Looks like the demand for Canon mirrorless system is not that great in US
Agreed. If and when Canon sees enough demand here, a worthy mirrorless body will be introduced. As long as Canon keeps selling DSLRs, there's not much reason to change course, forum rantings notwithstanding.
So canon are holding off until theres one good enough for the yanks? It's that kind of self-awareness that makes America friends all over the world.
Wow...okay. Didn't mean to make anyone angry or offend them.
Tinky, I generally enjoy reading your thoughtful posts, so the sarcastic jab at "yanks" and insulting their image throughout the world took me a bit by surprise. If it was meant in good spirit, an emoticon next time would help.
I'll try not to take it personally and chalk it up to disappointment in the M launch news. I'll also try not to judge your character and that of your fellow citizens by a single forum post, too.
A few things (feel free to call it defensive, damage control, whatever...
1. Not sure when all of North America became "yanks", but unless things drastically changed overnight, it includes Canada and Mexico. I guess that makes all three countries' populations arrogant, too, for not demanding mirrorless cameras?
2. The last time I was in the UK, I couldn't find a decent root beer or a jar of peanut butter (over a few ounces) to save my life. I'm guessing it's because...there simply isn't a demand for it. Does that make the British arrogant and hamper their international appeal as potential friends? Of course not...
3. I think the "making friends all over the world" (or difficulty thereof) has a LOT more to do with the geopolitical policies of our respective governments (okay, and perhaps some unfortunate, stereotypical tourists) and not about the attitudes of the citizenry, which consists of a broad spectrum of opinions, attitudes and even cultures. I would expect that the British were still generally a delightful people in the grand old days of the British Empire, despite their government dominating much of the world.
4. Yuichi Ishizuka, president and COO, Canon U.S.A., Inc appears to be Japanese. Is he
an arrogant American for choosing not to bring the M3 to the North American market? Was it because he thinks Americans
are arrogant that he chose not to bring the M3 to the North American market. Does a business even care about arrogance of its customers? Nope. It's about market demand -- and that is entirely what my comment was about.
I think it was my choice of adjective (worthy) that caused the heartburn. My bad -- should have used "appealing" or "impressive" or something. Based on your comment, it sounds like it came across as me saying, "The M3 might be good enough for the rest of the world, but it's not good enough for us, and the rest of the world just doesn't know any better." If I had known that's how it would be taken, I would have used different language. My sincere apologies.
Dare I try again?
There isn't enough demand in North America, in Canon management's opinion, to justify launching a mirrorless body here ("here" being North America
). This market, for whatever reason, prefers its DLSRs, and it would likely take a truly compelling mirrorless body to change that.
It appears to me that Canon is willing to let other brands spend the money and take the risks to try to win over DSLR users to the mirrorless concept, especially after its failure with the M1. If/when that happens in North America, Canon will re-enter the market, and when it does, it will need a compelling, impressive camera -- worthy (gasp) of its competition -- to succeed.
Hopefully that was a bit better communicated. We okay now?
Now for a baseless personal theory on the difficulty of winning DSLR users over to mirrorless in the North American market: It might be that the average consumer looking to get something more capable than their iPhone or Powershot (which I believe is the primary market for the M) might have a hard time seeing enough difference (especially because of physical appearance) between a mirrorless body and an advanced point-and-shoot.
My hunch is that, whether justified or not, consumers here (North America) see a DSLR as a "serious" camera and see mirrorless as a compromised stepping stone to what they really want (or think they want). They might be thinking, "Why use this little thing that looks like my friend's G Series, but with interchangeable lenses? If I'm going to have to mess with lenses, I might as well go for it and get a DSLR." Not saying that's what I think or if it's right or wrong...just a thought.
I can't tell you how many times people see my modest DSLR and say, "Wow -- that's a big camera. You must know what you're doing." If that same person goes to buy a camera with that perception, they're going to choose the Rebel, not the M. After all, it's a big, cool camera that's sure to produce better images and that now others will be impressed by, too. It doesn't matter how capable a mirrorless body is, it won't sell well in this market if a DSLR in the same price tier exists -- until this idea of "bigger is better" or "bigger is pro" is successfully countered. I think that'll be awhile in North America, and apparently, so does Canon, USA.
Now you know why my kids often refer to me as "the old windbag."