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Canon General / Re: Canon's MAP Pricing Goes Into Full Effect Today

« on: November 02, 2012, 05:42:24 PM »

When a price jumps a couple hundred dollars (or more) for no good reason it POs me. I can see charging more for a new product and then adjusting for the market and competition but not just bumping the price from one hour to the next. A person can make up any rational/excuse they want but that's how I feel and I don't think I am alone.

If you don't mind paying whatever the price is today that is your choice. Just like it is my prerogative to not.

This is NOT how a free capitalist economy works. This is price fixing. I have heard "levelling the playing field" used which is BS and at minimum a socialist method. It should be illegal in the US.

Buy it or not, it depends on you.

I personally don't have a problem with the manufacturer setting a firm price for their products. In fact, I'd rather not waste my energy timing the market in search of a good deal.

My gripe is when the price is too high, milking the early adopters, taking advantage of the fact that most people won't bother switching systems for a few hundred $, and offering periodic rebates to prop up sales volume. Why not just set a competitive price from the start?

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Canon General / Re: Canon's MAP Pricing Goes Into Full Effect Today

« on: November 02, 2012, 12:50:42 PM »

So if Nikon didn't exist 5DIII would be excellent and now it is not?
And who decides what is the correct number of megapixels?

Well, I never said Canon was not a good camera - only overpriced. And yes, economics 101 tells us that in the absence of competition Canon would command a higher price. But when they are not king of the hill any more, they better price their products competitively.

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Canon General / Re: Canon's MAP Pricing Goes Into Full Effect Today

« on: November 02, 2012, 12:25:22 PM »

What make you think 5D III is "overpriced"? let me me guess....not enough MP compared to D800?

Sarcasm aside, that too. The sensor is one of the most important aspects - that's the major reason 5DII costs 50% more than 7D, despite its speed, AF, etc.

So, if Nikon can offer better DR and similar low ISO performance in a higher MP sensor, what makes Canon think they can initially ask $500 more for their camera?

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Canon General / Re: Canon's MAP Pricing Goes Into Full Effect Today

« on: November 02, 2012, 12:17:48 PM »

Who defines 'overpriced'?  For some people, the 5DIII at $2900 was too expensive...for others, $3500 is not too expensive. 

The answer to my question is 'the market' defines 'overpriced' and that leads to low sales, which might lead to a reduction in the MAP.  But if sales don't drop much, or at all...

You are right, the market defines "overpriced". So, the fact that retailers cut into their profit in order to move the product tells me that the camera hadn't been flying off the shelves at the regular price.

However, the camera market is not perfect. Because of the cost of switching to another brand, Canon can get away with overcharging their customers.

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Canon General / Re: Canon's MAP Pricing Goes Into Full Effect Today

« on: November 02, 2012, 11:40:28 AM »

Problem is though...people on CR want to buy the bloody thing, but do not wish to pay full price (dilemma )

Not quite true... people do not wish to pay the full price FOR AN OVERPRICED product.

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Pricewatch Deals / Re: The 5D Mark II & 5D Mark III Get Cheaper

« on: October 24, 2012, 10:42:39 PM »

How can I sign up the price drop notifications?  I want a 5dm3 and my budget is below $3000.

You can get it for $2800 new from ebay. I personally haven't bought from that seller, but they have a good rating and claim to be an authorized reseller:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-III-Digital-Camera-Digital-SLR-Body-/180998819475?afepn=5335869999&campid=5335869999&PID=1225267&forcev4exp=true&forceRpt=true#ht_3479wt_1397