Forget the scores. I shot all of these college football photos at ISO 8,000, f/2.8, 1/1,250 sec on my 1DX.http://www.herald-dispatch.com/multimedia/galleries/musports/x746103246/Gallery-Marshall-vs-UCF-game-actionHigh school stadiums are usually much worse. The night shots in this gallery were at ISO 16,000, 1/640-1/800 sec, f/2.8. http://www.herald-dispatch.com/multimedia/galleries/sports/x1363969376/Gallery-Class-AAA-Region-IV-soccer-championships-at-Cabell-MidlandSorry about the compression but our website is a little behind the times. Anyway I love the 1DX and everything it does. I don't touch the 1D MK IV anymore but still keep my 5D MK II for wide angles below ISO 3,200.
at 500 px even my old casio looks good. it´s not that it´s not good enough.. it´s normal to want the BEST for your money.so you see what you pay and you see the DXO score.... and then you look at nikon.of course the DXO score does not tell you about the whole camera... just the sensor.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to down Nikon or Sony. They make great sensors! I also like Nikon's EC during auto ISO in full manual mode. But overall, the sensor is only a fraction of the camera. Why then, can I shoot at much higher ISO's and print 8 x 10's with minimal NR, at ISO 25,600 with the 1DX and I cannot do that with a D4? Why? That is all I'd like to know. In this regard, the DxO score means nothing to me at all and I go with whatever works in the field, which in this case the ONLY choice I have to do so is the 1DX. If the D4 and D800 sensors are better, who the hell cares if they don't produce shots and I have to pack up and go home in the 4th quarter?
guys, is anyone disappointed with score would like to exchange your 1dx or hassy to some superior camera like nikon d7100? with additional charge from your side, of course
Sorry to get such a rise out of you guys. It's strange to me how different stills people are vs. video people. Many video people are company agnostic for the most part. They tend to just go with what is the best camera out (probably because many use manual lenses so the investment in one company isn't quite as heavy). Stills people are ardent defenders of the faith. You are either Canon or Nikon, and you guys will defend your company to death. Saying something bad about Canon (or Nikon on the "other" site) is like insulting your mother, or probably worse.
For anyone wondering why they waited nearly a month after adding 1D X sensor support to DxO Optical Pro to release the 1D X scores, I'd guess it's because they knew there'd be a bit of buzz around these results, and they wanted to drive traffic to their sites now that DxO Optics Pro 8 has just been released. Quote from: jaayres20 on October 31, 2012, 11:26:47 AMHow can they rate the D800 better at high ISO noise? Because the Sports/Low Light Score is based on images downsampled to 8 MP, and when you downsample a 36 MP image to 8 MP, you average out more noise than when you downsample an 18 MP image to 8 MP.
How can they rate the D800 better at high ISO noise?
So would you want a camera that has better DR, or one that has better AF, ISO & FPS?
Quote from: han_solo82 on October 31, 2012, 01:56:31 PMWell that's exactly the problem my friend, their score system isn't about the whole picture of the sensor, but that's what gets advertised. But hey, they say it themselves : "DxOMark is the trusted industry standard for camera and lens independent image quality measurements and ratings". So we should trust their ratings! You call yourself a lab, then give me QE vs wavelength as standard, read noise and Full capacity well at different ISO, and SNR at different illumination and ISO and stop advertising camera's sensor with a meaningless score... Well maybe that's just me and my physics anyway...Please no familiarities here – this is at least impolite not to say more)))As for DXO – we are not discussing what they are claiming themselves – just results of their measurements.And forget about SCORES - when you see at measurement curves you need to “FEEL” sensor performance across different conditions the same way as you “feel” image histogram in the camera or image processing S/W.Do you give this histogram any scores to better work with the image? If you are telling that you studying physics – think of Fourier or Laplace transforms that give you information about physical process in other domains/dimensions which helps better understand the properties of the process and work with it. And I do not see any point discussing this further
Well that's exactly the problem my friend, their score system isn't about the whole picture of the sensor, but that's what gets advertised. But hey, they say it themselves : "DxOMark is the trusted industry standard for camera and lens independent image quality measurements and ratings". So we should trust their ratings! You call yourself a lab, then give me QE vs wavelength as standard, read noise and Full capacity well at different ISO, and SNR at different illumination and ISO and stop advertising camera's sensor with a meaningless score... Well maybe that's just me and my physics anyway...
If you had a camera that had the DR of the human eye but only shot one frame every 10 minutes at ISO 100 only and was only manual focus...