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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 28 f/2.8 Disappears From Price List
« on: January 14, 2012, 02:00:51 AM »
As stated above, there are f/2.8 zooms of good quality, so I can't imagine the 28/2.8 is a popular lens. 

Don't forget that in addition to the EF 28mm f/2.8, there's also an EF 28mm f/1.8 USM, a newer and more expensive lens.  If this isn't just a temporary/regional change, and Canon actually is discontinuing the 28/2.8, they may be getting rid of the cheaper, poorer-selling lens and driving people to purchase the more expensive lens if they need the 28mm focal length as a prime.

The 28mm 1.8 is also priced to be within range of alot more people than the 24mm and 35mm 1.4 L's aswell so theres likely much less demand for a cheaper option at those focal lenghts.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Mirrorless in 2012?
« on: January 14, 2012, 01:46:23 AM »
That's the thing. A DSLR, by definition, cannot have an electronic viewfinder at the same time as an optical one. It may have a second, smaller sensor for the EVF component, but we shall not get into that. Of course, OVFs have electronic parts embedded, but it is not a preview of what the sensor is seeing, because of the mirror. It is all about that mirror. Sony has their A65/77, but that lacks an OVF ...

The mirror could be flipped up when the EVF is in use though, obviously that means no contrast detect AF but then again the same would be true for any mirrorless camera.

We talk about improved EVF's but really there never going to provide the same thing as an OVF just as even the largest most hi tech TV is still obviously a TV.

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PowerShot Cameras / Re: *UPDATE 3* Canon PowerShot G1X Revealed
« on: January 11, 2012, 04:30:09 PM »
Personally, I am not interested. However, the weight you state is only for the Rebel body. Try attaching a lens with similar focal length to the G1X to your Rebel, and see if you can find a pocket large enough to fit it in ...

You've also got a longer lens with a better appature than the 18-55 kit plus a more pocketable form factor, personally the latter.

I'm say the more important comparison would be to the Sony NEX 5, including the kit zoom there pretty much the same weight but again the Canon has the advanatge of a longer zoom range, faster lens and form factor plus an OVF and built in flash.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Mirrorless in 2012?
« on: January 10, 2012, 07:13:33 AM »
I have the EVF for the NEX-5N, and although very high resolution and quite impressive, especially with scene preview and live histogram, it still does not have the same natural feeling of an OVF. I don't think mirrorless cameras are meant to replace DSLRs ... mirrored and mirrorless cameras have co-existed since the beginning. They will continue to address different needs in different audiences in the market, and will complement each other in a professional's photography kit.

A DSLR could of course also potentially have a hyrid OVF/EVF aswell to get the advantages from the latter, that and having to balance large zoom lenses will IMHO keep them alive although I do think systems like this new Fuji will take a good deal of the hi end market.

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PowerShot Cameras / Re: Canon PowerShot G1 X Announced
« on: January 10, 2012, 04:16:24 AM »
The lens needs to be "slow" because of the big sensor. The maximum aperture is around 10mm -- that is about the same as the 18-55mm rebel kit lens, or the 20mm f/1.7 pancake prime that is popular on micro 4/3. So for those who are used to fast lenses on an SLR, nothing to write home about, but Canon are probably trying to pick off the crowd who would otherwise buy a big sensor camera with the kit lens and never change lenses.

My guess is that this is actually the silent majority of mirrorless users given that lens sales lag well behind camera sales on places like Amazon. When you make that comparison the lens on this camera has a longer zoom range and a superior appature at the wide end.

Compaired to the X10 its going to offer superior DOF control and you would think superior ISO petformance aswell.


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For used gear I'd guess it would depend very much of the seller, I'd definately email them first myself to get as much in writting as possible.

For new gear I'v heard from a few people that alot of the ultra cheap third party sellers are actually grey imports not covered by uk warrenty, the Canon 55-250 mk1's espeically seem to often be suspect.

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For used equipment MPB is the best I'v found, good prices, good selection of Canon lenses that easy to search and I'v had no problem with any order, had one lens turn up with a free pounch that wasnt even advertised. ;)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Will Canon price match the 1DX to the D4?
« on: January 07, 2012, 03:37:15 AM »
Nikon usually prices their cameras a few hundred above the equivalent Canon Model, so expect a D4 to cost $7000-$7400.  Lets hope Canon does not raise their price.

If the rumored Nikon D4 comes in at $6,000 and is equivalent, then I think Canon would drop their price.

I'd like to see that Native 104,600 ISO first.

In this case though there hasnt really been a equivalent, Canon's previous body targetting this market was ASPH.

The sports, jurno, wildlife market is also I expect one where Canon considers itself to be offers the more prenium product. Its got the more extensive range of tele lenses and the 1DX is aimed towards those expensive lenses with no F/8 while the Nikon is aimed at cheaper ones with a TC.

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PowerShot Cameras / Re: *UPDATE 3* Canon PowerShot G1X Revealed
« on: January 07, 2012, 03:30:34 AM »
We know this Powershot is the answer to M4/3, Nikon, Sony, et al, with all those Canon statements about how they're not convinced mirrorless compacts are the way to go, and that they're totally revamping the G series.

Why isn't it feasible for the G1X to have a 1.5" sensor instead of the 1/1.5?  $800 is totally nuts unless it can compete with the $1000 (at this point) Fujifilm - doesn't the X100 have an aps-C?

It does seem kinda silly to throw on a zoom lens instead of a prime on the G1X, but whatever, zoom appeals to the mass market.

There's no such thing as a "$500-$800" price point on point-and-shoots.  For $800, it's gotta be something completely different.

