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Re: Hands-on with the Canon EOS M3
« Reply #45 on: March 25, 2015, 12:11:07 PM »
another underrated wildcard for either the M series (adapted) or SL1/100D:
Tamron's 55-200mm lens, has no IS but weighs next to nothing, goes on eBay for next to nothing and squishes down to just a few inches - the optics are wonderful in real-world use (the 18-200 is apparently poor but the 55-200 is rarely mentioned but is ace!)
Weighs nothing, takes up no space, costs pennies... Consider it, maybe? :)

Back on the M3: Any thoughts on sensor performance* yet?! I'm very curious how this might resolve details for birding/wildlife and if ISO performance is going anywhere anymore :)
*does the 760D thumb-twiddle, suppressed excitement dance*
oh, is the 760D on display then?!

*modified from autocorrect asking about 'Sensor Repentance'?! oh, well...
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Re: Hands-on with the Canon EOS M3
« Reply #45 on: March 25, 2015, 12:11:07 PM »

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Re: Hands-on with the Canon EOS M3
« Reply #46 on: March 26, 2015, 06:45:48 AM »
im keeping a close eye on this. the 5ds 54 MP FF sensor if worked in APS-C mode, gives the same resolution. since the m3 and 5ds both use same/similar processor and pixel density are the same, in theory it should give the same DR/ISO performance. exciting time. 

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Re: Hands-on with the Canon EOS M3
« Reply #47 on: March 26, 2015, 01:00:50 PM »
Looks really good to me.  Can you take some high ISO shots when you get a chance?  In a low light situation?  Please also post the ISO and camera settings if you can so we can put this awesome quality into perspective.

I'd like to see if it holds up to ISO 1600, 3200, 6400.

Here is a ISO1600 & 3200. Forgot to take one at 6400, because I was hungry and my food came.  ;D

f/8.0 1/8 ISO1600 28mm


f/7.1 1/8 ISO3200 28mm


Btw, if anyone comes across the manual in English, please let me know. Mine only came with Japanese and the Canon Europe website hasn't posted it yet. Haven't figured out how to access the camera's wifi capabilities.

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Re: Hands-on with the Canon EOS M3
« Reply #48 on: March 26, 2015, 01:30:18 PM »
« Last Edit: March 26, 2015, 01:34:06 PM by privatebydesign »
Too often we lose sight of the fact that photography is about capturing light, if we have the ability to take control of that light then we grow exponentially as photographers. More often than not the image is not about lens speed, sensor size, MP's or AF, it is about the light.

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Re: Hands-on with the Canon EOS M3
« Reply #49 on: March 26, 2015, 02:36:00 PM »
I'm pretty happy with the original M. The biggest problem to me is the lack of manual dials. What I'm interested to know is whether there's significant AF improvement and how the evf performs. But I preordered it anyway. The manual dials alone is worth an upgrade to me.
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Re: Hands-on with the Canon EOS M3
« Reply #50 on: March 26, 2015, 03:13:20 PM »
Amazon Japan did an authorization on my CC on March 24th. The original pre-order ETA was MAr 31st. Is it now confirmed as shipping in Japan? Is it early?

I have yet to receive an email from Amazon Japan that they have shipped it to Tenso.com on my bahlf as of yet.

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Re: Hands-on with the Canon EOS M3
« Reply #51 on: March 26, 2015, 03:40:50 PM »
Totally missed the email from Amazon Japan. My M3 shipped on Mar 24th and arrived today at Tenso moments ago (so says Amazon tracking). The Tenso portal is still not registering the package on my behalf.

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Re: Hands-on with the Canon EOS M3
« Reply #51 on: March 26, 2015, 03:40:50 PM »

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Re: Hands-on with the Canon EOS M3
« Reply #52 on: March 26, 2015, 08:12:34 PM »
http://gdlp01.c-wss.com/gds/7/0300017917/01/eosm3-cu-en.pdf

WiFi is section 7, page 115-136.

Thanks! I finally was able to try out the remote shooting and remote viewing function. A bit tricky to setup at first, but pretty cool once it is.

