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EOS Bodies / Re: Where is the Canon EOS 6D Mark II?
« Last post by bereninga on Today at 11:01:42 AM »
To save costs they could just use the same AF sensor as in the 5D-IV, but disable the non-cross-type points. This would give a 41 point AF system with the ability for them to proudly proclaim that they are #AllCrossType

This sounds about right, but I still think it'll be a 19-point all cross-type AF system (but at least it'll have DPAF). When the 6D came out, its AF system was indeed lower than the t4i, which was released before the 6D. The t4i had 9 all cross-type vs the 6D, which only had ONE cross-type (facepalm).

I think the 6D was aimed at the photographers who did landscape, low-light/astro, prosumer market aka folks who didn't need a super AF system.

Canon's success w/ the 6D might've been very unexpected and now they're being extra careful on its release of the 6DII.

This site is very accurate on its rumored spec list, so if this list were to be true (with 45 or 41 AF points), I think the 6DII price will be > $2k. I imagine something around $2400. The 6D was introduced at $2100 and it was rumored to move upmarket and it'll replace the 5DIII spot in Canon's lineup.
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EOS Bodies / Re: Where is the Canon EOS 6D Mark II?
« Last post by Don Haines on Today at 10:59:51 AM »
I think a change like this could leave a gap where the Nikon D610 is, i.e. those that want FF for the minimum price.

Could Canon keep making the original 6D?

Good question.  Whereas the 6D2 all but certainly spells the end for the 5D3, I'm less sure about the 6D1.  The 6D2 is such a feature set bump over the 6D1 that they almost sit in different market spaces.  One could see a near-future (say 2018) in which the FF line is:

Budget:  6D1
Mid-level:  6D2

All-Purpose Pro: 5D4
High Res Pro:  5DS/R
Flagship:  1DX2

But does Canon want those two red line items to coexist?  I think they certainly could given how much better the 6D2 is spec'd to be, but perhaps Canon wants to take the 6D1 off the board to prevent a still-in-production $1000-1200 FF rig (albeit a dated one) from ever becoming a market expectation.

When Canon launched the 5DIII, they did not discontinue/EOL the 5DII.  Rather, they kept it active for ~6 months (IIRC), until the launch of the 6D which was really the direct replacement for the 5DII.

I would love for Canon to keep the original 6D around as the entry level FF, but I doubt if they will.
keep in mind that Canon is shutting down the fabrication line that made the old sensors and going with newer (finer) lithography..... the old parts are just not going to be available....
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...small it may be but it might still be to heavy to carry around on the end of small bodies like the 750/760/upcoming800D i.e. risk of damage to the camera mount.

Not a chance. It's not that weak. It's the sort of unfair reputation that seems to go around with lower end camera gear, like weak mounts, crappy plastic bodies, zero weathering ability, flaky flippy screens and onboard flashes, etc.

Even a 5DIII mount can fail - see http://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/23634/how-strong-is-the-tripod-mount-on-the-bottom-of-a-dslr

I always use both the camera and lens mounts on a Black Rapid for proper security.

ps the mount on the 100-400mm II is fixed to the ring by 4 tiny, teeny weeny, screws. I had to buy a Japanese compatible screwdriver to tighten mine when they worked loose/

i think the discussion is about the lens mount, not the tripod mount..

to eliminate your worries..use this
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Canon General / Re: Your uncomfortable photography, WHY?
« Last post by slclick on Today at 10:54:54 AM »
I did a bit of boudoir a couple years ago. That was a bit difficult, in what ways just use your imagination... YMMV
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Canon General / Re: Your uncomfortable photography, WHY?
« Last post by mnclayshooter on Today at 10:50:54 AM »
What type of photography that make you feel uncomfortable with? Why?

Images of the less fortunate ones. Although some stories need to be told.

I'm always dismayed when I see people fawn over a photo of a homeless person as though the photographer set up the shot. Just bothers me to see that kind of reaction to a photo of suffering. "The light on the old woman's face is perfect. Nice shot!" That sort of thing seems so sterile and touching on the wrong subject as though the person weren't really a person, but something to be objectified.

