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EOS Bodies / Re: When will Canon Meet The Market Demand?

« on: February 08, 2012, 11:38:09 AM »

I'll give Canon until the end of the month to announce the 5DIII. If it doesn't, I'm putting in a pre-order for a D800 and putting 10 years worth of Canon gear up on ebay.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 40MP Canon that's not the 5D3?

« on: February 08, 2012, 11:35:00 AM »

If there's any truth to the rumors that the 5DIII will remain in the 21-22 mp range, this makes a lot of sense. The question is whether or not a 40 mp body will offer the balance of resolution and AF of the D800, and the bigger question is price.

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EOS Bodies / Re: How does Canon respond to the D800?

« on: February 07, 2012, 09:45:31 PM »

Regardless of all the blah, blah, go look at the published 30 MB jpegs from the D800E. The proof is in the pudding. If Canon doesn't respond by April they have just lost another customer. My 1DSIII can't hold a candle to even the jpegs out of the D800E. I've shot Canons 35s all my adult life, but I will soon be gone to Nikon.

I'm in the same boat. I've been looking to upgrade my 1DsIII, and the 1Dx doesn't suite my needs. During the "rumor" stage, the D800 seemed like a nice upgrade to my current body, and real world specs and sample images are living up to the hype. I'll wait to see how Canon specs out the 5DIII before making a final decision. I've researched how much I can sell my Canon gear for on ebay, and the money I'll have to spend to replicate my setup with equivalent Nikon glass and the D800 is very palatable.

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EOS Bodies / Re: How does Canon respond to the D800?

« on: February 07, 2012, 09:38:50 PM »

I don't know how Canon can respond to this camera without making a huge leap in in-camera IQ improvement.
Read and see here http://cliffmautner.typepad.com/  - the guy states NO Flash, no exposure compensation... Well, if the next gen DSLR are like this then ... my goodness ! Seems that there is a lot of automatic adjustments the D800 does to improve/compensate for any high ISO noise. Yes, there will be noise but heck, the 5D2 crowd has been putting up with it quite well up till now.
Let's just hope Canon as a big camera manufacturer does not disappoint with the bells and whistles - there appears to be a lot more to digital imaging nowadays than just MP, AF points and noise management. I hope there are DIGIC5 applications in camera that will at least match the D800's.

Wow. Those D800 samples have a very 5D-like look to them. I wonder how much post processing was done, but the color, contrast, and DR is stunning!

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EOS Bodies / Re: How does Canon respond to the D800?

« on: February 07, 2012, 08:16:40 PM »

This is probably why the D800 is no better ISO capabilities as the 5d2 albeit it's 15 MP more. 

I'm probably the only person on here that's actually impressed by this. The 5DII is a stunning performer in the ISO department. The fact that the D800 can offer similar ISO performance despite having 15 extra megapixels is no small feat. The D700 and 5DII were similar ISO wise, so I tip my hat to Nikon for tripling the resolution from 12 to 36 megapixels without increasing noise.

Honestly, I'd be happy with a mere 1 stop ISO improvement in the 5DIII compared to the 5DII, and this is coming from someone who shoots in low light all the time That's just a testament to how good the 5DII already is in low light.   

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: D800 is finally here

« on: February 07, 2012, 12:28:35 AM »

How many people out there really need more than 20 megapixels of resolution?

Given the popularity of the 5D2, I'd say a lot of people need 20-plus megapixels. Or at least they think they do

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: D800 is finally here

« on: February 06, 2012, 11:54:05 PM »

I wonder what the Nikon "12MP is enough" crowd would be saying now. 

On the Nikon forums, the "12 mp is enough" crowd is actually pretty pissed about the 36 mp sensor. If the 5D3 ends up being a baby 1Dx, they'll probably switch to Canon

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: D800 is finally here

« on: February 06, 2012, 11:48:05 PM »

I'm a little confused about the differences between this and the D700... The main point is the 36mp sensor. Don't both have 51 point AF, 15 cross (Crusader, ha) types, ISO 100-6400, Weather sealing?

The rest honestly sounds like marketing speak. "Better" this and "improved" that. Don't get me wrong 36mp is pretty incredible (if unnecessary), but I don't find the rest all that impressive.

Wow, you must have some pretty high standards. I take it Canon's going to have to come out with one heck of a 5D3 to impress you

What I really like about the D800 is that it retains or slightly improves upon the virtues of the D700 (AF, FPS, weather sealing, etc.) while addressing its weak point (resolution). For my shooting needs, I dreamed of a camera that was a cross between a 5D2 and a D700. Nikon has delivered just that with the D800 while adding another 15 megapixels.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: D800 is finally here

« on: February 06, 2012, 11:19:41 PM »

DPreview has it:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/02/07/Nikon_D800_D800E_launch

Holy f'n $hit.

