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Re: Convince me to shoot in RAW
« Reply #135 on: November 12, 2012, 07:09:46 AM »

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Re: Convince me to shoot in RAW
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Re: Convince me to shoot in RAW
« Reply #136 on: November 12, 2012, 08:35:36 AM »
This thread is silly.
If you need to be "convinced"...you just don't get it.
Raw = Serious
Jpeg = Not Serious
End of discussion............
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Re: Convince me to shoot in RAW
« Reply #137 on: November 12, 2012, 09:11:46 AM »
This thread is silly.
+100 on that statement!

If you need to be "convinced"...you just don't get it.
Raw = Serious
Jpeg = Not Serious
End of discussion............
Then again we should not oversimplify matters. There are valid reasons to shoot JPEG sometimes, so it is not all bad. I would not qualify it generally as not being serious. I would like to rephrase this in the following way:
RAW = Shooting slow or with the option of making the most of every shot you take
JPEG = Shooting lots of stuff you have to process fast and you don't want to pp on it.

End of discussion: Not likely...

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Re: Convince me to shoot in RAW
« Reply #138 on: November 12, 2012, 09:32:10 AM »
This thread is silly.
+100 on that statement!

If you need to be "convinced"...you just don't get it.
Raw = Serious
Jpeg = Not Serious
End of discussion............
Then again we should not oversimplify matters. There are valid reasons to shoot JPEG sometimes, so it is not all bad. I would not qualify it generally as not being serious. I would like to rephrase this in the following way:
RAW = Shooting slow or with the option of making the most of every shot you take
JPEG = Shooting lots of stuff you have to process fast and you don't want to pp on it.

End of discussion: Not likely...

OK...I will agree:

Jpegs for junk photography.
Raw for keepers.
Still slices the same way that I stated above, no?
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Re: Convince me to shoot in RAW
« Reply #139 on: November 12, 2012, 09:32:17 AM »
Distinct lack of examples to back up peoples words...

An example for you:

Straight Out of Camera: http://alipaul.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/SOOC.png

Edited Jpg: http://alipaul.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/jpg1.png

Edited RAW: http://alipaul.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/RAW.png

Exactly the same editing tweaks done. RAW you don't have to worry as much about exposure or white balance.
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Re: Convince me to shoot in RAW
« Reply #140 on: November 12, 2012, 09:39:20 AM »
This thread is silly.
If you need to be "convinced"...you just don't get it.
Raw = Serious
Jpeg = Not Serious
End of discussion............

The progression is more like this
JPEG for someone starting out wanting to get serious
RAW+JPEG for someone who just started out that has gotten serious.
RAW for someone who started not long ago and knows everything there is to know (by their own admission) and is serious.
RAW or/ JPEG for someone with a little more skill who knows when each should be and can be used and uses the one most advantagous for their situation.

Becuase the discussion ended there are those that may be stuck at RAW only and never move foward in their photography.
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Re: Convince me to shoot in RAW
« Reply #141 on: November 12, 2012, 09:47:55 AM »
OK...I will agree:

Jpegs for junk photography.
Raw for keepers.
Still slices the same way that I stated above, no?

I'll bet all those journalistic, news togs and paps just love you.

To my knowledge they all/ mostly shoot in jpg because it's quicker and a more compact file size to send over to editors for the time conscious story. Such time sensitive material can not sit around waiting for the tog to get home and do a bit of processing - on top of which there is much issue with making sure images presented have not been manipulated and processed.

In truth, RAW and jpg both have their places in photography, and it's not about experience or kit being used.
It's about preference of the tog, convenience for image management and suitably for the type of shot being captured.

I always shoot RAW now - but the X-Pro 1 captures images in RAW and one of its many flavours of film emulated jpg modes, which of course is what that camera is so liked for!

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Re: Convince me to shoot in RAW
« Reply #141 on: November 12, 2012, 09:47:55 AM »

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Re: Convince me to shoot in RAW
« Reply #142 on: November 12, 2012, 09:51:45 AM »
For me:

RAW for everything except high speed action.  The reason is two-fold:

1.  When you are machine gunning you really will fill your cards / computer quickly wit RAW.
2.  Buffer size greatly increases with jpeg

To accomplish this,  I actually have my "fast action" custom mode set to jpeg...

Other than that... There are no other valid reasons to shoot jpeg (for me).



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Re: Convince me to shoot in RAW
« Reply #143 on: November 12, 2012, 10:09:46 AM »
How about this way then

RAW for men
JPEG for boys


(please note joke) :D

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Re: Convince me to shoot in RAW
« Reply #144 on: November 12, 2012, 10:10:33 AM »
How about this way then

RAW for men
JEPG for boys


(please note joke) :D

What do women and girls shoot then?

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Re: Convince me to shoot in RAW
« Reply #145 on: November 12, 2012, 10:14:44 AM »
How about this way then

RAW for men
JEPG for boys


(please note joke) :D

What do women and girls shoot then?


Well that's another story ;D

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Re: Convince me to shoot in RAW
« Reply #146 on: November 12, 2012, 12:45:39 PM »
I suppose the guy at Sports Illustrated shooting JPG because the photos need to go to website live is shooting junk.  You shoot in RAW for one set of circumstances and shoot in JPG for another and neither has to do with quality/junk photography.  That is a gross misinterpretation of their uses.  I've had to shoot JPG at sports before and of course I've shot RAW at sports before.  To say one is better than the other in all situations is assanine. 

Personally I shoot RAW because I like to have it.  Yes I've shot sports before and racked up 500 RAW files.  I simply picked the best 50-70 and deleted the rest.  It wasn't that hard.  And no I don't use RAW as a crutch, I use it because I can and it's available to me.  It's called technology.
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Re: Convince me to shoot in RAW
« Reply #147 on: November 12, 2012, 01:07:02 PM »
I suppose the guy at Sports Illustrated shooting JPG because the photos need to go to website live is shooting junk.  You shoot in RAW for one set of circumstances and shoot in JPG for another and neither has to do with quality/junk photography.  That is a gross misinterpretation of their uses.  I've had to shoot JPG at sports before and of course I've shot RAW at sports before.  To say one is better than the other in all situations is assanine. 

Personally I shoot RAW because I like to have it.  Yes I've shot sports before and racked up 500 RAW files.  I simply picked the best 50-70 and deleted the rest.  It wasn't that hard.  And no I don't use RAW as a crutch, I use it because I can and it's available to me.  It's called technology.

To My knowledge, Sport illustrated Photogs shoot RAW because they will crop the crap out of the pictures later.

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Re: Convince me to shoot in RAW
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Re: Convince me to shoot in RAW
« Reply #148 on: November 12, 2012, 04:03:02 PM »
Shoot in RAW. 

If you don't, no one will ever love you, and your doggy will die.

Convinced?

I have a dog. I don't want him to die.
Thanks for convincing me!

To anyone else here to answer my question and not add wood to the fire, It didn't take me long to see the benefits of RAW. For some reason I thought shooting in RAW would add an extra step to my workflow. Using Lightroom, it doesn't, save for slightly longer processing times, which is more than worth it for the results I'm seeing.

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Re: Convince me to shoot in RAW
« Reply #149 on: November 12, 2012, 04:36:30 PM »
Convince me to shoot in RAW

So that you can wear Jared Polin's "I shoot RAW" T-Shirts.
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Re: Convince me to shoot in RAW
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