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Re: Canon 24-70 II Or Primes Particularly 50MM 1.2L
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2012, 01:11:40 PM »
Neuro...I think this lens is well worth for you to give it a try. I have a feeling you going to sell your 24-105

I'm sure I'd like the 24-70 II, in fact, I had planned to get it next.  But I've been doing a bit of shooting indoors in the evenings with the 35L and 85L II, and I'm usually around f/2 and high ISO (6400 and up), and for many of the shots the 35L is too wide and the 85L too long.  The 24-70 II would be convenient, I'm just not sure it's fast enough.  If I need to use the 600EX-RT, f/4 would work, too.

Eventually, I'll likely have both the 50L and the 24-70 II, it's just a matter of sequence.  The 50L may be more useful in fall/winter indoors. 

The other 'problem' with the 24-70mm range is that I use 105mm a lot:

Love the histogram of usage lengths. I would like to make one of these for my shots. How did you obtain the data? Is there an easy way to obtain it so I don't have to do it manually? Thanks for any advice.

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« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2012, 01:51:47 PM »
I couldn't be without my 50L and will be looking to acquire the 24mm 1.4 next as opposed to going for the 24-70 II.
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« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2012, 02:03:33 PM »
Love the histogram of usage lengths. I would like to make one of these for my shots. How did you obtain the data? Is there an easy way to obtain it so I don't have to do it manually? Thanks for any advice.

I use a Mac freeware app called PhotoStats, but I downloaded it a long time ago, not sure it's still available. There's an Aperture add-on called Aperture Inspector, and I'm sure there are Windows apps, too.
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Re: Canon 24-70 II Or Primes Particularly 50MM 1.2L
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2012, 02:24:52 PM »
I just finished this review of the 50L. You may want to read its pros & cons.

http://ramonlperez.tumblr.com/post/34906285033/fast-prime-shoot-out-pt-2-50mm-1-2l-review

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« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2012, 10:02:45 PM »
The 50 1.2 is a very useful lens specially in low light, but the 24-70 or the 24-105 would be also nice to have. It looks you might need a zoom unless you do no mind changing lenses. On the other side, prime lenses are a little bit more sharp.

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Re: Canon 24-70 II Or Primes Particularly 50MM 1.2L
« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2012, 01:09:38 AM »
I have used the 24-70 and own the 50L personally I shoot a TON of low light and really don't like killing the people with flash so I constantly shoot around 1.8-2.2 and get AWESOME results with my 5D3. Now the 24-70 is a better all around lens but if you are willing to do a little more work in your framing of an image the 50L is the way to go.
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« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2012, 07:39:10 AM »
I sold all my zooms after changing to FF and adding the 50L to my kit.

You didn't say what body you are using but if the lenses you listed are all L glass, the 24-70II will probably not impress you as much as you think it might, other than convenience.
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« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2012, 09:39:37 AM »
im using a 1dx

i already have 24,35,85l and 70-200.

im thinkng of selling the 24 and get a 24-70 or get a 50l.
im quite torn on what to get,  i thnk ill miss the 24, its giving out really good images,

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« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2012, 10:26:06 AM »
im using a 1dx

i already have 24,35,85l and 70-200.

im thinkng of selling the 24 and get a 24-70 or get a 50l.
im quite torn on what to get,  i thnk ill miss the 24, its giving out really good images,

Why do you want to sell the 24LII, and replace it with the 50L/1.2.....is it because the 24L limits the type of photography you're doing, and the 50L will give you more flexibility with the type of photos you can take: landscape, portrait, street, sports?

The reason I ask is because I'm considering purchasing the 24LII, but I feel the use will be limited to just landscape photography, where as the 50L would cover a variety of photography uses, therefore I will use the the 50L a lot more than I would the 24LII.

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Re: Canon 24-70 II Or Primes Particularly 50MM 1.2L
« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2012, 10:40:30 AM »
I really don't understand the question :) I want both, not to mention your camera...

I tried the 24-70 II on a 1DX and it was an awsome combo. the 50L is however a brilliant lens which gives you creative opportunities that the 24-70 will not give you. Hence I will get both, I just need some persuasive work towards my better half :)
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« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2012, 12:04:14 PM »
i have to sell 24 if ill get 24-70 ii so i can have the money....
lol,  the only thing that is stopping me from getting 1.2 is that according to many people, its not good on higher apertures.... im also looking at the sigma. on front page of CR there might be a new 50 coming soon, so i guess ill wait out a little.

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« Reply #26 on: November 04, 2012, 08:07:55 PM »
I understand the need to raise funds for the zoom, but at the loss of the 24LII?!? That I think is a mistake. Being that the cost of the new 24-70 is steep, you may want to try it before you buy it.

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« Reply #27 on: November 04, 2012, 08:33:47 PM »
I understand the need to raise funds for the zoom, but at the loss of the 24LII?!? That I think is a mistake. Being that the cost of the new 24-70 is steep, you may want to try it before you buy it.

How do you know? have you ever try 24-70 II? I tried 24mm and currently own 24-70 II....IT'S NOT A MISTAKE.
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« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2012, 12:47:15 PM »
I understand the need to raise funds for the zoom, but at the loss of the 24LII?!? That I think is a mistake. Being that the cost of the new 24-70 is steep, you may want to try it before you buy it.

How do you know? have you ever try 24-70 II? I tried 24mm and currently own 24-70 II....IT'S NOT A MISTAKE.

A big misconception is that primes are sharper than zooms.  While that may have once been the case, it's not anymore for all primes.  The new 24-70L II lens performs just as well as the 24L, 35L, and 50L from f/2.8 and narrower.  The advantage of the 3 primes I listed are of course IQ and also wider aperture.  But if you never shoot wider than f/2.8, the 24-70L II can replace those lenses.  I kept my 24L because I use it at f/2, as do I with my 50 f/1.4.  I sold the 35.
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Re: Canon 24-70 II Or Primes Particularly 50MM 1.2L
« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2012, 02:48:59 PM »
Until this year when i got the 24L The 24-70 was a workhorse! I bought the 24LII because when going thru my images 24 and 70 were my most used focal lengths on the 24-70L F2.8 and the 1DM3 with a 24-70 was bangin out an average of 1300 images per wedding. Now If i was only FF i'd be using the 35mm most as the focal length on a 1dm3 is around 31mm. On occasion putting the 24 on the 5dm3 is necessary but not often. I also went with 24 rather than 35 because in the long run having wider is better than pressing against walls as far as you can to make things fit at 35mm focal lengths. When you need it its there. The 24L is so dreamy, I really like it. It is now taking 1/3 of all my wedding images.
For you selling it and spending $1000- $1300 just to get a good zoom seems like it doesn't add up. Plus, you will not be able to go below F2.8 with the 24-70. When its dark it can be a light saver, and a life saver lol.
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