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Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS & EF 35 f/2 IS
« Reply #60 on: November 05, 2012, 11:00:47 AM »
The original Japanese site stated the prices of the lenses: the 24-70 f/4L IS costs slightly more than the 70-300 f/4-5.6L IS (US$1600), and the 35 f/2 IS price is about the same as the EF-S 10-22 (US$850)

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« Reply #61 on: November 05, 2012, 11:09:02 AM »
If the price is around $ or €1600  for the 24-70 f/4 , it had better be optically superior than 24-105 (and Tammy 24-70 f/2.8 ) by quite a bit. Otherwise it is not a difficult choice for homo economicus...

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Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS & EF 35 f/2 IS
« Reply #62 on: November 05, 2012, 11:14:33 AM »
I'm none too excited about either of these lenses.  I already own the mark 1 version of the 24-70mm 2.8, and don't have any plans in the near future to upgrade, since it's an extra $1,000.  I get that the new 24-70mm f/4 is likely to be angled towards a kit lens with the 6D/5Dm3, but I doubt many will buy this lens outright.

Wish it would have been a 14-24mm, 135mm II, or 50mm II.
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Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS & EF 35 f/2 IS
« Reply #63 on: November 05, 2012, 11:16:18 AM »
i disagree that the 35mm reach are worthless. 24-105 and 100-400 gives a coverage far into tele reach, if one can trade fastness for price and weight.

if the 70-300L is the successor oft the 100-400 then a slower 24-70 makes sense.

Otherwise its just less lens for more money which gives us something new and canon more income. The same as for a 35 2.0is or even 35 2.8 is for almost the price of the old 35 1.4

As reasonable good superzooms from Nikon show, it should be possible to make a lens with more reach with the same IQ as before, but as long as marketing says what we have to want and they spend money better for advertising than for R&D it will run the oposite direction

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Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS & EF 35 f/2 IS
« Reply #64 on: November 05, 2012, 11:25:41 AM »
Pricing at $850 for the 24-70 f4 is wishful thinking.... 

This thing might be closer to $1700.

Have you guys not seen recent Lens pricing? They want to make more money and the 24-105 is perhaps their best selling EF lens... if they can migrate the users to a 2x priced 24-70 F4L then they will do it. The new lens should have better resolution and contrast compared to the 24-105 which would remain as the budget general purpose till it disappears or becomes the replacement for the 28-135mm

"Eventually" the price of the 24-70 F4L may drop a bit, but not for a while...   They will Milk it!
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Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS & EF 35 f/2 IS
« Reply #65 on: November 05, 2012, 11:29:04 AM »
The 24-105 is a great walkaround- 70mm just isn't enough reach on FF for that purpose.

24-70 is a good range for indoor events, but especially for people shots, 2.8 is better given that often times, they're moving around and faster shutter speeds are needed anyway.

I don't change lenses out in the field- I usually just pick one lens for the day and stick to it. Minimizes accidents, dust on sensor, etc.

If this lens were small and under ~$700 I'd consider it for the 60D. But doesn't sound like the price will be anywhere near that reasonable. Meh.

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« Reply #66 on: November 05, 2012, 11:31:57 AM »
as i read it (yen price) the new 24-70mm f4 is will cost around 1700-1800 euro here in germany.

well.....

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« Reply #66 on: November 05, 2012, 11:31:57 AM »

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« Reply #67 on: November 05, 2012, 11:50:49 AM »
as i read it (yen price) the new 24-70mm f4 is will cost around 1700-1800 euro here in germany.

well.....
I believe you but it's unrealistic to expect that this lens will sell at that ridiculous price. This is expensive even for a f/2.8 version...



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« Reply #68 on: November 05, 2012, 11:58:25 AM »

I believe you but it's unrealistic to expect that this lens will sell at that ridiculous price. This is expensive even for a f/2.8 version...

lets hope so..

the YEN price translates into ~ $1800... and from the past experience the price here in euro is the same as in dollar for the USA.  ::)

canons pricing has gone to ridiculous levels. so i would not rule 1700 euro for this lens out.

maybe canon is going the leica way.
i really don´t know what they are thinking.

but i do know that the new prices are driving new customers away from DSLR´s.
 
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Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS & EF 35 f/2 IS
« Reply #69 on: November 05, 2012, 12:05:36 PM »
The original Japanese site stated the prices of the lenses: the 24-70 f/4L IS costs slightly more than the 70-300 f/4-5.6L IS (US$1600), and the 35 f/2 IS price is about the same as the EF-S 10-22 (US$850)

Where are you getting theses prices? Can you post a link? Did it quote a price in yen? If so how much Yen? Thanks.
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Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS & EF 35 f/2 IS
« Reply #70 on: November 05, 2012, 12:06:30 PM »
Am I the only one who is actually excited about this lens? The macro bit is what sold me. Provided this new lens has nice IQ and reasonable price (which by all means it should), It can effectively provide a small and light replacement for my 100L macro and 15-85. Paired with a 10-22 or 17-40, it seems like an excellent and versatile lens for travel photography and macro work.
Yes, a Zoom Macro, with a 0.7 magnification.  Thats why it has Hybrid IS. 
Looking at their prices, I'd say they equate to
24-70 f/4L   -   $1300
35mm f/2 IS -  $900
Thats about what I'd expect, +/- $100.
 
The price is on the website refered to in the CR posting.
 
I estimated the US price by looking at the US price of a few Canon lenses that sell for about the same prices (in Yen) in Japan.  145,000 and 74,000 yen.
The 135mmL sells for a little more, (151,200 yen), for example, while the 28mm IS sells for about 59800 Yen and the current Canon 35mm f/2 sells for about 31800.  That gives a realistic estimate of what it will sell for in US dollars.
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Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS & EF 35 f/2 IS
« Reply #71 on: November 05, 2012, 12:07:18 PM »

Where are you getting theses prices? Can you post a link? Did it quote a price in yen? If so how much Yen? Thanks.


¥145 000 (including tax)

¥74 000 (including tax)

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« Reply #72 on: November 05, 2012, 12:09:38 PM »

I believe you but it's unrealistic to expect that this lens will sell at that ridiculous price. This is expensive even for a f/2.8 version...

lets hope so..

the YEN price translates into ~ $1800... and from the past experience the price here in euro is the same as in dollar for the USA.  ::)

canons pricing has gone to ridiculous levels. so i would not rule 1700 euro for this lens out.

maybe canon is going the leica way.
i really don´t know what they are thinking.

but i do know that the new prices are driving new customers away from DSLR´s.
 

Indeed! Though, if Canon wants to go Leica way, perhaps they should consider offering Leica quality?..  ::)




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Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS & EF 35 f/2 IS
« Reply #73 on: November 05, 2012, 12:11:00 PM »
i believe the reason why canon dont bring out 24-70 f2.8 IS L or 35mm f1.4 II L. it got to do with strong yen.  just imho

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« Reply #74 on: November 05, 2012, 12:17:02 PM »
just call me carnac  ;D
http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=9767.0;topicseen

The 35 might be nice if it had L build [weather sealed] and dropped the IS
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