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OK, let's step things up a notch. Here are some product images I recently took with a 5DC, 1D2, a couple of small softboxes, and a pair of 550EXs. They're mixed in with some more GM media photos shot in medium format. Interestingly, despite having just 8 megapixels, my 1D2 didn't suddenly self-destruct out of embarrassment in light of the higher resolution bodies on the market ;D It still took exceptional images. 






I did recognize the items in 2 and 5 so that made it easier to guess.

How dare you be so well informed  :)

Images 2, 5, and 7 are from the Phase One. They are stunningly good images and beautifully lit, although I still find it odd that GM used such insanely expensive gear. I suppose that's the luxury you have when you're a multi-billion dollar corporation backed by taxpayer dollars :o The largest images like these are ever run in print are 4.5x3, and usually more like 3x2. As such, they are scaled to 10x8 at 300 dpi on GM's media site, so they're essentially throwing all the pixels away.

I think that much of the differences between the G7 and Phase One images are due to superior lighting techniques used in the MF images. I'd venture to say if the corporate hot shot photog shot used my G7 and I used the Phase One, the GM images might still look better. 

Almost forgot to mention that the Phase One images are press images that the "mystery corporation" offers for download to editorial outlets. As such, they have been sized accordingly by the corporation, not me, for easy download. The point is that I've been downloading these files for years, oblivious to the fact that they were shot with Phase One backs, which is definitely overkill for editorial use. I just happened to check the exif data one day, and was shocked to see that the images were taken in medium format.

With all the stink about megapixels lately, I thought I'd put together a quaint little test. Some of these are product shots I took for editorial clients with my 10 megapixel G7 point-and-shoot. The rest aren't my shots, but they're of similar engine parts taken with a 39 megapixels medium format Phase One P45. I read a post today where someone said they'd be happy with the 5DIII if it had at least 25 megapixels instead of 22, so apparently every last MP counts, but does it really?

And please don't cheat by looking at the exif data. I tried to erase it the best I can, but there might be some giveaways to the camera's identities nonetheless. At any rate, I've numbered each image 1-7, so try to guess which images was taken with the G7, and which one was taken by the Phase One

If you look closely enough, you can spot a difference between the G7 and Phase One images. However, I'd argue that a lot of that has to do with differences in technique. My point-and-shoot shots were taken using nothing more than natural light and some white poster board whereas the Phase One images were taken in a studio with fancier equipment. I don't know how fancy, because they aren't my shots and I wasn't there, but considering that they were commission by a rather large mega-budget corporation, it's safe to say they had the means to spend a lot more money than my editorial clients. I'll reveal who the unidentified corporation is later, but don't want to yet as it might give a clue as to which shots came from which camera.








Before anyone cries foul, is there any way I can upload the high-res files somewhere for download, if anyone cares to pixel peep? I can upload them onto my website's lightbox, but I have to invite people via e-mail.

EOS Bodies / Re: 5d markiii officially wont use SDHC UHS-1?
« on: March 16, 2012, 06:25:12 PM »
So perhaps the card is a bit like putting a supercharger in your grandmother's car. I just compared the 5 d mark 3 to grandmother's old buick! ;D I bet that's a first.

Did someone say supercharger  ;D?

The funny thing is this car is owned by a 70 year-old grandpa.

I very excited about the AF, FPS, and ISO improvements to the 5DIII, which I will put to good use on very single shoot. The dual card slots and improved weather sealing are huge bonuses as well. The 5DIII does everything the 1DsIII did, and then some, for half the price, so I don't know why so many people are upset. Last I checked, the 5DII and 1DsIII were the gold standards for overall IQ, at least in the 35mm world. Now Canon releases a camera in the 5DIII that's better in every way, and all of a sudden is a pile of junk. Go figure.

I can't comment on the 1Dx, as I was never seriously considering buying one. I wonder how many people complaining about the 1Dx or 5DIII were actually going to buy one if they met their desired specs?

Here's one of Will and Kate I took last summer on Parliament Hill in Ottawa on Canada Day

Very cool. Thank goodness William has better taste in women than his dad :o

and yes we too have the Queen on our Money.

