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EOS Bodies / Re: If this is the best the D800 can do...
« on: March 01, 2012, 01:52:50 PM »
http://www.fotosidan.se/forum/showpost.php?p=1792662&postcount=1457

I don't understand the language, but I'm assuming D800 samples reduced to 1600px. If this is the best this camera can do at ISO 1600+, the 5D MkII has nothing to fear let alone the Mk III!


Looks good to me. Can't wait for UPS to deliver mine  :)

what is your first lens gonna be? the 14-24? do yourself a favour and get the little 50mm f1.4G too ;)


My first lens will be the 24-120, but I'm going to keep all my Canon glass and roll dual systems for a while. If I like the results from the D800, I'll follow that up with a 70-200 and a 16-35 or a 14-24, then sell off my Canon gear to complete the transition. If the D800 ends up being a complete POS, I'll order up a 5DIII and sell what few pieces of Nikon gear I will have acquired at that point.

Maybe it's wishful thinking, but with a native ISO range up to 25,600, I'm expected great improvements in low-light and DR from the 5DIII. Hell, maybe I'll pre-order it too and compare it side-by-side to the D800 for a couple of shoots, then decide which system to keep from there. I'd really like to test out a new body ASAP for some gigs I've got coming up. It's only money, right  :)?

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EOS Bodies / Re: If this is the best the D800 can do...
« on: February 29, 2012, 11:01:34 PM »
http://www.fotosidan.se/forum/showpost.php?p=1792662&postcount=1457

I don't understand the language, but I'm assuming D800 samples reduced to 1600px. If this is the best this camera can do at ISO 1600+, the 5D MkII has nothing to fear let alone the Mk III!


Looks good to me. Can't wait for UPS to deliver mine  :)

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EOS Bodies / Re: The (un)official I'm switching to Nikon thread
« on: February 29, 2012, 10:58:34 PM »
How about the (un)official "I've been following all the 5DIII rumors for years, pretending like I was going to buy one, but never really had the money to buy one, and just enjoyed talking trash online, so I'll stick with my Rebel," thread?


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Sports / Re: Cars cars cars (and some bikes)
« on: February 28, 2012, 07:20:56 PM »
Awesome work, Adrian! I'm getting hungry just looking at the food shots, and am quite envious that you got to shoot a McLaren.

Not all HDR,s have to look unreal , careful use of different exposures and layers as opposed to default HDR rendering can look goog.


I agree 100%. IMHO, layering in multiple exposures to extend the dynamic range of an image is a must in order to bridge the gap between what the camera sees and what the human eye sees. In other words, it should look so natural that people don't even know that it's HDR.

This isn't a particularly good image, but exposing for a dark car like this will often blow out the sky entirely. Furthermore, since the top of the quarter panels are white, they were blown out as well. Obviously, this isn't how my eye captured the image when looking through the viewfinder.



An easy fix was to layer in a second exposure that was properly exposed for the sky. An ND grad filter may have been used to enhance the effect, but I don't remember, as this shot was take five years ago.



This is far more representative of what the scene actually looked like. Technically, it's HDR, but it was done to make the image appear more natural, not like a cartoon. IMHO, overly processed HDR is a pathetic gimmick that's often used as a substitute for basic photographic skills, and it needs to go away  :) Some people can pull it off, but they are the exception to the rule.

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Sports / Re: Cars cars cars (and some bikes)
« on: February 28, 2012, 06:54:07 PM »
I hear you there man, Car phototography is a lot harder than people think, I dont do much of it and never have done it paid but it is very easy to tell the best from the rest. love your work.

Thanks for the kind words. I'm just trying to keep up with those that are better than me  :)

Like you said, there's a lot more involved with automotive photography than meets the eye, but that can be said for every form of photography. It's just a matter of learning the specifics of each discipline, and adapting accordingly. For instance, a good friend of mine used to shoot super high end product/catalog work for all the big Chicago ad agencies. After getting laid off, he decided to transition to automotive work. There were some fundamental mistakes in his early work, but after just a few gigs, he started producing some of the best damn work in the industry. Ultimately, an artist is an artist.

I'd like to think I can hang with him on the automotive stuff, but he absolutely whips my sorry butt when it comes to portraits and landscapes. Over the years, I've developed a deep respect for photographers that can excel in multiples fields within the photographic world. I'm in awe of those than can shoot fashion, sports, landscapes, and portraits at a very high caliber, not just one specific specialty.