I'm not a pro (I don't usually get paid to take photos), so I can't justify any ILC because of the cost of lenses, and I'd much rather buy from Canon than Fuji.  If it's comparable, this camera sounds great.  For $800, there's no way it's just an S100 with external controls.  Right?

The G series isnt "Point and Shoot" though, that would be the S series.

I can certainly see a larger sensor size than the X10 being possible but going beyond ASPC doesnt seem likely to me.

One area the rumours havent said anything about either is the viewfinder. If the G1X had a much larger viewfinder with better coverage and maybe some display info then that could make a massive difference.

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PowerShot Cameras / Re: *UPDATE* Canon PowerShot G1X Revealed
« on: January 05, 2012, 12:54:59 PM »
8) I think we need to wait for something official. If it is 1/1,5, that would make it the same size as the Fuji x10 but still smaller than the Nikon V1. If it is 1.5", that that would make it quite a large sensor and something to celebrate, even without interchangeable lenses.

One thing I haven't noticed mentioned: does it have IS??

The G1X is going to be in much more direct competision with the X10 than it is the V1 though, similar product in a similar price range. Given that manifacturers have always shown alot of inertia in terms of sensor size with fixed lens digital it seems to make sense Canon is looking to equal the X10 then potentially depend on the brand name and superior funcationality to sell it.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 7D Mark II for Photokina? [CR1]
« on: December 31, 2011, 12:21:27 PM »
The issue that Canon has is that the 1DX is going to be expensive and the 7D is relatively cheap - this leaves them with a huge gap in their product range.

....perhaps a good thing for Canon? with the 1DX and the 7D mk2 as the AF/FPS focused cameras having some space between them in sensor size and performance would stop one canibalising the others sales.

I'd add that the ideal situation for Canon isnt for 1D users to buy the 1DX or the 7D mk2 but rather the 1DX AND the 7D mk2. A cheaper 7D mk2 with a bigger difference in crop factor would make a much more appealing second body purchase for pro's using 1DX's.

The biggest problem with ASPH on a 7D is always going to be lack of wideangle coverage. The 1D userbase might be ok with this but the 7D's primary market will remain amatures looking for a general purpose body.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 7D Mark II for Photokina? [CR1]
« on: December 30, 2011, 01:19:48 AM »
I understand that but I addressed that issue in my post. Users of the 7D that want to update (ones with lots of EF-S) can look at the new xxD. The APS-C market is a little too crowded. I think moving the 7D up and allowing the 70D to return the xxD line to it's historic position could work. Make it a $1400 camera with some of the speed and possibly the AF system of the 7D and a new sensor. As it stands Canon has 4 cameras with the same sensor between $800 and $1400

No one here has suggested that you lose your 1.6 crop. If you want that there will be plenty of new 1.6 crop cameras (xxD)

All of this is useless anyway because Canon isn't going to do it. The 7D will be APS-C and it will have tons of MPs.

7D users buying a 70D means less money for Canon though and as has been said theres less of a draw for 1D users aswell if the 7D remains ASPH with no extra crop.

I agree the 7D mk2 and the 70D could do with more space between them than between the 7D/60D but I don't think ASPH is needed for that, just up the 7D mk2's FPS and AF plus possible use different ASPC sensors with the 70D upping megapixels and the 7D mk2 ISO performance.

The 1D mk4 is hardly that old either so Canon really isnt in desperate need of a new ASPH body in the short term, I'd guess they'll see how it sells compaired to the 1DX and 7D mk2 in 2012 and make a decision from there.

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Lenses / Re: Canon 15-85 for a walk around lens
« on: December 30, 2011, 01:10:12 AM »
Image Quality between them is really close enough to not make it an issue I'd say so it really comes down to focal lenght vs appature.

What do you shoot? if its mostly people/action and often indoors then the 17-50 is probabley a better option for faster shutter speeds and shallow DOF, if its mostly outdoors and/or landscapes the 15-85 does with its range and flare resistance.

Personally speaking I preffer using a small prime(35mm f/2) for people shooting, gets in peoples faces less, offers a larger appature and I find the zoom less important than for landscape since you can do it with you feet.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 7D Mark II for Photokina? [CR1]
« on: December 29, 2011, 02:06:13 PM »
I don't think Canon will make the 7D II a APS-H. I think it actually makes a lot of sense for them too. They can make the 7DII  APS-H and then put the 70D much higher in the range to take the place of the 7D for people that want to stick with their EF-S Lenses.

I'm only really in the market for a FF camera in the future so I'm not so concerned with what the 7DII will be.  I'm happy with my 7D now. But I will be much less likely to upgrade it if it's just a high MP APS-C camera. Canon needs to either redesign the 18mp sensor or put a APS-H in it for me to be interested.

I know I'm not the normal customer perhaps. I have no EF-S lenses to worry about and I'm content with my 7D. The 7D's AF is fantastic, the build quality is great and the feature list is outstanding. The only thing the 7D really needs is a new sensor. I would be fine with the amount of noise at high ISOs if the pattern was prettier.

As has been said though going ASPH would be users with EF-S lenses would be less likely to upgrade and would also mean that the new system lacked UWA coverage, not a problem for the 1D but the 7D has been marketed as a more all round system.

If Canon really wanted to target the 1D userbase then I'd guess staying at 18 megapixels, upping the AF and FPS would be the most obvious way to go with the extra range of the 1.6 crop being the big selling point.

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That is exactly the reason why I have suggested Canon should upsize the S100. Give it a 4/3 sensor, FAST AF, Keep f2.0 at wide side,make it faster at tele with a better lens at the same time.

For something the size of the S series I'd guess the lens would be prohibtively large with a sensor that size. They could I spose go with a prime or a shorter zoom but the G series seems better suited to upping the sensor size.

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