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Re: Hands-on with the Canon EOS M3
« Reply #53 on: March 26, 2015, 09:49:30 PM »
1600 looks pretty clean but the 3200 is starting to look a bit spongy in the shadows.  Might be the jpg compression and then the re-compression done by the forum.  Not bad though.  Would still like to see 6400 sometime in low light with something in the background that's really dark, almost black.

Thanks for taking the time to show us what it can do.  I'll be looking to upgrade my M1.

Looks really good to me.  Can you take some high ISO shots when you get a chance?  In a low light situation?  Please also post the ISO and camera settings if you can so we can put this awesome quality into perspective.

I'd like to see if it holds up to ISO 1600, 3200, 6400.

Here is a ISO1600 & 3200. Forgot to take one at 6400, because I was hungry and my food came.  ;D

f/8.0 1/8 ISO1600 28mm


f/7.1 1/8 ISO3200 28mm


Btw, if anyone comes across the manual in English, please let me know. Mine only came with Japanese and the Canon Europe website hasn't posted it yet. Haven't figured out how to access the camera's wifi capabilities.

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Re: Hands-on with the Canon EOS M3
« Reply #54 on: March 27, 2015, 02:47:23 PM »
Looks really good to me.  Can you take some high ISO shots when you get a chance?  In a low light situation?  Please also post the ISO and camera settings if you can so we can put this awesome quality into perspective.

I'd like to see if it holds up to ISO 1600, 3200, 6400.

Here is a ISO1600 & 3200. Forgot to take one at 6400, because I was hungry and my food came.  ;D

f/8.0 1/8 ISO1600 28mm


f/7.1 1/8 ISO3200 28mm


Btw, if anyone comes across the manual in English, please let me know. Mine only came with Japanese and the Canon Europe website hasn't posted it yet. Haven't figured out how to access the camera's wifi capabilities.

Thanks for the shots!

I'm very curious to if they've improved shadow performance and dynamic range at low ISO's.  Would you be able to take a dark ISO 100 shot in RAW and bring up the shadows and see if that's improved over the 7d mk ii?  Thank you!!

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Re: Hands-on with the Canon EOS M3
« Reply #55 on: March 28, 2015, 10:41:21 AM »
Typically with digital cameras, low ISO is used to preserve highlight detail and high ISO to preserve shadow detail.  I doubt there will be much improvement over the 7d2.

Most people don't realize this fact and expect the sensors to perform equally well at all ISOs. 

Magic Lantern dual-ISO deals with this issue by using high and low ISO to record images then combining the best of both to create a low noise high dr image.  However ML only works with the M1 right now.

We typically expect more and more from new cameras but if we keep the above ISO rule in mind when shooting subjects we can compensate for DR issues by selecting the proper ISO first.

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Re: Hands-on with the Canon EOS M3
« Reply #56 on: March 28, 2015, 09:58:46 PM »
That's certainly true, but there are times where having that dynamic range is really useful.  For example, if you have a back-lit landscape shot where you don't want the highlights to be overexposed because they tell an interesting story.  In this case, it would be best to expose such that the highlights aren't maxed, and bring up the details in the shadows.  And it's disappointing that the sony sensors are capable of better dynamic range. 

Sure, magic lantern does help, but there are certainly artifacts from the trick they are using to increase dynamic range.  Plus, I prefer to run my cameras in stock mode. 

Typically with digital cameras, low ISO is used to preserve highlight detail and high ISO to preserve shadow detail.  I doubt there will be much improvement over the 7d2.

Most people don't realize this fact and expect the sensors to perform equally well at all ISOs. 

Magic Lantern dual-ISO deals with this issue by using high and low ISO to record images then combining the best of both to create a low noise high dr image.  However ML only works with the M1 right now.

We typically expect more and more from new cameras but if we keep the above ISO rule in mind when shooting subjects we can compensate for DR issues by selecting the proper ISO first.

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Re: Hands-on with the Canon EOS M3
« Reply #56 on: March 28, 2015, 09:58:46 PM »