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Re: Are there 39mp & 50mp+ Test Bodies in the Wild? [CR1]
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2012, 12:21:48 PM »
"Foveon type non-bayerless"??

And, wouldn't it be playing dirty and competitive, rather than nice and friendly (which they effectively are now) with Sony and Sigma if they integrated 16-bit ADC with a layered sensor?

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Re: Are there 39mp & 50mp+ Test Bodies in the Wild? [CR1]
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2012, 12:21:48 PM »

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Re: Are there 39mp & 50mp+ Test Bodies in the Wild? [CR1]
« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2012, 12:37:39 PM »
Awesome... on a typical 4 day job I shoot 10,000 photos. So at 50mp each... it's a cluster f¥¢k.

I'll stick with 1Ds3 and 1Dx.

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Re: Are there 39mp & 50mp+ Test Bodies in the Wild? [CR1]
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2012, 12:53:38 PM »
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I have no doubt the big megapixel DSLRs are in the pipeline, but so far things are pointing to the professional market instead of the consumer market.

If it's true that the high MP Canons will launch in the $9k price range, I think it's safe to say we'll be entering the Nikon era for some many years to come.

The Canon ship seems to be lost at sea.

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Re: Are there 39mp & 50mp+ Test Bodies in the Wild? [CR1]
« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2012, 12:57:12 PM »
Awesome... on a typical 4 day job I shoot 10,000 photos. So at 50mp each... it's a cluster f¥¢k.

I'll stick with 1Ds3 and 1Dx.

+1  I am with ya!

Remember a time when on the audio side we had those Boomboxes with ever increasing Watts numbers plastered in big fonts on the speakers themselves? 10W, 20W, 45W, "100000000" W ;) While the mass market was being cluster f¥¢ked (to use your term), the audiophiles opted for Denon and other high-end brands with lower "apparent" specs but true "Hi-fidelity" and listening experience. This is why even today the Bose table top, simple as it is, costs more than a Sony audio receiver you can pick up at the department store.

1DX is worth every penny. I liken the the need for 50MP on a 35mm sensor to those who bought into the boomboxes with "100W" from each speaker. Mind you, I will buy it if the price is right cuz I can use one when I am doing yard work for easy listening ;). But if I am really in need for such high MP on my camera and committed to landscapes, and willing to pay a premium price, I'll be looking at Medium formats.

Marketing wise, 50MP+ on a small 35mm format makes no sense at least for the near future. It comes down to the number of takers with that kinda money, whom we have to believe, will conveniently not consider medium format at that kinda money. Non starter. :)
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Re: Are there 39mp & 50mp+ Test Bodies in the Wild? [CR1]
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2012, 12:59:31 PM »
"Foveon type non-bayerless"??

And, wouldn't it be playing dirty and competitive, rather than nice and friendly (which they effectively are now) with Sony and Sigma if they integrated 16-bit ADC with a layered sensor?

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Re: Are there 39mp & 50mp+ Test Bodies in the Wild? [CR1]
« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2012, 01:00:36 PM »
Just curious, what would you require 46MP for?

Later cropping.

I've actually been asked to produce an 8x10 head-shot from a group photo after one of the people in the photo passed away later.  That's some heavy cropping!

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Re: Are there 39mp & 50mp+ Test Bodies in the Wild? [CR1]
« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2012, 01:03:28 PM »
I shoot 500-1500 images at a time.  I bought a D800, and after my first 500 image shoot, I was faced with days to process them, even with a fast pc and plenty of memory.  A super pc might cut the time by 20%, but that would still not be something I'd want to face.  The idea of buying a high mp camera only to use sraw seems silly to me.  Eventually, computers may catchup, but for now, 50mp raw files would be for those who only take a few shots and want to spend a hour processing each one.

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« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2012, 01:03:28 PM »

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Re: Are there 39mp & 50mp+ Test Bodies in the Wild? [CR1]
« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2012, 01:04:24 PM »
Just curious, what would you require 46MP for?

Later cropping.

I've actually been asked to produce an 8x10 head-shot from a group photo after one of the people in the photo passed away later.  That's some heavy cropping!