How did the Queen talk the Canadians into that one :)? I demand Naomi Watts or Sienna Miller (preferably both) in exchange for this service, and nothing less!

I have a seperate bag for flash gear

Me too. I just don't like having lots of gear, but I suppose that makes me a freak. I've tried my best to keep the amount of equipment I have to minimum, but this s**t keeps piling up, I tell ya :)

EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mk III vs D800/E, is the 5D3 better at anything?
« on: March 15, 2012, 08:20:54 PM »
Reading through this whole thread (8 pages...really?) reminds me of something I heard an old cowboy say years ago. Some people would complain if they were hung with a brand new rope. (smile)


That's just silly. I very much prefer getting hung with old rope. It's much more compliant.

EOS Bodies / Re: 5DIII pre-order thread
« on: March 15, 2012, 08:18:06 PM »
It says that B&H should have it in stock by tomorrow. I am ready for mine!!!!

I sure hope so! Damnit, B&H, after all the money I've spent with you over the years, I need an update.

I'm sure if you guys put the Queen on your money, all will be forgiven.  ;D

Americans would be more than up for this notion once Kate Middleton takes the thrown, but aren't there two old hags in line in front of her ;D?

No need to speak of my mother like that  :o :o :o

Please forgive my foul language. I wasn't aware that I was in the presence of royalty. I kindly ask that you take mercy upon me, for I am just a poor peasant  :'(

I thought I read somewhere that you can trigger the shutter remotely with the new 600EX/STE3 combo. For instance, with the ST-E3 mounted on the body, I believe you can trigger the shutter on the camera via radio with a 600EX. Can anyone confirm or refute this? I really like the Odins, but this feature would be a nice perk.

Yes I've read that multiple places. Only with a 2012 camera I believe (5DMKII and 1DX). A ST-E3-RT will also remote trigger.

Very cool. That does choosing between the Odins and the 600EX more difficult. I like the performance and price of the Odins, but having an OE Canon solution for radio flash triggering as well as radio shutter triggering would eliminate a half dozen accessories out of my camera bad, which is getting crowded as is already. 

I thought I read somewhere that you can trigger the shutter remotely with the new 600EX/STE3 combo. For instance, with the ST-E3 mounted on the body, I believe you can trigger the shutter on the camera via radio with a 600EX. Can anyone confirm or refute this? I really like the Odins, but this feature would be a nice perk. 

EOS Bodies / Re: 5DM3 HDR Article
« on: March 15, 2012, 07:07:06 PM »
I for one have forayed into RAW but as stated previously, don't have the time or ambition ATM to bother... JPEG works and my clients have all been exceptionally happy.  JPEG has paid for all my cameras to date so to dismiss it because it's slightly lacking would make me an idiot...  horses for courses.

I'm in the same boat. I know people like to go poopoo on jpegs, but if that's what a client asks for, that's what I'm going to give them. Unless they specifically ask for raw or TIFF files, or I'm shooting something that I know will need substantial manipulation in post processing, jpegs suffice for my needs most of the time. IMHO, jpegs still offer far more latitude that what was possible in the days of film. I completely understand the reasoning for shooting raw if you need to extract every last pixel of detail and produce images at a very high level, but too often I see it used as a crutch for poor technique.

EOS Bodies / Re: 5DM3 HDR Article
« on: March 15, 2012, 07:01:29 PM »
Wow, those samples look terrible, but then again I hate HDR. Hopefully the feature will be of more merit when in practice in the hands of those that take a more tasteful approach to HDR.
The landscape/water picture looked pretty cool to me.  I think I'm one of the rare guys that actually likes HDR.

I'm disappointed that so many of the samples were of a wedding dress near marble columns. All my favorite HDR images involve the landscapes, city scapes, etc.  I bet I'm not alone in thinking, "It would be nice if this camera put those shots in my hands."

Dont get me wrong i absolutly love HDR just not the cookie cutter tonemapped type :D

+1 I like the type of HDR where it lookd like s standard picture except fr the DR is clearly much greater - where thetr is detail in blacks and whites

Me too. I just don't like images that look like cartoons.

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