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Austin, Texas :)

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D750 to be Canon 5D3 competitor?
« on: September 08, 2014, 04:41:11 PM »
How about we all pitch in a few bucks/dollars/quid and buy dilbert a D800 for Christmas? Maybe he will finally stop complaining then, because I can't figure out why someone so unhappy with Canon and envious of Nikon wouldn't just switch and STFU :)

I'm 100% serious about this. I will pitch in the first $10 USD for dilbert's D800 fund. We just need 299 more people to pledge $10 USD to this altruistic cause. With the power of the internet, surely we can accomplish this!

-1.  Subsidies increase the target behavior while taxes cause the opposite effect.  What you want to do is charge him for each such post.

I was about to post Fred Miranda's DR test and start talking about how awful Canon sensors are. I don't actually believe in the "sensor gap", but I'll certainly take a free D800 to stop talking like there is a sensor gap  ;D

You don't complain nearly enough to warrant hush money :)

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D750 to be Canon 5D3 competitor?
« on: September 08, 2014, 01:38:58 PM »
How about we all pitch in a few bucks/dollars/quid and buy dilbert a D800 for Christmas? Maybe he will finally stop complaining then, because I can't figure out why someone so unhappy with Canon and envious of Nikon wouldn't just switch and STFU :)

If you don't like his posts, then don't read them.

There, I just saved you $10.   ;D

Sorry, but I'm committed to the cause :) I'm in for $10 and that's my final answer ;D

Besides, if we collectively pulled this off and documented the entire process on the internet, it would be f'n hysterical. We could even have neuro autograph the box before shipping it off to dilbert.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D750 to be Canon 5D3 competitor?
« on: September 08, 2014, 01:15:55 PM »
How about we all pitch in a few bucks/dollars/quid and buy dilbert a D800 for Christmas? Maybe he will finally stop complaining then, because I can't figure out why someone so unhappy with Canon and envious of Nikon wouldn't just switch and STFU :)

I'm 100% serious about this. I will pitch in the first $10 USD for dilbert's D800 fund. We just need 299 more people to pledge $10 USD to this altruistic cause. With the power of the internet, surely we can accomplish this!

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D750 to be Canon 5D3 competitor?
« on: September 07, 2014, 07:12:56 PM »
I haven't seen anyone addressing the HUGE problem that Canon Cameras underexpose  because the meter isn't always linked to the focus point. I love my Mark III. But, I would love it even more if it would ALWAYS METER FROM THE SELECTED FOCUS POINT. Canon needs to fix the meter link before they worry about dynamic range and that would solve a world of problems including dynamic range for some shots.

True dat. I love everything about my 5D3 except the metering. For some reason, the metering on my old 5D classic seemed better suited for my usage than the 5D3. I'm sure for other uses the 5D3's metering is an improvement over the 5D classic and Mark II, but for me the exposures are usually on the dark side.

At one time I wished for a larger buffer, but memory cards have become so much faster in the last 2.5 years that this isn't an issue for me anymore :)

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D750 to be Canon 5D3 competitor?
« on: September 07, 2014, 04:46:32 PM »


Aye, I think this is Nikon's biggest problem. They have phenomenal technology to work with...they just aren't doing the market research necessary to package it up into a product that would sell like hotcakes year after year. Kind of sad...as if they DID, then could really put pressure on Canon to actually move their corporate ass on the sensor IQ front. Maybe the combined forces of Nikon, Sony, Pentax, and the others that are now using Exmors will put that pressure on.

The sad truth is that companies with great ideas and talented employees are often run by idiotic management teams. Reminds me of the demise of AMC (American Motors Corporation). After it went bankrupt and Chrysler bought them out, Chrysler execs were shocked at the caliber of engineering talent that went to waste for so many years. AMC developed the world's first full-time all-wheel drive system. Not Subaru :) This was made possible by an AMC-pioneered viscous center differential, which is used in just about every AWD road car and WRC Rally car today. AMC invented the modern SUV with the Cherokee and Wagoneer. AMC also invented the original military-grade H1 Hummer.

All that, and AMC still went out of business. Hopefully Nikon management will get it's act together, because someone has to continue applying pressure on Canon. As Canon users, we need Nikon to sell lots of cameras just as much as Nikon users do.   

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D750 to be Canon 5D3 competitor?
« on: September 07, 2014, 04:35:59 PM »
In re-reading my post, I don't want it to be perceived as a criticism of Nikon bodies, so please allow me to clarify :). IMHO, the D750 (if and when it comes out), D800, and D810 - when looked at individually - are very impressive tools in their own right. For some people, they're better tools for their needs than Canon gear.

When viewed as a whole, however, praising Nikon as an innovative company for continually introducing bodies more frequently than Canon is silly. The D800 was hardly outdated when Nikon revamped it as the D810. Likewise, the rumored D750 wasn't created to address a market segment that didn't previously exist. Both products were created in response to Nikon neglecting the core needs of the original D700 user base.

That's anything but innovative. It reflects a product that was too niche (D800) that required a supporting cast of two additional bodies (D750, D810) in order to meet Nikon's sales objectives in the $2,500 - $3,500 DSLR segment. 

 

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D750 to be Canon 5D3 competitor?
« on: September 07, 2014, 04:05:18 PM »
But that´s why the 5D MK3 was not a preemptive strike against todays D750. :)

Maybe for you it wasn't, but for many others it was. Like I said, if the D750 was released two years ago (regardless of whether or not it had 4K video), and Canon soldiered on with junk AF and FPS in the 5D line, I'd be shooting Nikon right now.

