As Neuro has pointed out, if a landscape is going to have more than 12 stops of DR it is likely to be well over 14 - because the only thing that is going to take it over about 10 or 11 is including the actual light source in the picture.
If you're basing your comment on Neuro's then you've no personal experience to base this on. Similarly, in Neuro's comment he doesn't actually reference any personal experience either, just makes a grand statement. If he said the sun would rise at midnight, would that make it true?
Why don't you go out there and find out for yourself what the limitations are of the equipment? Yes, that would mean going outside and taking photographs but it won't hurt you.
In Sporgon's signature, there a link to his images. I recommend that you not click it, or else you might realize how asinine your statements are (assuming that would come as a surprise).
Well if he has his own experience to build on then he doesn't need to quote or cite your comments, does he?
I was expanding on a point made earlier by Neuro. It was common courtesy to acknowledge that he made the original point. It also lets readers know that I have been following what had been said earlier in the thread. Beginners Guide to Debating, Chapter One.
From the threads on CR it is clear there is a total misconception of the amount of EV range in a scene. No doubt this is partly stoked by people using reflective light meter readings.
I could post a picture taken into the morning sun of a beached fishing boat, which, as well as exposing for the sky has absolutely zero noise or banding in the dark underside of the boat's hull, but as PBD has already posted a picture which trolls have taken zero notice of, I'm not going to bother.
I'm not saying 11.5 stops is always enough. I'm saying that the difference between 12 and 14 ( or 11.7 and 13.2 if we are going to be anal about it ) is not a deal breaker. The difference between 12 and 20 would be a deal breaker. Why such a big jump ? Read what was written earlier.
Here's a link to a shot into the sun with the dreadful noise plagued 5D mkii (not one of mine). When you get beyond this start complaining about DR. http://500px.com/photo/35632728
It's also worth mentioning that to a certain extent, photography is defined by its limitation in DR. Reproduce a scene as we really see it and it will be quite boring as the human eye ( or to be more correct, the brain ) has around 24 stops due to our HDR computing ability.
Again you might find this an interesting read:http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/cameras-vs-human-eye.htm