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EOS Bodies / Re: Announcement Soon [CR3]
« on: February 18, 2012, 01:54:20 PM »
've been trying to add up how many people on this site are jumping to Nikon "if the 5DMIII/X..."


I doubt many people that say they're switching to Nikon will actually do it. Expanding upon that, I'd say less than 50 percent of the people on here that are contributing to the 5DIII hoopla will actually buy one for various reasons. Maybe the product won't be what they're expecting. Maybe it will exceed their expectations, but when push comes to shove, they'll find a better way to spend $3,000. That's why it's called "hype," after all :)

I've got a D800 on pre-order, but if Canon counters with a competitive 5DIII, I'll cancel it and stick with Canon. However, if I didn't make a living with my images, and photography was just something I did for fun, it wouldn't be worth the hassle of switching systems.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Announcement Soon [CR3]
« on: February 17, 2012, 09:21:34 PM »
I have a D800 on pre-order, so a February 28 announcement will give me plenty of time to cancel it if the 5DIII is up to snuff.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III/X Information [CR1]
« on: February 14, 2012, 09:18:46 AM »
I've done my share of D800 humping lately, but a 22 mp 5DIII with a 61-point AF system and 6.9 FPS would be one heck of a camera. Throw in one or two additional stops of DR and ISO over the 5DII, and this sucker will be irresistible. Do it, Canon :) My Canon glass gives me wood every time I use them, and I really don't want to switch systems.   

The interesting thing about a 22MP 5DIII is that once again the budget full frame is divided by two completely opposite camera models that essentially swapped places compared to the last generation. Nikon is now big MP game and a landscape/studio dream, canon is now fast fps game which should keep a lot of action/sports guys happy.

The funny part is that despite the role reversals, both the Canon and Nikon fan boys are still waving their Canon and Nikon flags. If you're a Nikon fan boy that loved the D700, and gladly sacrificed resolution for FPS and ISO, it would seem odd to embrace the D800, but they do anyways. If you're a Canon fan boy that went poo poo on speed in favor of resolution, it would seem odd to embrace a 22 mp 5DIII with vastly improved AF and FPS, but they will anyways.


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EOS Bodies / Re: When will Canon Meet The Market Demand?
« on: February 12, 2012, 05:42:10 PM »
Now, if I'll allow myself to wear the conspiracy hat for a moment I'd venture a theory that this reversal of philosophies between Canon and Nikon is arranged between the companies. A roughly equal number of people switching sides means people buying new lenses and accessories more than they would had they stayed put. A win-win situation.

I think you're onto something. Maybe it's a three-way conspiracy with ebay in on the action, too. Imagine all the money in seller's fees they stand to make :D

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Development of 5Dmk2
« on: February 11, 2012, 12:45:14 AM »
Back when the 5D Classic came out, people were so pleasantly stunned that Canon crammed a full-frame sensor into a body roughly the same size as a 20D, at less than 1/2 the price of a 1DsII, that no one dared complain about the AF system. Back then, if you wanted a full-frame sensor you had to pay $8,000 for a pro body. People are pretty spoiled these days and come to expect cameras like the 5D/5DII and D700/D800, but Canon pretty much invented the affordable, light-weight, full-frame camera. Plus, the AF system wasn't that bad by 2005 standards.

On a side note, anyone that shot Nikon back then was an idiot :) That said, it's nice to see how much the competition has stepped it up since then.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: D800 - Sample Photos
« on: February 08, 2012, 09:52:12 PM »
Soooooo...

where did all the Oh no current lenses cant resolve more than 20MP crowd go to?
looks to be resolving plenty fine to me. Nikon on are going to stuggle to keep up with demand on these for a year i think the waiting list is going to be Loooooong

When the 1DsII came out, people said: "16.7 MPs is too much, it's going to take up too much card space, the lenses can't keep up." Somehow the photographic world managed.

When the 1DsIII came out, people said: "21.1 MPs is too much, it's going to take up too much card space, the lenses can't keep up." Somehow the photographic world managed.