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Sports / Re: Cars cars cars (and some bikes)
« on: February 28, 2012, 06:28:58 PM »
Went to Rally Sweden a couple of weeks back and caught Petter Solberg going wide. Used a Canon 40D with a Tamron 17-50 attached.

Nice! That's one hell of a first post! I love how the backlighting really brings out the definition of the snow.

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Sports / Re: Cars cars cars (and some bikes)
« on: February 28, 2012, 06:25:54 PM »
I think that when it comes to cars, going overboard on HDR, has it's time and place.  And it's so easy to want to push the photo to it's limits. 

Personally, I despise any HDR that looks overtly HDR. If I submitted a cartoonish HDR image to any of my clients, they'd call me back asking "WTF is that $hit?" and that would be the last time they ever hired me for an assignment. I couldn't blame them, either.  If I were in their shoes, I'd do the exact same thing.

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Sports / Re: Cars cars cars (and some bikes)
« on: February 28, 2012, 12:01:32 PM »
Nice pic! that has to be one of the best HDR car photo's i've seen, EVER. Usually HDR pics of cars make me want to be sick or at least have a siezure, but that is clean. what did you use to process it?

You mean to tell me that you don't like images that look like cartoons? What's wrong with you? Taking an all-around mediocre image, going all HDR crazy, and getting e-high-fives from your online cohorts is a rite of passage for any novice photog! It ranks right up there with shooting black and white images of your obese cat.

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EOS Bodies / Re: DPreview Nikon D800 D4 what the professionals think
« on: February 28, 2012, 11:57:02 AM »
So the link is for a bunch of pros who don't have any hands-on shooting time with either body merely speculating on how they will perform. You can get that kind of speculating right here on Canon Rumors :)

BTW, does anyone really care what pros think? There are some pros with highly impressive resumes right on this forum whose thoughts I greatly respect, but they seem to get flamed for expressing their opinions most of the time. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Do you think the 5D II will stay around
« on: February 28, 2012, 11:40:51 AM »
I suppose it's a possibility. Unless the noise and DR are substantially better in the MKIII vs. the MKII, I can see how the MKII would be more appealing - assuming a large price gap -  for landscape shooters who don't need the improved speed or AF. In a recent French interview, a Nikon rep stated that the D700 will continue to be sold alongside the D800, so perhaps Canon will adopt a similar strategy with the 5D line.

BTW, is "ss396" a reference to a Camaro, Chevelle, or Impala :)?

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: D800 high ISO noise samples
« on: February 24, 2012, 09:50:13 PM »
i dont think 5DX will stand...for 3500$ definitely not worth buying 5DX compared to D800. wht you guys think?.

There's no way to tell until the 5DIII is actually out in the field. Until then, it's all speculation.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Not a Canon vs. Nikon Thread
« on: February 24, 2012, 07:16:00 PM »
The 5DII and D700 were already great products. Canon and Nikon merely addressed the most glaring weakness of both bodies. Canon improved AF and speed in the 5DIII,  and Nikon improved the resolution in the D800. IMHO, it's as simple as that.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D3 may not have real 1DX AF
« on: February 23, 2012, 06:43:54 PM »
Depends on the situation.  The f/2.8 points (and f/4 points, to a lesser degree) are more accurate, but also slower.  So, AI Servo AF actually uses mostly f/5.6 sensor lines.

That's some pretty interesting info. Does that only apply to the 1D2/1Ds2, or all Canon bodies? The shooting scenarios I'm referring to are almost always in AI Servo (panning or freezing action of subject moving through frame), so it sound like the slower glass wouldn't hurt AF performance as much?

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D3 may not have real 1DX AF
« on: February 23, 2012, 06:28:52 PM »
Even my old 1D mk1 AF was fast and accurate. it just worked.

Precisely. It's easy to get hung up on specs, but ultimately all that matters is how well the AF works for a given user's shooting needs. The 1DMKII's AF is ancient by today's standards but it flat out works. Some have even called it legendary  :) Even if the 5DIII's AF isn't the exact same system as in the 1Dx, with 61 points it stands to be a substantial improvement over the 5DII. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D3 may not have real 1DX AF
« on: February 23, 2012, 06:02:16 PM »
Not sure how much of an issue this will be in real-world shooting situations. I'm all for having a ton of cross sensors. That said, with a 70-300L attached to my old 1DMKIIn, only the center AF point functions as a cross sensor, but it still tracks fast action like nobody's business. I'd rate it above the 7D.

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