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Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS & EF 35 f/2 IS Preorders
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2012, 11:44:10 PM »
so much for my prediction for a cheap, light full frame kit lens! Hopefully it has the IQ to back up that price tag, as the Tamron 24-70/2.8 IS beats it by a stop of light and 5 years of warranty. The purported macro capabilities are interesting, but I'm going to take that with a grain of salt until I see it on an official spec sheet. Even so, not sure that would make me pick that over the Tamron.

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« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2012, 11:44:36 PM »
Canon USA has the MTF charts up on their site :

http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/ef_lens_lineup/ef_24_70mm_f_4l_is_usm#Overview

As expected it is much better than the 24-105 at the wide end, but still the very corners at 24mm don't look quite as promising as the new 24-70 f2.8II. There is also no mention of distortion at the wide end and that is anyone's guess at this point. Chances are that the price will come down a bit for those willing to wait a bit and it likely will show up with rebates too eventually. I think I'd like this lens, but I will definitely wait to hear real world reports and reviews before preordering one.

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Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS & EF 35 f/2 IS Preorders
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2012, 11:44:43 PM »
Think I'll wait for photozone.de to review the 24-70/4L IS before passing judgement on it.

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« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2012, 11:47:34 PM »
6D + 24-70 f4 IS = good combo for crop shooters to jump into FF world with low budget.

Thats $3600! I can't say that its a low budget camera+lens combo.

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Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS & EF 35 f/2 IS Preorders
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2012, 11:48:02 PM »
Huh... I was expecting a much lower price for the 24-70.  I can safely assume this effectively kills the 24-70mm f/4 as any sort of kit lens.
Why, its only a few hundred more than the retail of the 24-105. I actually can't see the logic of having both this and the 24-105 at the same time, so, I'd imagine this will be the kit lens of the future as well.

Yeah, well I don't see the logic behind this lens period.  There are MANY other lenses canon should have addressed before this one.  The lens itself doesn't make much sense, so I suppose the price shouldn't either.
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« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2012, 11:51:15 PM »
I'm baffled by the price. But then I guess Canon will make this the replacement for the 24-105. There is no sense that they will co-exist - I think.

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« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2012, 11:52:04 PM »
6D + 24-70 f4 IS = good combo for crop shooters to jump into FF world with low budget.

Thats $3600! I can't say that its a low budget camera+lens combo.

It just $100 more than my 5D III, no lens
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« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2012, 11:53:36 PM »
6D + 24-70 f4 IS = good combo for crop shooters to jump into FF world with low budget.

Thats $3600! I can't say that its a low budget camera+lens combo.

Exactly! This new generation of full-frame bodies isn't living up to the hype of "full-frame for the masses" whatsoever. Either a 6D or a D600 with any sort of a zoom is going to push $3k+ and that isn't exactly pennies for anyone I know, nor is it any more affordable than the current prices of previous-generation equipment. I'm sure most people who bought a 5DII recently are very happy with their purchase in light of the 6D, as am I with my D700.

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« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2012, 11:54:50 PM »
Canon USA has the MTF charts up on their site :

http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/ef_lens_lineup/ef_24_70mm_f_4l_is_usm#Overview

As expected it is much better than the 24-105 at the wide end, but still the very corners at 24mm don't look quite as promising as the new 24-70 f2.8II. There is also no mention of distortion at the wide end and that is anyone's guess at this point. Chances are that the price will come down a bit for those willing to wait a bit and it likely will show up with rebates too eventually. I think I'd like this lens, but I will definitely wait to hear real world reports and reviews before preordering one.

My guess...this lens will have similar distortion and vignetting at 24mm, same as my 24-70 f2.8 II.
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Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS & EF 35 f/2 IS Preorders
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2012, 12:03:46 AM »
Nothing will ever beat the 24-105's price for entry into the L-lens club.

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« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2012, 12:19:49 AM »
At that price I guess I'm going to have to resort to jerry-rigging my EF-S 17-55 IS f2.8 so it fits on a 6D and do without the corners for a couple years.
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Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS & EF 35 f/2 IS Preorders
« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2012, 12:33:46 AM »
Guess I'll have to wait and see the MTF and reviews on this one. The hybrid IS is nice, as is the near 1:1 macro, but for $1500 it'll have to improve both resolution and distortion over the 24-105 to sell well.

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Exactly! My 5DIII has taught me that bumping ISO a stop is no longer an IQ sacrifice - so I would look seriously at an f/4 IF it is SHARP!
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« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2012, 12:52:58 AM »
Guess I'll have to wait and see the MTF and reviews on this one. The hybrid IS is nice, as is the near 1:1 macro, but for $1500 it'll have to improve both resolution and distortion over the 24-105 to sell well.

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Exactly! My 5DIII has taught me that bumping ISO a stop is no longer an IQ sacrifice - so I would look seriously at an f/4 IF it is SHARP!

Based on the MTF chart, this lens will not win over 2.8 II in term of sharpness.

When compared to 105, yes...it's way better
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« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2012, 12:57:36 AM »
6D + 24-70 f4 IS = good combo for crop shooters to jump into FF world with low budget.

Thats $3600! I can't say that its a low budget camera+lens combo.
This... Thats not low budget at all, especially when Nikon is offering a Camera Kit that is very competitive for around $2500 dollars(or less.) I'd say the 24-70 should be better than the Nikon 24-85, but the D600 has better specs than the 6D....and the Nikon kit is $1000 dollars less than Canon!
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Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS & EF 35 f/2 IS Preorders
« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2012, 01:22:25 AM »
When I read the rumours a few days ago, I was very 'meh' about the whole idea of a 24-70 f/4 replacing a 24-105 f/4. And I was one of those thinking that it has to be less than the $1150 24-105 or it'd be DOA. (I was also one who thought the 6D must be less than 5D2 or it'd be DOA, but see how well that turned out)

But then I read about the 0.7x MM, and the 4-stop Hybrid IS, and I was definitely thinking "this may well be my kit-zoom if I ever move to FF" (if indeed I ever have a kit-zoom for it, i'm a Prime kinda guy right now).

But then I saw the $1500 price, and was back to 'meh'.


Still, for others it may well be a very good choice, and a very good pairing to a 6D (although I still don't see why you'd buy a 6D over a 5D2). Especially given the 'rebelisation' of the 6D, most people 'moving up' from a rebel / xxxD / xxD (who probably only got their rebel as moving up from a P&S) will obviously need a new lens. And they're also probably the kinds of people who would be more impressed by a 'do-it-all' lens, being able to do decent macros without buying a dedicated macro lens is going to save you $500 or $1000 already. (hell, even I remember my first P&S, I was impressed by the 1cm-macro).
(Also please don't write stuff like "but i'm a rebel user and I want a 6D but i'm not buying this lens because...". You're not. If you're reading this then by definition you're the 1% of gearheads, not the 99% of consumers to whom this is targeted).

As for the price, well yeah. $3500 (probably closer to $3000 in a kit, don't forget a 5D2+24-105 kit was only $600 more than the body-only) is not exactly 'FF For the masses'. But canon's definitely not going back to non-L for FF zooms, probably ever, the 28-135 is probably last of its kind. They'll be more expensive than nikon surely, but they'll really have to make sure the salesmen sell the advantages of Good-Glass(tm) over Better-Sensor.
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Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS & EF 35 f/2 IS Preorders
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