- 36 mp
- 51-point AF
- 15 cross-type points
- 9 cross-type points sensitive to f/8
- 4 to 6 FPS
- Dual card slots
- Weather sealing

And all this for $2,995? Good grief.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: D800 is finally here

« on: February 06, 2012, 11:05:33 PM »

Now it's Canon's turn to make an announcement. Please give us a low light shooting (100-12,800 or 100-51,200 native ISO), moderate FPS (5-6 FPS), with the 1D-X's 61-pt AF system (or something "similar"...maybe with fewer pts). For the quoted asking price of $2700 USD. Make us happy!! (or some of us)

Honestly, I wouldn't mind a camera like that, either, but if the 5D3 specs end up being similar to your wish list, Canon better have another high megapixel body up its sleeve that can compete with the D800. I see the D800 as a nice upgrade over my 1Ds3, as it has similar AF and FPS but with way more megapixels. A pop-up flash to control off-camera strobes is a nice perk as well. 

Now that Nikon has showed its hand, the 5D3 will have to be a substantial upgrade in the ISO department or the megapixel department compared to the 5D2. Merely upgrading to a 9-cross-type AF system while maintaining similar resolution, as some people have suggested, just isn't going to cut it. 

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: D800 is finally here

« on: February 06, 2012, 10:03:48 PM »

You are reading a Google Translation from Portugese which is translated from Japanese.  Its a wonder you can make out anything at all.

No kidding. I'm actually surprised how coherent most of the release was. I suppose it would make more sense to wait a couple of days for the English release, but what fun would that be?

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: D800 is finally here

« on: February 06, 2012, 09:48:41 PM »

I don't quite understand this part either, but something must have been lost in translation:

The focus system uses 15 sensors of the type AF Crusaders for accuracy and the system also emphasizes human faces even when the viewfinder is used.

Does anyone have any idea what an "AF Crusader" is ?

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Third Party Manufacturers / D800 is finally here

« on: February 06, 2012, 09:35:07 PM »

I know lots of Canon fans were in denial of a 36 megapixel D800, but it looks like most of the rumored specs were 100% spot on. This is a Brazilian release translated to English, so it does read a little funny, but you can make out the specs nonetheless.

http://nikonrumors.com/2012/02/06/nikon-d800-press-release.aspx/#more-32762

Come on Canon, I really don't want to switch, so please announce a 5D3 that can go head-to-head with this beastly Nikon.

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EOS Bodies / Re: A guy used 1DX yesterday in Germany!!

« on: February 04, 2012, 02:38:04 PM »

To be sure, it wasn't the camera I was looking for either. I think combining the 1D line was a huge mistake. I mean, isn't one of the main reasons they kept the camera at 18MP was to be able to shoot so quickly? Wouldn't a lot of studio photographers been a lot happier if they could have shot at half the speed but with much bigger images?

I hate it when somebody tells me "you don't need anything more than 18MP." I have heard that a lot. How do they know what I need? When working with a model, I certainly need 27MP much more than double digit frames per second. I was kind of hoping the new 1D would rival medium format. When I'm shooting sports I don't want full frame. It's an impressive camera, but I really think they only people it's perfect for would be like National Geographic photographers and certain kinds of sports on smaller fields/courts. It's just the wrong camera for me and a lot of others, as well, even though it has a lot of really sexy features.

While I'm painfully aware of all the MP addicts that equate overall image quality to MP count, there are certainly situations where the resolution is a necessity, not a "hey, I can't crop with only only 'x' megapixels" affair. My shooting needs prioritize dynamic range and high ISO performance over ultimate resolution, but that doesn't mean resolution isn't important. For instance, there are instances where I'll shoot shoot material for a brochure or editorial work, and later on down the road, the client wants to re-use some of those images for posters or banners at trade shows or other promotional material.

Additionally, I'm not sure where the 300 dpi standard comes from, but even in a small image, say 3x5, print much better at 450- or 600 dpi vs. 300. Perhaps it has something to do with the poor paper, ink, and print quality my editorial clients use, but I can easily spot the difference between shots taken by my 5DI and 1DsIII when printed at the same size in the same magazine.

In that regard, the 1Dx is an impressive machine, but I see it more as a 1DV than a 1DsIV. I really hope Canon has a high-res body in the works, because I'm not looking forward to selling all my Canon gear for a D800 if it indeed will have a 36 mp sensor.

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EOS Bodies / Re: A guy used 1DX yesterday in Germany!!

« on: February 04, 2012, 12:33:48 PM »

I hate to be a pragmatist in a room full of brand loyalists, but I couldn't care less about the f/8 issue. At $6,800, I have no interest in purchasing a 1Dx, so why should I care? I wonder how many people complaining about the f/8 issue, crying about the delay of the 1Dx's release, or whining about why Canon hasn't released any sample pics taken by the 1Dx are actual ready to plop down the cash for a 1Dx?

As a 1DsIII user, the 1Dx isn't the upgrade I was looking for. My next body will be a 5D3 or D800, so the specs of those two bodies are all that I care about. The 5D3 probably won't be released until after the 1Dx, so that's the only reason I care about when the latter hits the market.