Choice is great for consumers. As a Canon shooter, I love that Nikon is putting the pressure on Canon. From a business perspective, however, Nikon would essentially have three different bodies (D750, D800, D810) filling the same slot in the market as the 5D3. Praising Nikon for failing to immediately address the needs of D700 users, then releasing two subsequent models (D750, D810) to finally give their users what they want after a two year delay, is preposterous.

That's not innovation. That's an epic failure in market research, R&D resources, and overall business management. Go Nikon ;D

Sony Exmor sensors are innovative. The wrappers Nikon chooses to put them in by retroactively reacting to market demands aren't. 

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D750 to be Canon 5D3 competitor?
« on: September 07, 2014, 03:48:37 PM »

But two years later, I'd say that the 5DIII now looks outdated vs the D810, which is definitely more future-proof.

I agree 100%, but like you said, it's been two years :) A newer product better be more future-proof than an older product, regardless of the brand.

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Just to be clear, I am only disappointed with the 5D III for landscapes and low ISO work.

Here's a link to a guy who's a hot topic on 500px at the moment, that CR members may enjoy seeing. Does he shoot D800 ? Does he shoot high ISO ?

http://500px.com/JakeOlsonStudios

The only noise comes from people complimenting his work.


When I see images like that, I think "Wow, that's one talented MFer."

"I wonder what gear he shoots with" is the last thing on my mind. I suppose that makes me a freak :o

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D750 to be Canon 5D3 competitor?
« on: September 07, 2014, 03:15:49 PM »

We can only hope that Canon will be responding in some way to the D750.

The way I see it, Canon preemptively "responded" to the rumored D750 two years ago by releasing a great all-rounder in the 5D3.

The D750's rumored specs and price point make it extremely appealing. However, releasing a lower megapixel, higher FPS body only two years after launching the D800 reflects a epic failure on Nikon's market research department, IMHO. The bulk of D700 users didn't want a resolution monster with a slower frame rate, but that's exactly what they got with the D800. Perhaps if Nikon gave D700 users what they really wanted, they wouldn't have had to make the D800 a more versatile all-around (by creating the D810) in addition to launching another lower resolution, high FPS body within just two years of releasing the D800.

IMHO, the D750 is the camera Nikon should have released two years ago to replace the D700. If they did that, and if Canon didn't dramatically improve the AF and FPS of the 5D line, I would have switched to Nikon two years ago and never looked back. Fortunately, Canon delivered the perfect camera for my needs (5D3), while Nikon continues to lead the way in the highly lucrative landscape segment ;D

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The Lone Isle



My goodness, that is one spectacular hunk of rock. Looks like it's about to tip over. Where was this image taken?

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This is far from a great shot, but I think the Samsung Galaxy S3 handled the contrast rather well. The shadow noise is terrible, but who cares. I was somewhat distracted from having to drive, so busting out the ND grad filter was out of the question :o As the saying goes, the best camera is the one that you have with you ;D


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(People here seem to have missed the fact that I'm only complaining about the 5D III's low ISO performance and noise characteristics. The amount of misrepresentation of my position on this whole subject is staggering, but I guess that's how people react when someone tries to reveal any amount of truth about the REAL quality of Canon sensors at low ISO. Instead of acceptance, denial. Instead of discussion, it's outright hostility or a bunch of crude jokes. Canon sensors suck balls at low ISO, compared to the norm today...it's just the simple truth of the matter. It may not affect everyone's work, but it doesn't change the facts.)

I agree that the D810 has closed the gap...but Nikon does not have anything that compares to the 600 f/4 L II, which is my single largest photography investment for birds/wildlife. The A7r would be the best option. That's still $2300...but a better deal than the D810. If I do buy something....that'll probably be it. I just can't put $5300+ into a D810 and 14-24...not with all my astrophotography needs.

When brand loyalty runs deep, facts are never enough to sway people's opinions :)

SoNikon sensors are better than Canon's current offerings at low ISO. Period. End of story. I see no need to be in denial over it. If I were in your situation, the Sony A7 or A7R would be intriguing options to consider. Does it suck that you'd have to buy another body outside the Canon system to fulfill all your shooting needs? Of course, but it is what it is, and trying to convince people that don't want to be convinced is a losing proposition.

If I had more product photography gigs, where I could benefit from the finer tonal gradations that Exmor sensors offer, I'd buy an A7 in a heartbeat. However, I just don't have enough of those types of gigs to warrant the expense, so I'll make do with and be happy with my 5D3 :)

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D810: $3300
14-24mm: $2000

'Just switching' to Nikon with a single body and lens is no cheap endeavor. Especially if the primary purpose is just for one type of photography. Throw in various necessary accessories, the price gets up to nearly $6000.

It is also possible that Canon meets the vast majority of your needs for everything but that one or two types of photography.

You CAN be discontent and still stuck with a system that isn't delivering what you need, want, and are unwilling to dump money into an alternative/additional brand for.

Wouldn't selling that 5D3 and 16-35 help offset the cost of a D810 and 14-24 quite a bit :)? The D810 has substantially closed up the all-around versatility gap between the D800 and 5D3, so that seems like a viable option. There's also the Sony A7 option that dtaylor mentioned. Being able to use Canon glass on a Sonikon sensor/body seems like a winner to me if you need better DR for landscapes. Then if Canon ever makes a sensor with DR suitable for your needs, you can just sell the A7 which will have brought you years of DR superiority without ever having to change systems.

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