I have a hunch that history will repeat itself with the D800.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: D800 - Sample Photos
« on: February 08, 2012, 09:24:32 PM »
Pixel count aside, the dynamic range in these files, particularly the library shots, is stunning. The books in shadow are clearly visible, yet the light coming through the ceiling doesn't blow out the highlights.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Latest Canon disappoints wants me to switch over to Nikon.
« on: February 08, 2012, 07:34:10 PM »
2.8 glass works well for me  ;D ;D ;D

5DII, 400 f/2.8

If I shot scantily clad women in low light, I'd opt for f/2.8 glass, too :) Back in the days of color slides, I was scared to shoot with anything other than 100 speed film, so f/2.8 or faster glass was necessary, but it's a very nice luxury these days to crank up the ISO far beyond what anyone could have dreamed of 15 years ago.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Latest Canon disappoints wants me to switch over to Nikon.
« on: February 08, 2012, 03:34:11 PM »
So, 2.8 or below is useless for anything else than propping up your online ego? That's a bit harsh :) k.

Absolutely not, although I do see people spending a fortune on fast glass all the time, yet there seems to be of no benefit of that speed when looking at their images. When I'm on assignment, I can't tell you how often some hobbyist with a Rebel asks me why any working photog would should with a 24-105 instead of a 24-70. I guess to them f/2.8 is synonymous with pro gear, regardless of the shooting needs.

My statement was in response to Maui5150, who for some reason seemed puzzled that I don't own anything faster than f/4 glass. Perhaps he knows something about my own shooting needs that I don't?

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EOS Bodies / Re: Latest Canon disappoints wants me to switch over to Nikon.
« on: February 08, 2012, 03:18:23 PM »

I thought you had some fast glass.   Nothing below F/4???

What on earth would make you think that? I never made such a claim. If I needed to bulk up by internet street cred with f/2.8 glass, I'd buy it for the sole purpose of listing it in my sig. It just so turns out that with today's ISO capabilities and my shooting needs, f/4 glass is plenty fast.

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EOS Bodies / Re: When will Canon Meet The Market Demand?
« on: February 08, 2012, 03:09:15 PM »
I'll give Canon until the end of the month to announce the 5DIII. If it doesn't, I'm putting in a pre-order for a D800 and putting 10 years worth of Canon gear up on ebay.

Can you give us a list of your gear so I know what to look for?

Sure:

- 1DsIII (tentatively sold)
- 1D Mark II N
- 5D Classic
- 17-40L
- 24-105L
- 70-300L
- Three 550EX flashes
- Remote release
- B&W 67mm circular polarizer
 


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EOS Bodies / Re: When will Canon Meet The Market Demand?
« on: February 08, 2012, 11:38:09 AM »
I'll give Canon until the end of the month to announce the 5DIII. If it doesn't, I'm putting in a pre-order for a D800 and putting 10 years worth of Canon gear up on ebay.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 40MP Canon that's not the 5D3?
« on: February 08, 2012, 11:35:00 AM »
If there's any truth to the rumors that the 5DIII will remain in the 21-22 mp range, this makes a lot of sense. The question is whether or not a 40 mp body will offer the balance of resolution and AF of the D800, and the bigger question is price.

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EOS Bodies / Re: How does Canon respond to the D800?
« on: February 07, 2012, 09:45:31 PM »
Regardless of all the blah, blah, go look at the published 30 MB jpegs from the D800E. The proof is in the pudding. If Canon doesn't respond by April they have just lost another customer. My 1DSIII can't hold a candle to even the jpegs out of the D800E. I've shot Canons 35s all my adult life, but I will soon be gone to Nikon.

I'm in the same boat. I've been looking to upgrade my 1DsIII, and the 1Dx doesn't suite my needs. During the "rumor" stage, the D800 seemed like a nice upgrade to my current body, and real world specs and sample images are living up to the hype. I'll wait to see how Canon specs out the 5DIII before making a final decision. I've researched how much I can sell my Canon gear for on ebay, and the money I'll have to spend to replicate my setup with equivalent Nikon glass and the D800 is very palatable.

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EOS Bodies / Re: How does Canon respond to the D800?
« on: February 07, 2012, 09:38:50 PM »
I don't know how Canon can respond to this camera without making a huge leap in in-camera IQ improvement.
Read and see here http://cliffmautner.typepad.com/  - the guy states NO Flash, no exposure compensation... Well, if the next gen DSLR are like this then ... my goodness ! Seems that there is a lot of automatic adjustments the D800 does to improve/compensate for any high ISO noise. Yes, there will be noise but heck, the 5D2 crowd has been putting up with it quite well up till now.
Let's just hope Canon as a big camera manufacturer does not disappoint with the bells and whistles - there appears to be a lot more to digital imaging nowadays than just MP, AF points and noise management. I hope there are DIGIC5 applications in camera that will at least match the D800's.


Wow. Those D800 samples have a very 5D-like look to them. I wonder how much post processing was done, but the color, contrast, and DR is stunning!

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