped
« on: August 12, 2013, 08:15:04 PM »
Thanks for the heads-up (just ordered my copy). I've been wanting to try Lightroom after seeing some impressive tutorials on YouTube. At this price, it's about $38 cheaper than the nearest competitor I could find.

One caveat is that it's out of stock, so it's a back-order purchase. That doesn't bother me, though -- I'm happy to lock-in a good price, and I've got time...

Lenses / Re: Gear Advice foe and awesome Greece trip
« on: August 02, 2013, 07:24:33 PM »
Just to add to my previous post, I carry a laptop bag nearly everywhere I go (work related). It contains not only the laptop, with sensitive information, but other items I really don't want falling into the wrong hands. My strategy, if I absolutely must put it down, is to make sure it's in contact with part of my body. For example, when seated at a restaurant booth, I might put it on the floor leaning against my leg at enough of an angle that I always feel its pressure. If someone tried to swipe it, I'd feel it depart.

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