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Oh, BTW... PDB with all his "I know how it done and it's no talent". Actually doesn't know how it's done as he missed a huge gap in the how with a critical piece of gear. I'm still waiting for him to come across with his entry. Posers be posers for life.
A lot of unreasonable hate for private's post surely !
All he said was that you don't need expensive equipment and vast natural talent to produce that effect ! And come on Guys, he's right about that. No need to take it so personally.
I'm shooting some pictures for a budding professional dancer soon, and would like to do one or two with that technique, so I thought I should have a quick practice on the exposure balances. In this instance I just used an old £27 lens, an old 550 flash on camera but bounced into a gold lasolite. Having the flash on camera restricts both the modelling light and the available distance, but it gives some idea of the effect you can get with the most basic of equipment, and I don't consider it is skilful especially now that we can check lighting balance on the fly, so there is no excise for actually getting it wrong.
Here I played about with different lighting ratios between ambient and fill.
OK, so the model has seen better days, but hey ! so has the photographer and his equipment. These pictures are nothing like as good as Pookie's, but take 25 years off the model and 90% of her clothes and it makes the picture much better anyway
Many people will look at Pookie's picture and think 'I wish I could take pictures like that'. Well you can. Digital has short circuited the learning curve. I think private is right to point this out.
I really appreciate that you show some work but PBD said anyone could do it. Is he anybody or nobody? So far, I still haven't seen his entry. It's easy to say, another thing to do. I've seen how Formula 1 drivers drive the course... doesn't mean I can enter the race. I watch lots of college basketball, I know how the game is played... doesn't mean I can pull it off. I've been to the ER, seen doctors work and people recover... I'm game, let me pull you appendix. You need some type of proof I can do this, whaaa... You'll take my word I can do it right?
The steep learning curve has been so reduced so that anyone can do it.... I do agree to some extent but I haven't seen "everyone" even come close. Probably why so many here are here. To try and do, rather than sit by the sidelines. He also said you don't need all that gear... so you could pull off a shot like that in the surf with a Buff light? I'd dearly love to see that. Or let's even try that with 5-6 speedlites? Where you goona set up those light stands... just to the left where 4 foot surge is coming or to the right where the cliff wall lands? And why is everyone interested in using weather sealing L glass? Couldn't be because if you do this for a living and get hammered by surf occasionally and your 1.8 might not survive one shoot?
How about the easiest part of this whole venture? Getting clients that want to take these photos... paying clients. Not your wife. As nice as your photos are above, you're not there. And the even "easier" part, working with clients while on the set to get them to do this for you while on camera? You know, the easy part of a month of client back and forth... maybe you've never met in person... and then build an almost instant rapport on set so they are comfortable giving you their best.
All that... 15 years experience, and 15 years of client work to pay for all that gear, 15 years of client lists to get a rep, so someone like the model above comes to you? Again, tell me how you pulled that off and show me some photos... you know, the easy part and the part "everyone" can do.
The green-eyed spiteful comments lack any logic. Never said I was the most talented... but PBD thought to chime in with a unrelated comment to this thread. A post about the 24-70 II and the 5D3 specifically. I supported my approval of the 24-70 to the OP with actual, real world photos. Mine. All I ask is some work to prove his unrelated point... since he decided to chime in with "no talent" and everyone can do this there is no innovation. So he doesn't think the photos is good and show no talent, could have walked on by but green eyed he had to comment.
I have much respect for those that at least participate with some images to back up a point. 20 years ago I was fooling around with film and learning the ropes. From the beginning I've never been afraid of critics or wouldn't want to show my work... it how you learn but I also know if you're going to offer a critique/comment be prepared to back up what you say. This is a website about camera gear and photography or am I horribly mistaken. Hot air dissipates quickly doesn't it PBD? Then your comments have no substance beyond bad breath and heat. I do have to apologize though... I lumped PBD into the same pool as Dilbert. At least Dilbert has shown some images from time to time. Sorry Dilbert.
PBD flouts that he's a pro and doesn't need to show his work because of privacy... show me... I'll say it again, you should stick to numbers and your dissertations on "compression", it suits your photography well. Your silence is deafening.