I hope Canon is not betting on that small and that specific a market. Its like betting on finding that 5'10" supermodel with all her teeth from Alabama not related to her Cousin in other ways ;)
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Re: Are there 39mp & 50mp+ Test Bodies in the Wild? [CR1]
« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2012, 01:29:32 PM »
Just curious, what would you require 46MP for?

Later cropping.

I've actually been asked to produce an 8x10 head-shot from a group photo after one of the people in the photo passed away later.  That's some heavy cropping!

I hope Canon is not betting on that small and that specific a market. Its like betting on finding that 5'10" supermodel with all her teeth from Alabama not related to her Cousin in other ways ;)

Oh, I've had that need a lot, and in lots of other ways as well.  Some of it is engineering photography, where you can never have too much detail, and you aren't going to print any of the shots.  Heck, I spent all last week shooting with a T2i and a 7D in situations where having this capability would have helped me a good bit.
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Re: Are there 39mp & 50mp+ Test Bodies in the Wild? [CR1]
« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2012, 01:42:11 PM »
Yeah, my computer is nearing the end of its life for today's heavy graphics work.

It's just a matter of time (of which you won't have any if you're a pro), but for the rest of us a slower computer is still ok - when rendering focus stacks I'll queue them and let it render overnight on my dual-core 2ghz laptop :->

Pls explain term "loop logic", it sounds cool!

:-> I looked up the real English term, it's "circular logic" - that's when the premise of a thesis is also the result.

An example is your thesis "amateurs don't need high mp cameras" - it cannot be disproven since there aren't any amateur high mp cameras (well, until the d800 that is, and that seems to sell), and the result of such a thesis (if adopted by Canon) is that there won't be any, apparently proving the thesis.

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Re: Are there 39mp & 50mp+ Test Bodies in the Wild? [CR1]
« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2012, 02:13:14 PM »
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a second report from Asia about a camera well over 50mp

Thats crazy! I was expecting a camera with a MP count in the 40s range. However if they did release a camera that high, the would also need to make something in the middle, such as a 39er. However, the 50MP camera would put canon at the top pf the non-medium format camera manufacturer... unless its a medium format camera!
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Re: Are there 39mp & 50mp+ Test Bodies in the Wild? [CR1]
« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2012, 02:18:12 PM »
Am happy that this is in the 1d style bodies. As I believe such hi mpx is for hi end use and pretty useless for general photographers.

you believe wrong, even for reach alone, that is huge, give it 32-40MP density and crop modes so as to not waste file space, and you'd toss a lot more detail onto reach limited wildlife shots and not fill up HDs any faster, for starters
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Re: Are there 39mp & 50mp+ Test Bodies in the Wild? [CR1]
« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2012, 02:19:26 PM »
By the way, I'm very unhappy they're 1D-style bodies, as I'd never own a body like that.  I have very rare need for a portrait grip and don't want to carry one around all day when I don't need it.  Further, the 1D bodies are too large for my hands.  My 5D fits my hand like it was made for it.

+1

although keep in mind that they did stress they were just pure test bodies and the rumor could be entirely fake too

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Re: Are there 39mp & 50mp+ Test Bodies in the Wild? [CR1]
« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2012, 02:19:26 PM »

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Re: Are there 39mp & 50mp+ Test Bodies in the Wild? [CR1]
« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2012, 02:20:47 PM »
Obviously there are cases and assignments where 50mp would be beneficial...

the point is that they are rather specialized or few and far between.

For the shooters that need 50mp or think they need 50mp... go for it.

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Re: Are there 39mp & 50mp+ Test Bodies in the Wild? [CR1]
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2012, 02:20:57 PM »
Forget 50mp... just let me swap out my 5d3 sensor for something with NO AA filter... 

While Canon is at it... please play nice with Sony and Sigma and get us a 16DR with Foveon type non-bayerless 22mp sensor with 5d3 type high ISO performance. 


Wake up...   what a wet dream that was...

5D3 without AA filter would be pretty moire and aliased though no? it's only 20D photosite density

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Re: Are there 39mp & 50mp+ Test Bodies in the Wild? [CR1]
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2012, 02:20:57 PM »