That's an interesting take.  I don't agree entirely... mainly because it appears that two concepts have been merged into one... photographic art and compassion/ethics.

Showing/capturing emotion through excellent photography is what true portrait photography is about.  Discussing technical merits of a photo, ie, lighting, is appropriate among photographers or photo enthusiasts. 

I think, and I don't want to put words in your mouth - but if this is where you were headed, I might agree a bit more... What would help satisfy the ethical dilemma is that if the photo somehow earns the photographer money, that some portion, if not most of it goes back to help the old woman (or at least supports a charity that could help the old woman).  I don't think the technical photographic discussion objectifies the woman, I think it objectifies the photograph in an art-critique sort of way.  The subjective part of the of the photo is still very much the woman and if the photo evokes an emotional response that makes you feel compassion for the woman, the photographer has done his/her job.

Just my two cents.  Feel free to tear it apart.     
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EOS Bodies / Re: Where is the Canon EOS 6D Mark II?
« Last post by hbr on Today at 10:47:49 AM »
I think a change like this could leave a gap where the Nikon D610 is, i.e. those that want FF for the minimum price.

Could Canon keep making the original 6D?

Good question.  Whereas the 6D2 all but certainly spells the end for the 5D3, I'm less sure about the 6D1.  The 6D2 is such a feature set bump over the 6D1 that they almost sit in different market spaces.  One could see a near-future (say 2018) in which the FF line is:

Budget:  6D1
Mid-level:  6D2

All-Purpose Pro: 5D4
High Res Pro:  5DS/R
Flagship:  1DX2

But does Canon want those two red line items to coexist?  I think they certainly could given how much better the 6D2 is spec'd to be, but perhaps Canon wants to take the 6D1 off the board to prevent a still-in-production $1000-1200 FF rig (albeit a dated one) from ever becoming a market expectation.

When Canon launched the 5DIII, they did not discontinue/EOL the 5DII.  Rather, they kept it active for ~6 months (IIRC), until the launch of the 6D which was really the direct replacement for the 5DII.

I would love for Canon to keep the original 6D around as the entry level FF, but I doubt if they will.
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EOS Bodies / Re: Where is the Canon EOS 6D Mark II?
« Last post by slclick on Today at 10:46:08 AM »
I really hope the changes to the 6D line are small. Small but effective.
I disagree that it needs to be a 7D2 equivalent in a FF. It is what it is. It is not an action,high  fps, great tracking, must work with all lenses product.
It should stay in the market where it started. Entry level FF, low light leader, solid, smaller than the rest of the FF lines, a good feature set but nothing too extravagant. Great menus and easy to configure for stills and minor video work. No 4k. Not too many af points.
 Keep the launch price at $1999 USD and continue the momentum the 6D had.
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EOS Bodies / Re: Where is the Canon EOS 6D Mark II?
« Last post by ahsanford on Today at 10:45:07 AM »
When Canon launched the 5DIII, they did not discontinue/EOL the 5DII.  Rather, they kept it active for ~6 months (IIRC), until the launch of the 6D which was really the direct replacement for the 5DII.

Correct.  I posted the same on page 1 of this thread, Neuro.

The question is:  do both the 6D1 and 5D3 get discontinued after the 6D2 is released, or will the 6D1 live on?

- A
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EOS Bodies / Re: Where is the Canon EOS 6D Mark II?
« Last post by hbr on Today at 10:44:15 AM »
What put me off 6D1 was the incompatible AF on f/8. Some of us have to put up with smaller aperture lenses, so f/8 on several (more than one) focus points would be good.

Agreed. I purchased the 400mm f/5.6 to capture images of all the birds in my back yard and was so disappointed that the 6D would not auto focus when I used the lens with a 1.4 TC. I ended up buying a 7D II solely for that reason. I love the 7D II but the image quality is not the same as the 6D.

The auto focus system was the major limitation of the 6D.
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try again. to make a valid point. without personal attack on me.

@NEURO: you seem to be leaking  :o ... always more bully S___ coming out of your mouth, asshole. ;D

Well, I guess if you lack the wit to make a valid point, you can always fall back on vulgarity.   ::)
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