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EOS Bodies / Re: Are These The EOS 7D Mark II Specifications?
« Last post by KacperP on Today at 03:53:03 PM »
"Fine detail"... Maybe it's 80 (or much more) mpix chip, with each pixel read from 4 pixels on chip? No need for AA then.
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EOS Bodies / Re: Are These The EOS 7D Mark II Specifications?
« Last post by jrista on Today at 03:52:47 PM »
Regarding the sensor...very disappointing. Sounds like a re-purposed 70D sensor with a DPAF improvement. I was REALLY, REALLY hoping Canon would really show something impressive on the sensor front with the 7D II. If the camera really does hit the streets with a 20mp sensor, I fully expect it to have the same DR limitations as all of Canon's previous sensors. Extremely disappointing.  :'( Guess we'll have to wait for the 5D IV to see if Canon can actually step up their sensor IQ game or not...which is just...so far down the road...Bleh.

Also worried about the "fine detail"...I really don't want them to start removing AA filters. That is just a dumb trend that photographers like simply because they do not understand the value of an AA filter, or the ease by which AA softening can be sharpened.

+1

it sorta almost leads one to believe that Japanese Canon Fangirls post here where they were claiming that Canon feels they have Canon users trapped enough that it won't matter if the bodies they push out can't keep up as per sensors and even other features at times (still not a hint that they are actually moving any DSLR sensors to new fabs and the panny gets 4k and yet the super new 7D2 which was promised to have revolutionary video and this and that is still 1080p)

and yeah the AA filter-less stuff I am not a big fan of, maybe when we get to 180MP FF or 60MP APS-C or something.

Yeah, we really need sensors to significantly oversample the lens before we can legitimately start dropping AA filters. Otherwise we just end up WITH aliasing, and that's never good.

I was not really interested in the 7D II being a big video DSLR anyway...I don't really know that anyone truly was, you just don't get that cinematic look with a smaller sensor...not without having very wide apertures anyway (like a lot of expensive cinema lenses do).

The thing that I think Canon really needed to nail, and which increasingly appears as they will not, is producing a truly new sensor with a fundamentally new design on a smaller fabrication process size. It just isn't happening. If this thing is still a 500nm transistor part...I mean...WOW. That technology is about fifteen years old!! What is Canon doing? It's one thing to be conservative, but now it's just getting ludicrous...
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EOS Bodies / Re: Are These The EOS 7D Mark II Specifications?
« Last post by zim on Today at 03:52:31 PM »
70D native top iso 12800
7D - 16000

If correct doesn't sound like 'just' a 70D with AA removed to me??
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EOS Bodies / Re: Are These The EOS 7D Mark II Specifications?
« Last post by xps on Today at 03:50:54 PM »
No new sensor? 20.2 MP looks like an "Well known" one... DR & IQ better? Or just electronically "optimized"?
Just an new AF system...

Ok, lets have a look @ IQ when it has been released on real world samples...

Price???
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EOS Bodies / Re: Are These The EOS 7D Mark II Specifications?
« Last post by stondawg on Today at 03:50:33 PM »
and you are a very reliable source....  ::)

As far as you know :)
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Animal Kingdom / Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Last post by Jack Douglas on Today at 03:50:06 PM »
I'd love to have those in my collection! ;)

Jack
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EOS Bodies / Re: Are These The EOS 7D Mark II Specifications?
« Last post by Lightmaster on Today at 03:48:57 PM »
It certainly sounds good and yet if it doesn't do more than just give a 70D sensor without AA (and maybe it does do more) and no 4k it seems like it's something they could've produced as is some time ago already.

my first thoughts exactly.

where are the video features that are hyped for years?

does the 20.2 MP 70D sensor replaces the 18MP sensor now for the next 5 years?

it´s seems a bit unfair to judge it before we have seen it but hey this is a rumor site.. so we talk about the rumors. that´s all the fun right?
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EOS Bodies / Re: Are These The EOS 7D Mark II Specifications?
« Last post by LetTheRightLensIn on Today at 03:48:22 PM »
Regarding the sensor...very disappointing. Sounds like a re-purposed 70D sensor with a DPAF improvement. I was REALLY, REALLY hoping Canon would really show something impressive on the sensor front with the 7D II. If the camera really does hit the streets with a 20mp sensor, I fully expect it to have the same DR limitations as all of Canon's previous sensors. Extremely disappointing.  :'( Guess we'll have to wait for the 5D IV to see if Canon can actually step up their sensor IQ game or not...which is just...so far down the road...Bleh.

Also worried about the "fine detail"...I really don't want them to start removing AA filters. That is just a dumb trend that photographers like simply because they do not understand the value of an AA filter, or the ease by which AA softening can be sharpened.

+1

it sorta almost leads one to believe that Japanese Canon Fangirls post here where they were claiming that Canon feels they have Canon users trapped enough that it won't matter if the bodies they push out can't keep up as per sensors and even other features at times (still not a hint that they are actually moving any DSLR sensors to new fabs and the panny gets 4k and yet the super new 7D2 which was promised to have revolutionary video and this and that is still 1080p)

and yeah the AA filter-less stuff I am not a big fan of, maybe when we get to 180MP FF or 60MP APS-C or something.
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As an electronics engineer I have no objection to people getting as technical as they like.  I'm not immune.  However, sometimes simple things are made to look so technical that it scares folk away.  AFMA can only be as precise as the settings 0 +- 1, 2, 3 ......

Here is my tale regarding AFMA.  Spent big bucks on a 6D and 300 2.8 etc. and was all worked up about whether things were as good as they should be, pixel peeping and all.  So I parted with the gear for nearly 2 months and Canon set it all perfectly for me.  300 mounted AFMA +3  Then there was the time of charts and shots and more shots and ... oh dear oh dear.  Then I progressed to, "hey set it to whatever and go out and shoot".  Well now it's at +12 and my results are pretty consistent, thanks Canon.  When I view a shot such as this I think, well maybe a little back focused but how in the world could the focus ever be 100% - an eyball is not likely going to catch the algorithim like an eyelid so it may be focused on the front or rear eyelid or .....??
So I can just change it by a digit and maybe I'll prefer what I get.  Right now I'm getting great results overall so it stays put. The point is there is a lot of hit and miss in all of this and it's not like a mathematical calculation to 10 decimal places.  Each person chooses what they prefer but if you're uneasy about it, don't be, relax and just experiment.

And as stated don't forget to set it back to what worked best or what is correct. :)

Jack
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EOS Bodies / Re: Are These The EOS 7D Mark II Specifications?
« Last post by Lightmaster on Today at 03:46:51 PM »
I was told yesterday it will have dual DIGIC 7 processors. Just sayin...

and you are a very reliable source....  ::)
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