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6d Kit Lens
« on: November 06, 2012, 08:12:02 PM »
Hey ya'llll

Was anyone else surprised this morning when you saw the price for the 24-70mm f4. (I was expecting a 800-1000, not 1499)

I also heard there was a chance that it may be the new kit lens for the 6d. Any chance that it still might? Or will they keep the 24-105? I'm assuming because of the price they will.

Otherwise you're saving 600 on the lens when you buy the 6d. Unless they up the kit lens price.

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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2012, 09:11:37 PM »
I think they will drop the price to 800-1000 if you buy it with the 6d, I think it will be a $3,000 kit. They are giving the $1,499 price for the lens alone to promote the 6d, because amateurs either want a 6d or a 24-70. So, they promote a "steal" getting people to buy the 6d and the 24-70 f4 is together, the 24-105 will remain the walk around king, but they want to give ameutures a 24-70 option, so it is a true junior kit.

6d + 17-40 (or whatever replaces it, maybe a 12-24 f4?) + 24-70 f4 is + 70-200 f4 is (mark ii)???)

Canon is just trying to market both product with a kit. People who want a entry level ff want a 5d ii, and those who want a 24-70, want a 24-70 2.8 1. So canon wants to kill two birds with one stone, by getting people to buy the 6d, and a 24-70 f4 is which is as sharp as the 2.8 ii.

They want to sell the 6d and 24-70 f4 for the equivalent of a 5d mark ii and a 24-70 2.8 1 for the same price, and trick people into thinking its a steal, because if you want to buy one, you might as well buy the other.

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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2012, 09:14:07 PM »
$3000 for the kit while logical and sensible is also complete wishful thinking in light of all recent price announcements from canon except for the pancake being $200
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Re: 6d Kid Lens
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2012, 09:18:51 PM »
It might end up being a kit lens, they knock off 200 or 300 if bought with a body.  The 24-105mm L is a better kit lens imho.

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Re: 6d Kid Lens
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2012, 11:56:56 PM »
It might end up being a kit lens, they knock off 200 or 300 if bought with a body.  The 24-105mm L is a better kit lens imho.

I think 24-105L being a better kit will entirely be dependent on 24-70 performance.  For most people, they would want to get the macro capability of 24-70, food, flower, insect photography which is something you'll always encounter during travels 6D being marketed as a "travel" camera.

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Re: 6d Kid Lens
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2012, 08:51:34 PM »
It might end up being a kit lens, they knock off 200 or 300 if bought with a body.  The 24-105mm L is a better kit lens imho.

I think 24-105L being a better kit will entirely be dependent on 24-70 performance.  For most people, they would want to get the macro capability of 24-70, food, flower, insect photography which is something you'll always encounter during travels 6D being marketed as a "travel" camera.
I think you have that entirely correct, with the exception of the fact that people then may have to carry along a 70-200/300

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Re: 6d Kid Lens
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2012, 10:52:59 PM »
Here in Calgary, a very reputable store is listing the 6D effectively with 3 choices
1 - Body Only     > $2,099 (pretty much the same as BH price)
2 - 24-104 Kit    > $2,899 (also in line with BH prices)
3 - 24-70 F4 Kit > $3,299
https://www.thecamerastore.com/mainproducts/canon-eos-6d

Now in Canada, higher end bodies are getting to par with the US - finally, however lenses still have a (unexplained?) premium.

So the same store lists the
24 - 104  @ $1,368 = $568 discount to Canadian lens prices (BH price = $1,149)
24 - 70    @ $1,587 = $387 discount to Canadian lens prices (BH price = $1,499)

So the kit is $400 more for a lens that is only $220 more when bought individually.  Thus, although this is an indication, it is difficult to understand pricing strategies and how they will translate between countries.
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Re: 6d Kid Lens
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« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2012, 12:14:32 AM »
Maybe that's the plan.  Overprice the new f/4 lens.  Then offer it at half price if you buy the new budget full frame 6D.  So their initial sales on the body seem very high.  And they actually move a lot of those overpriced f/4 lenses too.  And people will buy the kits and break them up and sell the lenses individually cheap, so maybe that is how to go about getting one.  Kind of a twisted "win-win" scenario?
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Re: 6d Kid Lens
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2012, 11:56:16 AM »
The 24-70 could be a supply and demand trick for the 24-105, they may just not produce a lot of 24-70 f4, because more people would go for the 24-10, and the prices should then even out, people would have to choose.

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Re: 6d Kid Lens
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2012, 10:46:16 PM »
If the same thing happens with the 6D that did to the 5D3 it'll be $1200 in 6 months.
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Re: 6d Kid Lens
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2012, 10:46:16 PM »